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Complementary Medicine / Re: Usefulness of Glyconutrients
« on: 23/09/2006 02:17:06 »
OK I have just had a my doctor investigate Glyconutrients and suggest Mannatech. I am a big skeptic but I will take a look into anything.
Right now I am more skeptical of modern medicine's relationship with drug companies and the failure of our legal system and the FDA to make drugs safe and effective. My personal belief is that the FDA is bought by the drug companies and our litigious court system has created such a paranoid environment that drug companies couldn't fully disclose all they know about their meds if they wanted to without the legal repercussions. At any rate it is a mess.
On to my personal experience... I have ADHD and GAD. I was prescribed EffexorXR until I couldnt handle the side effects so I tried to slowly wean off. Instead I got every withdrawl effect in the book. Dizziness, confusion, depression, aggressiveness, edema, joint pain, connective tissue pain, electric jolts in the brain and legs, sweating, etc. They dont disclose any of this in the PIs. I was prescribed Cymbalta and my withdrawl symptoms went away immediately. Problem is Cymbalta has worse side effects than Effexor. I gained 25-30lbs in 6 mos PLUS all the bad stuff I had with Effexor. SO now I have had enough and I dont want to take anything anymore. So I sloooooowly got off Cybalta. Taking it slow did nothing but delay the withdrawls. Now I have terrible edema, confusion, dizziness, anger issues, and difficulty focusing on anything for more than a minute, plust I will talk your ear off if you let me. Just look how long this post is.
So the weight gain caused back pain, the edema causes leg pain, and nobody can stand to be around me anymore.
My doctor suggested this Mannatech program even though it is expensive. My problem is with all the bad press this company is getting.
Now here is what I find odd about the complaints... They are only from people who seem to have never participated or they are from people who took them for a few weeks and quit.
I cannot google and find any stories of the person who took these supplements for 6 months or more and are complaining about getting ripped off. I have googled "Glyconutrients did nothing for me" "glyconutrients did not work" and a few variations and cannot find any horror stories. I cannot believe this is a placebo for anybody who tries it. Any google any infomercial and you will find horries galore.
I am going to try these things and give them 8 months to show results. That is unless anybody can show me where I am wrong. BTW, I dont care about the lack of scientific data. I dont care about the claims about how it works being false. If mannatech called the stuff Pixie Dust and it worked and the mechanism was PFM (Pure F'ing Magic) then I wouldnt care so dont bother telling me about the BS. If it helps me then I dont care why.
Why does the drug company get away with not knowing why side effect occur?
Does it work? Who has it not worked for?
As far as making my own, I will try the manatech stuff and piss away $800 and then try to make my own if I feel like it.
Well thats my story. Feel free to reply with your thoughts
Right now I am more skeptical of modern medicine's relationship with drug companies and the failure of our legal system and the FDA to make drugs safe and effective. My personal belief is that the FDA is bought by the drug companies and our litigious court system has created such a paranoid environment that drug companies couldn't fully disclose all they know about their meds if they wanted to without the legal repercussions. At any rate it is a mess.
On to my personal experience... I have ADHD and GAD. I was prescribed EffexorXR until I couldnt handle the side effects so I tried to slowly wean off. Instead I got every withdrawl effect in the book. Dizziness, confusion, depression, aggressiveness, edema, joint pain, connective tissue pain, electric jolts in the brain and legs, sweating, etc. They dont disclose any of this in the PIs. I was prescribed Cymbalta and my withdrawl symptoms went away immediately. Problem is Cymbalta has worse side effects than Effexor. I gained 25-30lbs in 6 mos PLUS all the bad stuff I had with Effexor. SO now I have had enough and I dont want to take anything anymore. So I sloooooowly got off Cybalta. Taking it slow did nothing but delay the withdrawls. Now I have terrible edema, confusion, dizziness, anger issues, and difficulty focusing on anything for more than a minute, plust I will talk your ear off if you let me. Just look how long this post is.
So the weight gain caused back pain, the edema causes leg pain, and nobody can stand to be around me anymore.
My doctor suggested this Mannatech program even though it is expensive. My problem is with all the bad press this company is getting.
Now here is what I find odd about the complaints... They are only from people who seem to have never participated or they are from people who took them for a few weeks and quit.
I cannot google and find any stories of the person who took these supplements for 6 months or more and are complaining about getting ripped off. I have googled "Glyconutrients did nothing for me" "glyconutrients did not work" and a few variations and cannot find any horror stories. I cannot believe this is a placebo for anybody who tries it. Any google any infomercial and you will find horries galore.
I am going to try these things and give them 8 months to show results. That is unless anybody can show me where I am wrong. BTW, I dont care about the lack of scientific data. I dont care about the claims about how it works being false. If mannatech called the stuff Pixie Dust and it worked and the mechanism was PFM (Pure F'ing Magic) then I wouldnt care so dont bother telling me about the BS. If it helps me then I dont care why.
Why does the drug company get away with not knowing why side effect occur?
Does it work? Who has it not worked for?
As far as making my own, I will try the manatech stuff and piss away $800 and then try to make my own if I feel like it.
Well thats my story. Feel free to reply with your thoughts