[guest39538]

I do not do beliefs, unlike you believe everything you read on Wiki to be true and axiom facts.  Only a fool would believe in such.

[guest39538]

Your problem is you can not comprehend things that are not wrote on wiki because these things are more than just remembering, you have to have the ability to think for yourself in which you clearly lack.

[The Spoon]

My! What an angry little pigeon!

I cannot do any science eh? Maybe not. I make a pretty good living from doing science. How do make a few pennies?

You seem to get so wound up when people point out that your definition of things is at odds with the way the rest of the world define things. Maybe you should get some kind of counselling?

[guest39538]

. I make a pretty good living from doing science. How do make a few pennies?

What you really mean is you make a living of mimicking something you were taught to remember.  That is not doing science.  Provide one piece of science that you have provided yourself?

[The Spoon]

. I make a pretty good living from doing science. How do make a few pennies?

What you really mean is you make a living of mimicking something you were taught to remember.  That is not doing science.  Provide one piece of science that you have provided yourself?

What have you actually done? Other than cluttering up online forums? Name one practical thing you have done - and I dont mean generic carp fishing videos with a robotic voice. You don't even have a clue what science is as you have not even made the effort to learn the basics - same with maths. All you do is wind people up on forums pigeon.

[guest39538]

. I make a pretty good living from doing science. How do make a few pennies?

What you really mean is you make a living of mimicking something you were taught to remember.  That is not doing science.  Provide one piece of science that you have provided yourself?

What have you actually done? Other than cluttering up online forums? Name one practical thing you have done - and I dont mean generic carp fishing videos with a robotic voice. You don't even have a clue what science is as you have not even made the effort to learn the basics - same with maths. All you do is wind people up on forums pigeon.

See the proof's in the pudding, you do not do science.   What have I done?  I do experiments regularly but using things I can find lying around the house.  I have answers what is time, I have not sent it for peerview as a paper because I want something a bit ''bigger'' than just time. Like answering what gravity is.
The only person I see getting wind up is yourself by yourself, this is not my doing.  Just because you are stereotypical as a person that does not mean other people do not have answers.
I could out think most people all day long is my ability.
Practical wise not involving science I am very good in doing many different things. I am versatile.

What is your job? I wonder if I could do it.

[The Spoon]

. I make a pretty good living from doing science. How do make a few pennies?

What you really mean is you make a living of mimicking something you were taught to remember.  That is not doing science.  Provide one piece of science that you have provided yourself?

What have you actually done? Other than cluttering up online forums? Name one practical thing you have done - and I dont mean generic carp fishing videos with a robotic voice. You don't even have a clue what science is as you have not even made the effort to learn the basics - same with maths. All you do is wind people up on forums pigeon.

See the proof's in the pudding, you do not do science.   What have I done?  I do experiments regularly but using things I can find lying around the house.  I have answers what is time, I have not sent it for peerview as a paper because I want something a bit ''bigger'' than just time. Like answering what gravity is.
The only person I see getting wind up is yourself by yourself, this is not my doing.  Just because you are stereotypical as a person that does not mean other people do not have answers.
I could out think most people all day long is my ability.
Practical wise not involving science I am very good in doing many different things. I am versatile.

I do experiments regularly but using things I can find lying around the house.  I have answers what is time, I have not sent it for peerview as a paper because I want something a bit ''bigger'' than just time. Like answering what gravity is.

You are obviously just taking the piss.

How can you claim to do science when you are so completely ignorant of science, maths, English etc  and frequently demonstrate this. Your 'experiments' like claiming to see atoms? Nonsense. Trying to sound 'sciency' by writing in what you think (incorrectly) approximates German.

You seem to disagree on commonly used definitions because they do not  fit in with what you imagine they should e.g. what constitutes light (and trying to distinguish this from visible) light. You don't wind me up - I think of you as a bit of a joke. I make money from science. You never, ever will. Try a circus Pigeon. 

[Bored chemist]

Of course the light that glares off an object is not clear, we are not taking about the visible light of interaction.  We are discussing the light that permeates through ''free space''.

At the risk of being accused of  pinching an idea from the Prime Minister, Light means light.
There aren't these two different "flavours" that you seem to imagine.

[guest39538]

Of course the light that glares off an object is not clear, we are not taking about the visible light of interaction.  We are discussing the light that permeates through ''free space''.

At the risk of being accused of  pinching an idea from the Prime Minister, Light means light.
There aren't these two different "flavours" that you seem to imagine.

If I must then...

Electromagnetic radiation in this range of wavelengths is called visible light or simply light. A typical human eye will respond to wavelengths from about 390 to 700 nm. In terms of frequency, this corresponds to a band in the vicinity of 430–770 THz.

The visible spectrum is the portion of the electromagnetic spectrum that is visible to the human eye. Electromagnetic radiation in this range of wavelengths is called visible light or simply light. A typical human eye will respond to wavelengths from about 390 to 700 nm.[1] In terms of frequency, this corresponds to a band in the vicinity of 430–770 THz.

To put it simply light is a generalised term for electromagnetic radiation. Some of it is observable by the eye, i.e visible light

Some of it can be detectable by device but not the eye  i.e invisible spectrum

invisible spectrum
The portion of the spectrum either below the red (infrared) or above the violet (ultraviolet), which is invisible to the eye, the waves being too long or too short to affect the retina. The invisible spectrum includes rays less than 3900 Å in length (ultraviolet, roentgen or x, gamma, and cosmic rays) and those exceeding 7700 Å in length (infrared, high-frequency oscillations used in short- and long-wave diathermy, radio, hertzian, and very long waves). These range in length from 7700 Å to 5,000,000 m.

Quite clearly you do not know what you are talking about because light is a general term we use but light is not just light.

The ''light'' permeating through space is the invisible spectrum, light interacting with permeability and having a force feedback is visible light.

Ok, you got it now?

[The Spoon]

Of course the light that glares off an object is not clear, we are not taking about the visible light of interaction.  We are discussing the light that permeates through ''free space''.

At the risk of being accused of  pinching an idea from the Prime Minister, Light means light.
There aren't these two different "flavours" that you seem to imagine.

If I must then...

Electromagnetic radiation in this range of wavelengths is called visible light or simply light. A typical human eye will respond to wavelengths from about 390 to 700 nm. In terms of frequency, this corresponds to a band in the vicinity of 430–770 THz.

The visible spectrum is the portion of the electromagnetic spectrum that is visible to the human eye. Electromagnetic radiation in this range of wavelengths is called visible light or simply light. A typical human eye will respond to wavelengths from about 390 to 700 nm.[1] In terms of frequency, this corresponds to a band in the vicinity of 430–770 THz.

To put it simply light is a generalised term for electromagnetic radiation. Some of it is observable by the eye, i.e visible light

Some of it can be detectable by device but not the eye  i.e invisible spectrum

invisible spectrum
The portion of the spectrum either below the red (infrared) or above the violet (ultraviolet), which is invisible to the eye, the waves being too long or too short to affect the retina. The invisible spectrum includes rays less than 3900 Å in length (ultraviolet, roentgen or x, gamma, and cosmic rays) and those exceeding 7700 Å in length (infrared, high-frequency oscillations used in short- and long-wave diathermy, radio, hertzian, and very long waves). These range in length from 7700 Å to 5,000,000 m.

Quite clearly you do not know what you are talking about because light is a general term we use but light is not just light.

The ''light'' permeating through space is the invisible spectrum, light interacting with permeability and having a force feedback is visible light.

Ok, you got it now?

No. Light is the generalised term for the visible portion of the electromagnetic spectrum. This is why short wave radio, gamma radiation and xrays are not referred to as light. Got it now?

[guest39538]

Of course the light that glares off an object is not clear, we are not taking about the visible light of interaction.  We are discussing the light that permeates through ''free space''.

At the risk of being accused of  pinching an idea from the Prime Minister, Light means light.
There aren't these two different "flavours" that you seem to imagine.

If I must then...

Electromagnetic radiation in this range of wavelengths is called visible light or simply light. A typical human eye will respond to wavelengths from about 390 to 700 nm. In terms of frequency, this corresponds to a band in the vicinity of 430–770 THz.

The visible spectrum is the portion of the electromagnetic spectrum that is visible to the human eye. Electromagnetic radiation in this range of wavelengths is called visible light or simply light. A typical human eye will respond to wavelengths from about 390 to 700 nm.[1] In terms of frequency, this corresponds to a band in the vicinity of 430–770 THz.

To put it simply light is a generalised term for electromagnetic radiation. Some of it is observable by the eye, i.e visible light

Some of it can be detectable by device but not the eye  i.e invisible spectrum

invisible spectrum
The portion of the spectrum either below the red (infrared) or above the violet (ultraviolet), which is invisible to the eye, the waves being too long or too short to affect the retina. The invisible spectrum includes rays less than 3900 Å in length (ultraviolet, roentgen or x, gamma, and cosmic rays) and those exceeding 7700 Å in length (infrared, high-frequency oscillations used in short- and long-wave diathermy, radio, hertzian, and very long waves). These range in length from 7700 Å to 5,000,000 m.

Quite clearly you do not know what you are talking about because light is a general term we use but light is not just light.

The ''light'' permeating through space is the invisible spectrum, light interacting with permeability and having a force feedback is visible light.

Ok, you got it now?

No. Light is the generalised term for the visible portion of the electromagnetic spectrum. This is why short wave radio, gamma radiation and xrays are not referred to as light. Got it now?

Hmmm, radio waves is light (electromagnetic radiation) and so are x-rays and gamma radiation and the CBMR you missed out. .  Quite clearly you do not understand the difference between visible by the eye and visible/detectable by device.

We as humans can only observe light between 400nm-700nm, Other species can observe infra red light which is not within our visual range.
We can detect wave-lengths of light by device that we can not see with our own eyes, but it is still light . 

[The Spoon]

Of course the light that glares off an object is not clear, we are not taking about the visible light of interaction.  We are discussing the light that permeates through ''free space''.

At the risk of being accused of  pinching an idea from the Prime Minister, Light means light.
There aren't these two different "flavours" that you seem to imagine.

If I must then...

Electromagnetic radiation in this range of wavelengths is called visible light or simply light. A typical human eye will respond to wavelengths from about 390 to 700 nm. In terms of frequency, this corresponds to a band in the vicinity of 430–770 THz.

The visible spectrum is the portion of the electromagnetic spectrum that is visible to the human eye. Electromagnetic radiation in this range of wavelengths is called visible light or simply light. A typical human eye will respond to wavelengths from about 390 to 700 nm.[1] In terms of frequency, this corresponds to a band in the vicinity of 430–770 THz.

To put it simply light is a generalised term for electromagnetic radiation. Some of it is observable by the eye, i.e visible light

Some of it can be detectable by device but not the eye  i.e invisible spectrum

invisible spectrum
The portion of the spectrum either below the red (infrared) or above the violet (ultraviolet), which is invisible to the eye, the waves being too long or too short to affect the retina. The invisible spectrum includes rays less than 3900 Å in length (ultraviolet, roentgen or x, gamma, and cosmic rays) and those exceeding 7700 Å in length (infrared, high-frequency oscillations used in short- and long-wave diathermy, radio, hertzian, and very long waves). These range in length from 7700 Å to 5,000,000 m.

Quite clearly you do not know what you are talking about because light is a general term we use but light is not just light.

The ''light'' permeating through space is the invisible spectrum, light interacting with permeability and having a force feedback is visible light.

Ok, you got it now?

No. Light is the generalised term for the visible portion of the electromagnetic spectrum. This is why short wave radio, gamma radiation and xrays are not referred to as light. Got it now?

Hmmm, radio waves is light (electromagnetic radiation) and so are x-rays and gamma radiation and the CBMR you missed out. .  Quite clearly you do not understand the difference between visible by the eye and visible/detectable by device.

We as humans can only observe light between 400nm-700nm, Other species can observe infra red light which is not within our visual range.
We can detect wave-lengths of light by device that we can not see with our own eyes, but it is still light . 

No. As pointed out further up the thread by me and others light refers to that portion of the electromagnetic spectrum that is visible. Oxford English dictionary defines it as 'The natural agent that stimulates sight and makes things visible'.

If we go to wikip=aedia again we have 'The visible spectrum is the portion of the electromagnetic spectrum that is visible to the human eye. Electromagnetic radiation in this range of wavelengths is called visible light or simply light'

This is the accepted definition that is used. This how language works - we use accepted definitions otherwise we cannot communicate and you do seem to have all sorts of problems communicating anything. What you do is claim you have a new idea and instead of using accepted definitions that everybody else uses claim that it is 'book learning'. 

The definitions of light explicitly exclude radio waves, gamma radiation, xrays and your favourite 'sciencey' jargon CMBR.

Your denial of this is rather like somebody saying 'apples are fruit, therefore all fruit are apples' being told this is incorrect and then claiming everybody is trolling you and just using book learning. It is completely idiotic.

[guest39538]

Of course the light that glares off an object is not clear, we are not taking about the visible light of interaction.  We are discussing the light that permeates through ''free space''.

At the risk of being accused of  pinching an idea from the Prime Minister, Light means light.
There aren't these two different "flavours" that you seem to imagine.

If I must then...

Electromagnetic radiation in this range of wavelengths is called visible light or simply light. A typical human eye will respond to wavelengths from about 390 to 700 nm. In terms of frequency, this corresponds to a band in the vicinity of 430–770 THz.

The visible spectrum is the portion of the electromagnetic spectrum that is visible to the human eye. Electromagnetic radiation in this range of wavelengths is called visible light or simply light. A typical human eye will respond to wavelengths from about 390 to 700 nm.[1] In terms of frequency, this corresponds to a band in the vicinity of 430–770 THz.

To put it simply light is a generalised term for electromagnetic radiation. Some of it is observable by the eye, i.e visible light

Some of it can be detectable by device but not the eye  i.e invisible spectrum

invisible spectrum
The portion of the spectrum either below the red (infrared) or above the violet (ultraviolet), which is invisible to the eye, the waves being too long or too short to affect the retina. The invisible spectrum includes rays less than 3900 Å in length (ultraviolet, roentgen or x, gamma, and cosmic rays) and those exceeding 7700 Å in length (infrared, high-frequency oscillations used in short- and long-wave diathermy, radio, hertzian, and very long waves). These range in length from 7700 Å to 5,000,000 m.

Quite clearly you do not know what you are talking about because light is a general term we use but light is not just light.

The ''light'' permeating through space is the invisible spectrum, light interacting with permeability and having a force feedback is visible light.

Ok, you got it now?

No. Light is the generalised term for the visible portion of the electromagnetic spectrum. This is why short wave radio, gamma radiation and xrays are not referred to as light. Got it now?

Hmmm, radio waves is light (electromagnetic radiation) and so are x-rays and gamma radiation and the CBMR you missed out. .  Quite clearly you do not understand the difference between visible by the eye and visible/detectable by device.

We as humans can only observe light between 400nm-700nm, Other species can observe infra red light which is not within our visual range.
We can detect wave-lengths of light by device that we can not see with our own eyes, but it is still light . 

No. As pointed out further up the thread by me and others light refers to that portion of the electromagnetic spectrum that is visible. Oxford English dictionary defines it as 'The natural agent that stimulates sight and makes things visible'.

If we go to wikip=aedia again we have 'The visible spectrum is the portion of the electromagnetic spectrum that is visible to the human eye. Electromagnetic radiation in this range of wavelengths is called visible light or simply light'

This is the accepted definition that is used. This how language works - we use accepted definitions otherwise we cannot communicate and you do seem to have all sorts of problems communicating anything. What you do is claim you have a new idea and instead of using accepted definitions that everybody else uses claim that it is 'book learning'. 

The definitions of light explicitly exclude radio waves, gamma radiation, xrays and your favourite 'sciencey' jargon CMBR.

Your denial of this is rather like somebody saying 'apples are fruit, therefore all fruit are apples' being told this is incorrect and then claiming everybody is trolling you and just using book learning. It is completely idiotic.

No, you are only representing visible light and not invisible light, the invisible part of the spectrum that you can not see.

Radio waves are a type of electromagnetic radiation with wavelengths in the electromagnetic spectrum longer than infrared light. ... At 300 GHz, the corresponding wavelength is 1 mm (0.039 in), and at 3 kHz is 100 km (62 mi). Like all other electromagnetic waves, they travel at the speed of light.

All electromagnetic radiation is light, get it now?

https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/14710/is-visible-light-and-radio-waves-made-of-the-same-thing

[The Spoon]

Of course the light that glares off an object is not clear, we are not taking about the visible light of interaction.  We are discussing the light that permeates through ''free space''.

At the risk of being accused of  pinching an idea from the Prime Minister, Light means light.
There aren't these two different "flavours" that you seem to imagine.

If I must then...

Electromagnetic radiation in this range of wavelengths is called visible light or simply light. A typical human eye will respond to wavelengths from about 390 to 700 nm. In terms of frequency, this corresponds to a band in the vicinity of 430–770 THz.

The visible spectrum is the portion of the electromagnetic spectrum that is visible to the human eye. Electromagnetic radiation in this range of wavelengths is called visible light or simply light. A typical human eye will respond to wavelengths from about 390 to 700 nm.[1] In terms of frequency, this corresponds to a band in the vicinity of 430–770 THz.

To put it simply light is a generalised term for electromagnetic radiation. Some of it is observable by the eye, i.e visible light

Some of it can be detectable by device but not the eye  i.e invisible spectrum

invisible spectrum
The portion of the spectrum either below the red (infrared) or above the violet (ultraviolet), which is invisible to the eye, the waves being too long or too short to affect the retina. The invisible spectrum includes rays less than 3900 Å in length (ultraviolet, roentgen or x, gamma, and cosmic rays) and those exceeding 7700 Å in length (infrared, high-frequency oscillations used in short- and long-wave diathermy, radio, hertzian, and very long waves). These range in length from 7700 Å to 5,000,000 m.

Quite clearly you do not know what you are talking about because light is a general term we use but light is not just light.

The ''light'' permeating through space is the invisible spectrum, light interacting with permeability and having a force feedback is visible light.

Ok, you got it now?

No. Light is the generalised term for the visible portion of the electromagnetic spectrum. This is why short wave radio, gamma radiation and xrays are not referred to as light. Got it now?

Hmmm, radio waves is light (electromagnetic radiation) and so are x-rays and gamma radiation and the CBMR you missed out. .  Quite clearly you do not understand the difference between visible by the eye and visible/detectable by device.

We as humans can only observe light between 400nm-700nm, Other species can observe infra red light which is not within our visual range.
We can detect wave-lengths of light by device that we can not see with our own eyes, but it is still light . 

No. As pointed out further up the thread by me and others light refers to that portion of the electromagnetic spectrum that is visible. Oxford English dictionary defines it as 'The natural agent that stimulates sight and makes things visible'.

If we go to wikip=aedia again we have 'The visible spectrum is the portion of the electromagnetic spectrum that is visible to the human eye. Electromagnetic radiation in this range of wavelengths is called visible light or simply light'

This is the accepted definition that is used. This how language works - we use accepted definitions otherwise we cannot communicate and you do seem to have all sorts of problems communicating anything. What you do is claim you have a new idea and instead of using accepted definitions that everybody else uses claim that it is 'book learning'. 

The definitions of light explicitly exclude radio waves, gamma radiation, xrays and your favourite 'sciencey' jargon CMBR.

Your denial of this is rather like somebody saying 'apples are fruit, therefore all fruit are apples' being told this is incorrect and then claiming everybody is trolling you and just using book learning. It is completely idiotic.

No, you are only representing visible light and not invisible light, the invisible part of the spectrum that you can not see.

Radio waves are a type of electromagnetic radiation with wavelengths in the electromagnetic spectrum longer than infrared light. ... At 300 GHz, the corresponding wavelength is 1 mm (0.039 in), and at 3 kHz is 100 km (62 mi). Like all other electromagnetic waves, they travel at the speed of light.

All electromagnetic radiation is light, get it now?

Nope. They travel at the speed of light, but are not light. Carry on using your own made definitions if you like. No one else will recognise your definition or seriously engage with you but as long as you are happy in your own isolated, deluded little world, that is fine by me Pigeon.

[guest39538]

Nope. They travel at the speed of light, but are not light. Carry on using your own made definitions if you like. No one else will recognise your definition or seriously engage with you but as long as you are happy in your own isolated, deluded little world, that is fine by me Pigeon.

Radio waves travel at c and is invisible light, light that is not in the frequency of visible light 400nm-700nm. 
Did  you not read the previous posts where I provided you with visible spectrum and invisible spectrum?

The invisible spectrum is wave-lengths of electromagnetic radiation, i.e light

The stuff we transmit is photons (electromagnetic radiation).   

[The Spoon]

Nope. They travel at the speed of light, but are not light. Carry on using your own made definitions if you like. No one else will recognise your definition or seriously engage with you but as long as you are happy in your own isolated, deluded little world, that is fine by me Pigeon.

Radio waves travel at c and is invisible light, light that is not in the frequency of visible light 400nm-700nm. 
Did  you not read the previous posts where I provided you with visible spectrum and invisible spectrum?

The invisible spectrum is wave-lengths of electromagnetic radiation, i.e light

The stuff we transmit is photons (electromagnetic radiation).   

Nope. Wrong. Feel free to post more nonsense. It serves as a testament for everybody to see of your huge ignorance.

[guest39538]

Nope. They travel at the speed of light, but are not light. Carry on using your own made definitions if you like. No one else will recognise your definition or seriously engage with you but as long as you are happy in your own isolated, deluded little world, that is fine by me Pigeon.

Radio waves travel at c and is invisible light, light that is not in the frequency of visible light 400nm-700nm. 
Did  you not read the previous posts where I provided you with visible spectrum and invisible spectrum?

The invisible spectrum is wave-lengths of electromagnetic radiation, i.e light

The stuff we transmit is photons (electromagnetic radiation).   

Nope. Wrong. Feel free to post more nonsense. It serves as a testament for everybody to see of your huge ignorance.

Well seems as everyone reading this can type in visible spectrum and invisible spectrum on google, I think you are making yourself look rather a troll. I do like the reverse character move though from you.

[Bored chemist]

The ''light'' permeating through space is the invisible spectrum, light interacting with permeability and having a force feedback is visible light.

Ok, you got it now?

No
Becauses that's made-up gibberish.
Light going through space is exactly the same as the light that, when it hits your eye, is visible.
It doesn't "change" .
You have misunderstood the definition (possibly deliberately).
Let me clarify it.

"The visible spectrum is the portion of the electromagnetic spectrum that is visible to the human eye or would be if it entered the eye. Electromagnetic radiation in this range of wavelengths is called visible light or simply light. A typical human eye will respond to wavelengths from about 390 to 700 nm.[1] In terms of frequency, this corresponds to a band in the vicinity of 430–770 THz."

[guest39538]

The ''light'' permeating through space is the invisible spectrum, light interacting with permeability and having a force feedback is visible light.

Ok, you got it now?

No
Becauses that's made-up gibberish.
Light going through space is exactly the same as the light that, when it hits your eye, is visible.
It doesn't "change" .
You have misunderstood the definition (possibly deliberately).
Let me clarify it.

"The visible spectrum is the portion of the electromagnetic spectrum that is visible to the human eye or would be if it entered the eye. Electromagnetic radiation in this range of wavelengths is called visible light or simply light. A typical human eye will respond to wavelengths from about 390 to 700 nm.[1] In terms of frequency, this corresponds to a band in the vicinity of 430–770 THz."

No, The visible spectrum is the portion of the electromagnetic spectrum that is visible to the human eye.  Visible light only exists of electromagnetic radiation and substance interaction in it's exact geometrical position.  The invisible spectrum is the electromagnetic radiation permeating through space that enters your eyes to allow you to see. Photons do not exist and visible light is a consequence of Q.F.F (Quantum field fluctuations).


added- I suppose the N-field electromagnetic spectrum  theory, will be too much for your mind to comprehend at this  time and is probably years ahead of your time. ....