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Physics, Astronomy & Cosmology / Does anyone understand Roger Penose's view of cyclic universe?
« on: 03/01/2023 02:38:36 »
You can pick this up on almost any youtube clip if you search his name and view of universe or whatever.
His general view appears to be that there was a universe before ours. Then one before that. Then one before that. Not a "multiverse", with bubble universes going on all over the place, all at different times and the same time both, but just one after the other. So far, so good, I can at least understand that.
But when he goes into more detail about his theory, he loses me. He basically said our universe started out of the old one, which (according to him, but which I've heard others have said) will have in the far far future little or no mass left (he kind of hems on this point), and that when there is little or (presumably) no math left, time stops, because matter is a wave and you need waves to keep time, and when that happens the universe somehow goes from huge and with no matter anywhere to what we see as the big bang. He claims that you don't need inflation in his model - indeed what we think of as inflation happens naturally in the "old" universe. Something like that.
I can't even picture it. On the time thing, if there is no mass, there are still photons/energy, which so far as I can tell have wave like properties, at least as much as mass, so why would time stop if there was no mass in the universe? On the more general point about some huge, cold, no mass having universe somehow transitioning to one that is incredibly hot, expanding, etc. etc., he does not explain that, and I do not understand it.
Does anyone understand his proposal?
Thanks!
His general view appears to be that there was a universe before ours. Then one before that. Then one before that. Not a "multiverse", with bubble universes going on all over the place, all at different times and the same time both, but just one after the other. So far, so good, I can at least understand that.
But when he goes into more detail about his theory, he loses me. He basically said our universe started out of the old one, which (according to him, but which I've heard others have said) will have in the far far future little or no mass left (he kind of hems on this point), and that when there is little or (presumably) no math left, time stops, because matter is a wave and you need waves to keep time, and when that happens the universe somehow goes from huge and with no matter anywhere to what we see as the big bang. He claims that you don't need inflation in his model - indeed what we think of as inflation happens naturally in the "old" universe. Something like that.
I can't even picture it. On the time thing, if there is no mass, there are still photons/energy, which so far as I can tell have wave like properties, at least as much as mass, so why would time stop if there was no mass in the universe? On the more general point about some huge, cold, no mass having universe somehow transitioning to one that is incredibly hot, expanding, etc. etc., he does not explain that, and I do not understand it.
Does anyone understand his proposal?
Thanks!