[jolly]

What is the first law of Universe ?
=========  
The Physics is first of all Vacuum.
Vacuum is :T=0K.
Once upon a time, 20 billions of years ago, all matter
 (all elementary particles and all quarks and
their girlfriends- antiparticles and antiquarks,
all kinds of waves: electromagnetic, gravitational,
 muons… gluons field ….. etc.) – was assembled in a “single point”.    
It is interesting to think about what had surrounded the “single point”.
The answer is :
 EMPTINESS- NOTHING….!!!
 Ok!
But why does everyone speak about EMPTINESS- NOTHING in
 common phrases rather than in specific, concrete terms?
 I wonder why nobody has written down this EMPTINESS- NOTHING in
the form of a physical formula ? You see, every schoolboy knows that
 is possible to express the EMPTINESS- NOTHING condition
by the formula  T=0K.

Well enery cannot be destroyed so all the energy in the universe has to of come from some where!
Hume stated: "any supposition which can be formed is equally possible....was it nothing? but that could never produce anything".
With the 11 dimemsions and the multi-verse theory, two universes hitting would create the BIG BANG and explain where all the energy in our universe came from!

        What is the second law of Universe ?

 To answer of this question we must ask:
 " What geometrical and physical parameters
have  the particles in Vacuum T=0K? "
a).
The Classical physics says, that when we reach
the temperature T=0K all moving of particles
 stops, and the Energy of this space is equal to zero.
 It means that the space T=0K is died one.
Therefore it is impossible something to say about T=0K.
b)
But Quantum physics says that the Energy of this space
 is not equal to zero. Quantum physics says that in T=0K
 “ virtual” particles exist. Why does nobody recognize the
geometrical and physical parameters of “ virtual” particles?
For example: “ Can they have volume?”
No.
Because according to  J. Charles law ( 1787),
when the temperature falls down on 1 degree
the volume decreases on 1/273. And when the
 temperature reaches -273 degree the volume
disappears. The particles become flat figures.
From them the most optimal is circle: C/D=pi.
c)
According to SRT quantum of light flies
with speed c = 1. And in this moving it cannot
have volume. It means that quantum of light
has a geometrical form of circle: C/D = 3,14….
d)
A quantum of light is a privileged particle.
Only a light quantum has  the absolute speed: c=1.
No other particle can travel with the speed: c = 1.
Other particle can travel only with the speed: s=d/t.
And I was taught at school from the first class:
that the incommensurable quantities cannot be compared.
To connect  incommensurable quantities it
 is similar to the decision of a problem:
"What will be if the whale will attacks the elephant?"
========
If quantum of light flies always only rectilinearly
with speed c=1, it is a mad one.
No.
 Quantum of light have  two kinds of spins ,
as a result of which the particle attains motion.

Yeah absolutly the question really is do they know why?

1)
Under the action of  Planck,s spin (impulse),
which is equal to the unit ( h =1)
a quantum of light flies rectilinearly with speed (c = 1).
The geometrical form of a circle: (C/D = 3,14).
A quantum of light behaves as a particle.
2)
 Under the action of Goudsmit-Uhlenbeck's spin ,
( h = h / 2pi)  a quantum of light rotates around of its diameter
with the speed more of light quanta : c>1
 and is known as electron.
The geometrical form of a circle is transformed into a sphere.
This kind of movement is described by Lorentz's  transformations .
In this action the wave properties of light quantum are shown.
The dualism of a particle becomes clear.
 The paradox of dualism disappears completely.
===================

Well with regards to the speed of light being c-1, we really dont know the actual speed of light! As everytime we test it we get a different figure- because our methods of testing it affect the results!

Vacuum , “ideal gas “and particles.
===========================
To solve some difficult problem the physicists
 create a simple abstract model.
Beginning from this simple model they learned
to solve practical and difficult tasks.
In that time it was the right way to solve that problem.
 Take, for example, the theory of “ideal gas “.
The " ideal gas " represents one theoretical model of gas
and the physicists say it does not exist in nature.
It was found, that properties of real gases are very close 
to “ideal gas”. The result “ very close “ was quite satisfied
for physicists. But from time of creation the theory of
" ideal gas " about 100 years have passed and the
quantum theory  was created. And from the quantum theory
 we know that to use the expression "very close" it is impossible.
Why?
Because very small (insignificant) changes in the microworld
is a cause of radical transformation in system.
We must be very cautious, using words
"very close …, almost equally”.
=========…

Yes it is clearly the case that anything will affect that enviroment!

I offer to consider model "ideal gas" as real model of the vacuum.
Why?
Because the temperature of " ideal gas " is equal to -273 degrees.
And temperature of pure vacuum is the same.
Now it is considered that the Universe,
as an absolute frame of reference is  in a condition of  T = 2,7K
  (rests of relic radiation of the Big Bang ).
 But, the relic radiation is extended and in the future will change
and decrease down to Т=0К, isn’t it?
Now everyone knows, that absolute temperature T=0K
cannot be reached. But is it enough reason to think
that space T=0K doesn't exist?
If Columbus did not discover America,
there was not America, was it?
We have all theoretical and logical rights to investigate
the vacuum T=0K.
 ========== 

In reference to what you believe: 'How do you study Nothing?'

Einstein said,
"… we have not proven that the Aether does not exist, we
have merely proven that we do not need it (for computations)"
It is correct.
Vacuum does not have influence on behaviour of particles.
Therefore we will say nothing about vacuum.
But...
What is it possible to say about particles in vacuum?
1.
The first question: “ Can they have volume?”
No.
Because according to  J. Charles law ( 1787),
when the temperature falls down on 1 degree
the volume decreases on 1/273. And when the
 temperature reaches -273 degree the volume
disappears. The physicists say, if the particle
 has completely lost its volume then:
a)
the substance, matter disappears
b)
the physical parameters of particles becomes infinite.
But such statement  contradicts the
"Law of conservation and transformation energy".
And then we must understand what the sense of the
"Law of conservation and transformation energy" is,
we should understand and accept that
when volume of the particles disappear
 they become  "indefinitely flat figures ".
What do "indefinitely flat figures " mean?
They mean, that we cannot reach Absolute Vacuum T=0K
and we also cannot reach density of the particle in the T=0K.

I would argue that really when creating a vaccum you remove so much that the particals left expand to fill the space- as you cannot have a space with T=OK.

The “ Charles law” was confirmed by other physicists:
Gay-Lussac ( 1802), W. Nernst ( 1910), A. Einstein ( 1925) .
These "indefinitely flat figures " have the geometrical form
of a circle,  as from all flat figures  the circle has the most
optimal form:  C/D=pi= 3,14.
P.S.
We can see the same situation in quantum theory too,
when electron interacts with vacuum, its physical parameters
 become infinite. We see the “relay race” of misunderstanding
 in the physics, which goes from one  generation to another one,
only because at the beginning the " ideal gas " wasn’t understood.
2.
Let us take some area of Vacuum and mark it with letter R.
The number of particles in this area we will mark with letter N.
Then every particle of this area has gravity/ mass of rest: R/N= k.

Right because you can count them acurately? I take it!

3.
Classic physics asserts, that in a Vacuum T=0K the motion
 of particles stops, and the energy of Vacuum is equal to zero.
The quantum physics asserts, that in a Vacuum T=0K there is
 motion of particles, and the energy of Vacuum is not zero.
Therefore, let us take some energy area of Vacuum and
mark it with letter E.
The mass of this energy area of Vacuum we will
 mark with letter M.
Then every particle of this area has energy/mass of rest:
 E/M= c^2,  ( E=Mc^2,  M=Ec^2.)

Thats rediculas as all atoms and particals have some form of energy, you maybe reading the reality that as they fill the gap created by the vaccum- it becomes harder to read there energy content! 

4.
As these particles are in the state of rest condition
 their impulse is equal to zero ( h=0).
5.
Mathematical point.
In mathematics, such condition of the particles in Vacuum
 is characterized with the imaginary quantity : i^2 = -1.
============================== 
Now we have the whole bouquet of formulas to begin
to paint the picture of creating the Existence.
P.S.
The quantum physics approves that “virtual particles”
 exist in Vacuum
Astrophysics approve that “ latent mass, invisible
particles, dark matter ”  exist  in Vacuum.
Everything was created from them.
But nobody knows what they are.
Now maybe somebody will understand these
“virtual,  invisible, latent particles”.
=====================

If they exsist at all! The fact that they are invisable could suggest that they dont exist- and this is all just speculation! At such distance without actually being in the area how can you say whats there?
It could just be filled with lots of different paticals, until we actually go look properly how can you know?
What you are engaged in here is- oh there a gap well whats in it? probably the same stuff inbetween jupiter and the earth- whatever!
Dont forget your eyes use light to see! some things do not reflect light, some light pases through and over times it bounces off in another direction!

We have many kinds of dimension spaces: 3D, 4D and etc.
Is it hard to see the three dimension. . .
No.
1.
 There are an independent space and independent time:
We notice it on our planet - Earth. It is a 3D space.
The space (Newtonian) around us is 3D,
 and our eyes  allow us to see this 3D.
If we take Descartes coordinates plus time,
when it is possible to say:
4D = 3D space + 1D time.
We live in this 4D and are aware of it.
 2.
Is it  hard to see the fourth dimension. . .
No.
There is simultaneous union of space and time
(negative four-dimensional / Minkowski / space).
Herman Minkowski :
" Henceforth, space by itself, and time by itself,
are doomed to fade away into mere shadows,
 and only a kind of union of the two will preserve an independent
reality."

Here your getting into worm holes etc but ive already posted that I believe there are 11.

Question.
What  is the "a kind of union of the two "?
The answer.
It is Vacuum. T=0K.
It is the “empty” space between milliards of billions Galaxies.
=====================.

ANYWAY...

Why we say :
" that it is impossible to see the fourth dimension.. ."
Maybe because: we are in a "special kind of intelligence
 is variably called  schizophrenia. "
What is the reason of this illness?
The reason is hidden in abstract thinking about :
abstract ideal gas, abstract black body,
abstract inertial systems, abstract " virtual" particles,
abstract zoo of antiparticles, abstract 
Schrödinger’s cat in a dark matter ,
abstract  4D, 5D, 11D, 27D and etc......
And this abstract viewpoint the physicists try
to solve by Bohr principle of complementarity.
But "The Copenhagen interpretation of quantum theory
 starts from a paradox."
/Heisenberg, Physics and Philosophy, pg. 44./
========== 

I completely agree.lol

  Is there a medicine for this illness?
Of course.
On the one recipe is written " Vacuum: T=0K",
On the other recipe is written " Light quanta".
If we don’t take this medicine our human society
will remain in the state of "schizophrenia". Save us God.
=======================.

Have some faith little brother!

Max Planck. "Scientific Autobiography".
===============.
I have reread the Planck’s article "Scientific Autobiography".
It is a small article of 10 pages, but how honesty and modest,
wise and beautiful it is.
I cannot give a whole deep explanation of this article,
therefore  I will concentrate attention on a small part of it.
1.
In the beginning Planck wrote, that " From young years....
the search of the laws, concerning to something absolute,
 seemed to me the most wonderful task in scientist’s life."
And after some pages Planck wrote again, that
" the search for something absolute seemed to me the
most wonderful task for a researcher."
And after some pages Planck wrote again, that
“ the most wonderful scientific task for me was
 searching of something absolute."
2.
And as for the relation between “relativity and absolute”
Planck wrote, that the fact of "relativity assumes the
existence of something absolute" ;
 "the relativity  has sense when something absolute resists it.”
Planck wrote that the phrase " all is relative " misleads us,
 because  it is nonsense, because there is something
 absolute in SRT.
And the most attractive thing in SRT was for Planck
 “to find something absolute that was hidden in its foundation.”
3.
And than Planck explained what there is absolute
 in the physics:
a) The Law of conservation and transformation energy.
b)  The  negative 4D continuum.
c) The speed of light quanta.
d) The maximum entropy which is possible
       at temperature of absolute zero: T=0K.
4.
My conclusion.
Dear Planck, if you live now many scientists
will consider you are a crazy man.
Many of them will not give you a hand.
Many of them will laugh at you.
Why?
Because you were convinced in existing of something Absolute.
Because you searched for Absolute all your life long.
And now it is forbidden to think about Absolute .
Now the search for absolute laws and objects
 in Nature disappeared from the scientist’s brain.
Now the scientists say : " There isn't an absolute frame,
There isn't an absolute speed. There is nothing Absolute.
Everything is relativity. All is comparatively."
 You wrote:
"A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing
 its opponents  and making them see the light, but rather
because its opponents eventually die, and
 a new generation grows up that is familiar with it."
How pity it is.
I want to hope that this sentence isn’t absolutely correct. 
=====================.

To a degree, I agree with Max planck, science is very realitive to each scientist, but in a sense this is because of motivation- many scientist dont care about the truth- and just want fame or money, and so sacrifice the truth!
But there are laws which if written correctly would be absoulte- We today- sadly dont understand enought about anything to really do it properly-
but when you have men of science who spend all day ingnorantly defending their rubbish theories- what do you expect?
You see these 'scientist' dont really care about science, they are just thinking about themselves!

In responce to you actual question-What is the first Law of the universe- How about- ITS THERE!...lol




P.S- I think, I certainly deserve the biggest post award!lol

[jolly]

Another-someone... May I ask why you have moved this into new theories?
Because until I posted you were happy to leave it where it was- And by moving it you are bassically saying that Socratus is posting a new theory! Not me!
Afterall this is his forum not mine!

[socratus (OP)]

To jolly.
1.
Thank you for comments.
2.
Another-someone...
 May I ask why you have moved this into new theories?
=========
 this is his forum not mine!

[socratus (OP)]

About i^2= -1, pi=3,14…, e=2,71…
=============.
My question is :
Can "imaginary and transcendental quantities"
belong to a real particle?
1.
Take, for example, Dirac,s sea.
The particles in this sea are negative, virtual, imaginary.
2.
The Dirac,s sea is not warm place, but very cold one.
In this cold space there are own laws.
For example.
According to  J. Charles law ( 1787),
when the temperature falls down on 1 degree
the volume decreases on 1/273. And when the
 temperature reaches -273 degree the volume
disappears and  particles become  "flat figures ".
The " Charles law" was confirmed by other physicists:
Gay-Lussac, Planck, Nernst, Einstein .
These " flat figures " have the geometrical form of a circle,
 as from all flat figures  the circle has the most
optimal form:  C/D=pi= 3,14.
This is  one of condition of " imaginary" particles.
3.
Can these " imaginary" particles become "real" ?
Of course.
How?
To use Goudsmit - Uhlenbeck's impulse / spin  (h = h/ 2pi).
And as result  they acquire volume.
With volume they acquire also mass, charge, energy.
4.
Quantum theory says:
when electron interacts with vacuum, its physical parameters
 become infinite. But such statement  contradicts the
"Law of conservation and transformation energy".
And then we should understand and accept that when the
 physical parameters of electron disappear (become infinite)
 it  become  " flat figure ".
We don’t need to dream of "a method of renormalization".
5.
The " imaginary" particle is a "real " particle.
The numbers; i^2= -1, pi=3,14…, e=2,71…
belong to the " imaginary" particle.
6.
Mathematics is not written for mathematicians.
Mathematics is written for physics, for Nature.
 The numbers do not exist only for itself.
The "real" numbers exist in connection with "real" particles.
 And the "imaginary " numbers also exist in connection with
"imaginary " particles.
The "imaginary " particles are not hard, steel particles.
Their geometrical form can change.
This change is explained with Lobachevsky/ Bolyai geometry.
This change is explained with the Lorentz transformations.
==================..
Some quotations.
"A mathematician is a blind man in a dark room
looking for a black cat which isn't there"
/ Charles R. Darwin./
=================.   
As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality,
they are not certain,
and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality.
 / Albert Einstein./
===========.

[Ashtari]

Sacrates

This is true:
 "All truth passes through three stages.
 First.
It is ridiculed.
Second
It is violently opposed.
Third.
It is accepted as being self-evident."
/ Schopenhauer./

May I invite you to visit my post about "Alien or Mutants from other dimensions" because I seem to have some pertinant answers to questions here posed.

I am busy reading the whole of your post and its replies to get to the bottom of what is being discussed and views about that.  Seems to be full of very interesting gems.

Only have a problem with the wasted spaces of folk trying to write a longer post.

I notice you are still a young person and salute your interest in Life the Universe and Everything as stated on your post.  [8D] I hope I meet many intelligent young people like you on this Discussion Forum.

Pleased to meet you.



Wisewomen Ashtari  [^]

[Ashtari]

Socrates old chap  [8D]

Heaps of info @ the URL below

http://www.soulsofdistortion.nl/
 
Such as this which will show and tell more about the quantum mathematical science of the Creation = The laws or the Universe

This →Science and spirituality

In this special time of human history science and spirituality are converging into a grand new vision.

In the past decades quantum science has demonstrated unequivocally that our physical reality can not be separated from our conscious awareness of it.

In addition quantum science discovered an all pervasive energy field that permeates the entire universe, the zero point field.

From this energy field sub atomic particles jump in and out of existence all the time. The material world does not seem to be as solid as we thought it was.

The zero point field is science's equivalent of Eastern spirituality's Akashic field, the omnipresent all penetrating ether field from which both the material and immaterial world comes into existence.

Recent scientific discoveries have inspired frontier scientists now to merge contemporary science with ancient Eastern esoteric wisdom.
 
 

[socratus (OP)]

The electron and the photon.
==============================
Interesting article by Richard Gauthier:

"Superluminal Quantum Models
of the Electron and the Photon."

www.superluminalquantum.org
Richard Gauthier.
===========

[socratus (OP)]

Photon and Electron Models.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6510382465200639493
=============================

[socratus (OP)]

About gravitation particles & star formation.
============.
We supposed that graviton particles:
a)
Theoretically predicted but never observed ( a hypothetical
particle ) with no electric charge and no mass is supposed
to be responsible for the gravitational interaction between
 matter and energy.
b)
A hypothetical elementary particle is responsible
for the effects of gravity (the quantum of gravitation ).
It means, that  the initial gravitational mass of stars
and planets is created  from gravitation particles .

Nobody knows :
“What  geometrical and physical parameters
can gravitation particle have ?”
The  Einstein’s GRT doesn’t explain
which particles create a gravitation field.
I will try to explain it.
======.
1.
Where has the first material gravitation  particle appeared from ?

Now it is considered, that reference frame which
 is connected with relict isotropic radiation
T = 2,7K is absolute.
But T = 2,7K is not a constant factor.
This relict isotropic radiation continues to increase and
its temperature will decrease.
And, hence, approximately over a period of
20 billions years it will reach T=0K.
 
Therefore the gravitation particle can appears from
Nothing, from Vacuum, from Absolute Zero: T=0K?

Let us take some area of Vacuum (T=0K)
and mark it with letter R.
The number of particles in this area of Vacuum
 we will mark with letter N.
Then every particle of this area has
 gravity/ mass of rest: R/N= k.
2.
Can they have volume?"
No.
Because according to  J. Charles law ( 1787),
when the temperature falls down on 1 degree
the volume decreases on 1/273. And when the
 temperature reaches -273 degree the volume
disappears. The physicists say, if the particle
 has completely lost its volume
the physical parameters of particles become infinite.
But such statement  contradicts the
"Law of conservation and transformation energy".
And then we must understand that the sense of the
"Law of conservation and transformation energy" is.
We should understand and accept that
when volume of the particles disappears
 they become  "indefinitely flat figures ".
What do "indefinitely flat figures " mean?
They mean, that we cannot reach Absolute Vacuum T=0K
and we also cannot reach density of the particle in the T=0K.
The “ Charles law” was confirmed by other physicists:
Gay-Lussac ( 1802), W. Nernst ( 1910), A. Einstein ( 1925) .
These " flat figures " have the geometrical form
of a circle,  as from all flat figures  the circle has the most
optimal form:  C/D= pi = 3,14.

These R/N= k particles are initial gravitational particles.
============.

Which is common condition of gravitation?
1.
Let us suppose that in some local sphere of Vacuum
 the quantity of the passive particles ( k) that is equal to
the number Avogadro N was found.
Then according to the principle of Boltzmann,
the gathering of the particles in some local sphere of Vacuum
 has a probable basis:  S= klnW.
It is  common condition of gravitation.
================.

How did from these gravitation particles (k )
the first material particles appear ?

1.
The first material particles was called “helium”, because
helium exist very – very near absolute zero: T=0K.
Nobody knows what  helium is.( !)
Why?
Because the behavior of helium is absolutely different
from all another elements of Nature. ( !)
!!!!
I will try to explain, how the helium
was created from R/N=k.
2.
The helium exist very near absolute zero: T=0K.
Therefore we must  take in attention the processes
of superfluids and superconductors , which require extremely
low temperatures , approximately 0K.
3.
Then , the first particles which were created
from  R/N =k  could be helium II ( He II ),
which created temperature 2,7K.
4.
Then , the second particles which were created
from  helium II ( He II ),  could be helium I ( He I ),
which created temperature 4,2K.
/ Kapitza / Landau theory./
5.
And then all the system comes to rotary movement.
But helium rotates differently from all other liquids.
If one rotates helium very strongly, it starts to behave not as liquid
but as elastic body
 (experience of E.L. Àndronikashvili. /Georgia./ ).
Separate layers of helium become elastic ropes that change
the picture of quiet uniform rotation completely.
In such rotation sharp friction between different
layers of the liquid originates. From rotary elastic ropes
 the slices of substance  of various size come off.
Further they break to particles that received
 the names of Helium-three  3He  and Helium-four  4He. 
The common thermal temperature in liquid increases .

Rotation and collision of the particles  3He  and  4He  at some
stage leads  to their further crush to small particles, that received
the name of the nucleus of hydrogen atom- proton (p).
Protons are initial, the smallest, material particles.

The most widespread elements in stars are helium and hydrogen.
Our Sun consists of helium to  30%  and of hydrogen to  69%.
Ii was found that in external layers of our Sun on 1kg of hydrogen
 it was  necessary 270g of helium. In deeper layers on 1kg of hydrogen
 it is necessary 590g of helium.
Thus it is deeper into Sun  it is more helium.
And in the central area of Sun helium-II, helium-I are found.
The reaction between (k ) , helium and
hydrogen go basically on the Sun.
 All the elements of the material substance
 are created from the initial particles (k) and helium.
==============.

How does all the system come to rotary movement ?

1.
If gravitation-particles  fly to different sides,
they can not create the initial gravitational mass of planets, stars.
It means, that any unknown power collects the gravitation
particles  together  and gives to them the movement in one direction.
As a result of this common movement of all gravitation
particles (k )  in one direction the initial gravitational mass
 of planets and stars is created.
What power can gather all particles together?
2.
Classic physics asserts, that in a Vacuum T=0K the motion
 of particles stops, and the energy of Vacuum is equal to zero.
The quantum physics asserts, that in a Vacuum T=0K there is
 motion of particles, and the energy of Vacuum is not zero.
Therefore, let us take some energy area of Vacuum and
mark it with letter E.
The mass of this energy area of Vacuum we will
 mark with letter M.
Then every particle of this area has energy/mass of rest:
 E/M= c^2,  ( E=Mc^2,  M=Ec^2.)
3.
As this particle is in the state of rest condition
 it impulse is equal to zero ( h=0).
4.
But this particle can change its state of rest condition.
If the particle has impulse of Goudsmit -Uhlenbeck h= h/2pi,
 its energy will be: E=hw
The thermal balance of Vacuum will be disturbed.
 The actively rotating particle with energy E=hw gibes the
 movement of surrounding  passive  particles  R/N=k and
a gravitational field begins to create.
And the source of a gravitational field is an active electron  E=hw.
 The remaining particles R/N=k are passive participants
(victims) of the creating  gravitation field.
============.
The stars are formed by the scheme:
e- --k --He II-- He I --rotating He--thermonuclear reaction – р…
The Second law of thermodynamics doesn’t forbid this process.   
======================.
http://www.socratus.com
 

[jolly]

About gravitation particles & star formation.
============.
We supposed that graviton particles:
a)
Theoretically predicted but never observed ( a hypothetical
particle ) with no electric charge and no mass is supposed
to be responsible for the gravitational interaction between
 matter and energy.
b)
A hypothetical elementary particle is responsible
for the effects of gravity (the quantum of gravitation ).
It means, that  the initial gravitational mass of stars
and planets is created  from gravitation particles .

I totally disagree with the idea!

Nobody knows :
“What  geometrical and physical parameters
can gravitation particle have ?”
The  Einstein’s GRT doesn’t explain
which particles create a gravitation field.
I will try to explain it.
======.
1.
Where has the first material gravitation  particle appeared from ?

Now it is considered, that reference frame which
 is connected with relict isotropic radiation
T = 2,7K is absolute.
But T = 2,7K is not a constant factor.
This relict isotropic radiation continues to increase and
its temperature will decrease.
And, hence, approximately over a period of
20 billions years it will reach T=0K.
 
Therefore the gravitation particle can appears from
Nothing, from Vacuum, from Absolute Zero: T=0K?

Let us take some area of Vacuum (T=0K)
and mark it with letter R.
The number of particles in this area of Vacuum
 we will mark with letter N.
Then every particle of this area has
 gravity/ mass of rest: R/N= k.
2.
Can they have volume?"
No.
Because according to  J. Charles law ( 1787),
when the temperature falls down on 1 degree
the volume decreases on 1/273. And when the
 temperature reaches -273 degree the volume
disappears. The physicists say, if the particle
 has completely lost its volume
the physical parameters of particles become infinite.
But such statement  contradicts the
"Law of conservation and transformation energy".
And then we must understand that the sense of the
"Law of conservation and transformation energy" is.
We should understand and accept that
when volume of the particles disappears
 they become  "indefinitely flat figures ".
What do "indefinitely flat figures " mean?
They mean, that we cannot reach Absolute Vacuum T=0K
and we also cannot reach density of the particle in the T=0K.
The “ Charles law” was confirmed by other physicists:
Gay-Lussac ( 1802), W. Nernst ( 1910), A. Einstein ( 1925) .
These " flat figures " have the geometrical form
of a circle,  as from all flat figures  the circle has the most
optimal form:  C/D= pi = 3,14.

These R/N= k particles are initial gravitational particles.
============.

Now I definately do not agree...lol

Which is common condition of gravitation?
1.
Let us suppose that in some local sphere of Vacuum
 the quantity of the passive particles ( k) that is equal to
the number Avogadro N was found.
Then according to the principle of Boltzmann,
the gathering of the particles in some local sphere of Vacuum
 has a probable basis:  S= klnW.
It is  common condition of gravitation.
================.

How did from these gravitation particles (k )
the first material particles appear ?

1.
The first material particles was called “helium”, because
helium exist very – very near absolute zero: T=0K.
Nobody knows what  helium is.( !)
Why?
Because the behavior of helium is absolutely different
from all another elements of Nature. ( !)
!!!!
I will try to explain, how the helium
was created from R/N=k.
2.
The helium exist very near absolute zero: T=0K.
Therefore we must  take in attention the processes
of superfluids and superconductors , which require extremely
low temperatures , approximately 0K.
3.
Then , the first particles which were created
from  R/N =k  could be helium II ( He II ),
which created temperature 2,7K.
4.
Then , the second particles which were created
from  helium II ( He II ),  could be helium I ( He I ),
which created temperature 4,2K.
/ Kapitza / Landau theory./
5.
And then all the system comes to rotary movement.
But helium rotates differently from all other liquids.
If one rotates helium very strongly, it starts to behave not as liquid
but as elastic body
 (experience of E.L. Àndronikashvili. /Georgia./ ).
Separate layers of helium become elastic ropes that change
the picture of quiet uniform rotation completely.
In such rotation sharp friction between different
layers of the liquid originates. From rotary elastic ropes
 the slices of substance  of various size come off.
Further they break to particles that received
 the names of Helium-three  3He  and Helium-four  4He. 
The common thermal temperature in liquid increases .

Rotation and collision of the particles  3He  and  4He  at some
stage leads  to their further crush to small particles, that received
the name of the nucleus of hydrogen atom- proton (p).
Protons are initial, the smallest, material particles.

The most widespread elements in stars are helium and hydrogen.
Our Sun consists of helium to  30%  and of hydrogen to  69%.
Ii was found that in external layers of our Sun on 1kg of hydrogen
 it was  necessary 270g of helium. In deeper layers on 1kg of hydrogen
 it is necessary 590g of helium.
Thus it is deeper into Sun  it is more helium.
And in the central area of Sun helium-II, helium-I are found.
The reaction between (k ) , helium and
hydrogen go basically on the Sun.
 All the elements of the material substance
 are created from the initial particles (k) and helium.
==============.

How does all the system come to rotary movement ?

1.
If gravitation-particles  fly to different sides,
they can not create the initial gravitational mass of planets, stars.
It means, that any unknown power collects the gravitation
particles  together  and gives to them the movement in one direction.
As a result of this common movement of all gravitation
particles (k )  in one direction the initial gravitational mass
 of planets and stars is created.
What power can gather all particles together?
2.
Classic physics asserts, that in a Vacuum T=0K the motion
 of particles stops, and the energy of Vacuum is equal to zero.
The quantum physics asserts, that in a Vacuum T=0K there is
 motion of particles, and the energy of Vacuum is not zero.
Therefore, let us take some energy area of Vacuum and
mark it with letter E.
The mass of this energy area of Vacuum we will
 mark with letter M.
Then every particle of this area has energy/mass of rest:
 E/M= c^2,  ( E=Mc^2,  M=Ec^2.)
3.
As this particle is in the state of rest condition
 it impulse is equal to zero ( h=0).
4.
But this particle can change its state of rest condition.
If the particle has impulse of Goudsmit -Uhlenbeck h= h/2pi,
 its energy will be: E=hw
The thermal balance of Vacuum will be disturbed.
 The actively rotating particle with energy E=hw gibes the
 movement of surrounding  passive  particles  R/N=k and
a gravitational field begins to create.
And the source of a gravitational field is an active electron  E=hw.
 The remaining particles R/N=k are passive participants
(victims) of the creating  gravitation field.
============.
The stars are formed by the scheme:
e- --k --He II-- He I --rotating He--thermonuclear reaction – р…
The Second law of thermodynamics doesn’t forbid this process.   
======================.
http://www.socratus.com
 

Lovely idea, totally incorrect, these particals do not exsist!

[jolly]

Sacrates

This is true:
 "All truth passes through three stages.
 First.
It is ridiculed.
Second
It is violently opposed.
Third.
It is accepted as being self-evident."
/ Schopenhauer./

May I invite you to visit my post about "Alien or Mutants from other dimensions" because I seem to have some pertinant answers to questions here posed.

I am busy reading the whole of your post and its replies to get to the bottom of what is being discussed and views about that.  Seems to be full of very interesting gems.

Only have a problem with the wasted spaces of folk trying to write a longer post.

I notice you are still a young person and salute your interest in Life the Universe and Everything as stated on your post.  [8D] I hope I meet many intelligent young people like you on this Discussion Forum.

Pleased to meet you.



Wisewomen Ashtari  [^]

LOL, I would love to here about these aliens!

[socratus (OP)]

Some remark about SRT.
==================
The formula E=Mc^2 continues to providethe answers to Physics.
1.
Photon is some " form of energy".
2.
Like a " form of energy" it has the rest energy: E=Mc^2.
3.
This photon has a mass.
But in many books it is written:
"...remember that this (photon,s)energy has mass
in accondance with the equation: M=E/c^2
(mass equal to energy divided by speed squared).
It is not correct.
Why?
Because SRT shows that mass and energy are equivalent:
the property called mass is simple concentrated energy.
In other words massof photon is its energy, and its energy
is its mass, and the distinctionis a simple play of words.
So, the mass of photon is: M=Ec^2 (mass equal to its
potential (rest) energy multiplied (not divided)
 by speed squared).
So, it seems we are in some " fairy ring":
 E=Mc^2 and M= Ec^2.
When the question is:
How does this potential (rest)energy/mass of one photon
become kinetic and active?
Or in another words:
What does the Law of transformation and conservation
energy/mass mean according to one single photon?
==================================

[samlyn]

The first law of universe:
Without universals nothing can be made.

The second law of universe:
UNIVERSALS NOT ONLY MAKE YOURSELF, BUT ALSO MAKE EVERYTHING ELSE.


The third law of universe:
NO THOUGHT ABOUT ANYTHING OTHER THAN YOURSELF WOULD BE MADE WITHOUT THE UNIVERSALS WITH WHICH THE THOUGHTS ABOUT YOURSELF ARE MADE.

The fourth law of universe:
Yourself would not be the difference among the thoughts about Yourself.

The fifth law of universe:
Without universals, Yourself cannot be as "part, whole, equivalence, uniqueness, limit, link, sensation, influence, derivative, origin, condition, rule, intent, and fulfillment."

The sixth law of universe:
Universals cannot make Yourself other than as "part, whole, equivalence, uniqueness, limit, link, sensation, influence, derivative, origin, condition, rule, intent, and fulfillment."

The seventh law of universe:
Without universals, no difference can be made either between Yourself and nothingness or between Yourself and anything other than Yourself.

Source: THOUGHT PREDICTOR

[Boxcar]

Action, when the God opens his palm,
have named the “Big Bang”.
And action, when the God compresses his palm,
have named " a  single point”.

Is there a law for that or are you taking the piss?

[socratus (OP)]

Reality begins from Nothing.
Nothing is not Nothing because it has
one simple parameter: T=0K.
When people came to ask Reality what Is It,
IT tell them to study ITS particles .
But nobody studies the T=0K particles... ...... ( ?)
It is pity, because from them........both
the material and immaterial world comes into existence.

[Barnacle]

'Honesty is the best policy except when it seems better to lie'. Remember that and you wont go far wrong..

[pete_inthehills]

the first law of the Universe.....S**t happens.

The first rule of forum postings according to pete_inthehills....don't make your post too long 'cos I can't be bothered to read them and then I'll just make some sarcastic comment.


pete
inthehills

[kkawohl]

Sacrates

This is true:
 "All truth passes through three stages.
 First.
It is ridiculed.
Second
It is violently opposed.
Third.
It is accepted as being self-evident."
/ Schopenhauer./

 
 Wisewomen Ashtari  [^]

I'm passing through those stages now...I'm at the first stage...What am I & what can I expect? See http://urantia.us [nofollow]

[m.levert]

sounds like philosophical alchemy to me.

according to Einstein,gravity is a property of space rather than the object in the well.(i thought)

rather like conciousness is a property of the brain, an ``emergent phenomena`` (i reckon)

concerning truth, i think truth is what you make it. the universe is vast and wide and can easily accommodate all things, just don`t expect to be necessarily correct in the final reckoning.

to paraphrase current cosmological thinking, forevery one thing you look at, there are nine other things you can`t even see.

                                                                                                                                         

[Hadrian]

Fill the vacuum!!!