[jolly]

RIGHT, THE THIRD WAY, HOW ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT RUNS 4 ESSENCIAL SERVICES, WATER, ELECTRIC, GAS, TRANSPORT. BUT RUNS THEM AS A PRIVATE COMPANY DOES. AND THEREFORE MAKES A PROFIT. HAVE FOUR DEPARTMENTS IN EACH GROUP SO THAT THEY COMPETE. THIS MONEY WOULD REPLACE TAXATION, NOT COMPLETLY AS THE NHS WOULD STILL BE FUNDED AS NOW, AS WOULD THE POLICE,BIN MEN ETC. PAYE WOULD BE REDUCED. SO YOU DO, AS A PRIVATE COMPANY DOES SET TARGETS, PAY BONUSES, GIVE A GOOD BUT NOT GREAT WAGE, SACK PEOPLE WHO DO NOT PERFORM, AND SO ON, THE MONEY GOS TO THE TRESUREY. THAT MONEY CAN REPLACE PAYE, THEREFORE THE GOVERNMENT STILL MAKES A LOT OF MONEY, WE STILL PAY SOME BUT A LOT LESS TAX, AND THE NHS WORKS MORE EFFECTIVELY. AS YOU WOULD RUN THE NHS IN A SIMLIER WAY, AFTERALL IF THE NHS DID GO PRIVATE, WHAT WOULD THAT COMPANY DO IF IT TOOK OVER? BUT ANY MONEY THE GOVERNMENT MADE FROM THE NHS SHOULD GO BACK TO IT I THINK. WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK? OBVIOUSLY EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD SAY PRIVATE, AND ONLY THE PEOPLE WHO USED PUBLIC TRANSPORT WOULD PAY TOWARDS IT, BUT I THINK ALL WOULD BE SLIGHTLY CHEAPER THAN THEY ARE NOW. AND ALSO IT WOULD BE MORE DEMOCRATIC AS THERE WOULD BE MORE GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT. SO IT WOULD KIND OF BE LIKE A MINI SOCIALIST FREE MARKET INSIDE A BIGGER CAPITALIST FREE MARKET. SURVIVAL OF THE FITEST EACH DEPARTMENT WOULD ONLY GET THE MONEY IT COULD MAKE WITH IN THE MINI MARKET, AS A COMPANY DOES. I THINK THATS A BETTER THRID WAY. THE GOVERNMENT GIVES NO MONEY TO THESE DEPARTMENTS THEY MAKE THERE OWN, AND THE PROFITS GO TO THE TRESUREY. THE GOVERNMENT/TREASURY DOES THE BOOKS.  

[paul.fr]

Caps lock...the NHS will never run 'effectively' with so many targets, top heavy management and over priced useless i.t. systems. To mention but a few.

[daveshorts]

I think that you have a slighly interesting concept of how much money the government takes in tax versus how much water/electricity etc costs, also this is definitely not science, hence is going to Just Chat

[jolly]

NO THE NHS WOULD BE RUN SIMILER TO NOW STILL FREE AT THE POINT OF USE AND PAID FOR THROUGH TAXATION.

[jolly]

Death to targets and negative-positive freedom. Berlin is totally wrong with his assessment of society. And the reasons why, people rise up against oppression. Berlin is totally incorrect in my oppinion. He's done an einstien. A theory of everything for society and messed it all up. You combine that with just the hawk side of game thoery, and you get the free market controlling everything- Todays world- what a tragedy. All based on lies and stupid ideas. What have we come to?