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I don't know what this means... can somebody translate please?
« on: 17/02/2018 02:12:32 »
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(x,y,z)=(f(x)=x)+(f(x)≠x)±(<1/≥1)
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Using closest Wolfram|Alpha interpretation: (f(x)=x)
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f(x) = x
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Properties as a real function:Domain:
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bijective from its domain to R
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Indefinite integral assuming all variables are real:
integral x dx = x^2/2 + constant
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Re: I don't know what this means... can somebody translate please?
« Reply #1 on: 17/02/2018 08:58:43 »
The meaning is called GIGO in computing terms. Garbage in, gatbage out.
If you try to run an illogical or otherwise faulty program, or put in information which is faulty, they you will get a faulty output.
In this case the program is trying to make sense of your ‘formula’ and failing. At one point it thinks you might be describing a straight line and trying to solve a derivative.
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Re: I don't know what this means... can somebody translate please?
« Reply #2 on: 17/02/2018 10:06:04 »
The Wolfram tools are very good at solving mathematical problems, and even general knowledge problems.
I understand that some of the smartphone voice response systems use these as one of their knowledge sources.

But the provided formula is not a mathematical problem, it is a semantic problem - the formula doesn't mean anything, so Wolfram Alpha can't make any sense of it..
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Re: I don't know what this means... can somebody translate please?
« Reply #3 on: 17/02/2018 15:01:57 »
Quote from: evan_au on 17/02/2018 10:06:04
The Wolfram tools are very good at solving mathematical problems, and even general knowledge problems.
I understand that some of the smartphone voice response systems use these as one of their knowledge sources.

But the provided formula is not a mathematical problem, it is a semantic problem - the formula doesn't mean anything, so Wolfram Alpha can't make any sense of it..

Indefinite integral assuming all variables are real:
integral x dx = x^2/2 + constant
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+constant?
Garbage in and garbage out? No way!
Considering the equation is nothing but undefined variables, I'd say they're real enough. All numbers are fundamentally imaginary anyways, and this just allows you to "see" the 3D shadow of the universe.
It's the Universal Constant buddy... I found it.
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Re: I don't know what this means... can somebody translate please?
« Reply #4 on: 17/02/2018 15:11:59 »
This still makes no sense
(x,y,z)=(f(x)=x)+(f(x)≠x)±(<1/≥1)
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Re: I don't know what this means... can somebody translate please?
« Reply #5 on: 17/02/2018 16:07:06 »
Quote from: Ve9aPrim3 on 17/02/2018 15:01:57
Indefinite integral assuming all variables are real:
integral x dx = x^2/2 + constant


Absolutely true. What's the problem?
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Re: I don't know what this means... can somebody translate please?
« Reply #6 on: 17/02/2018 19:21:33 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 17/02/2018 15:11:59
This still makes no sense
(x,y,z)=(f(x)=x)+(f(x)≠x)±(<1/≥1)

IF
(x,y,z)=(f(x)=x)+(f(x)≠x)±(<1/≥1)
TRUE
THEN
0=1
ELSE
0=0

Proof:

f(x)=x
f(-x)=f(yz)
f(yz)=x±(0/1)
f(xyz)=f(x)+f(yz)
∅=∞
0=1
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Re: I don't know what this means... can somebody translate please?
« Reply #7 on: 17/02/2018 19:56:11 »
Assuming you are right about this
"IF
(x,y,z)=(f(x)=x)+(f(x)≠x)±(<1/≥1)
TRUE
THEN
0=1"
 and given that 1 isn't zero, we can deduce that this assterion
(x,y,z)=(f(x)=x)+(f(x)≠x)±(<1/≥1)
is false by reductio ad absurdum.
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Re: I don't know what this means... can somebody translate please?
« Reply #8 on: 17/02/2018 20:20:35 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 17/02/2018 19:56:11
Assuming you are right about this
"IF
(x,y,z)=(f(x)=x)+(f(x)≠x)±(<1/≥1)
TRUE
THEN
0=1"
 and given that 1 isn't zero, we can deduce that this assterion
(x,y,z)=(f(x)=x)+(f(x)≠x)±(<1/≥1)
is false by reductio ad absurdum.
Unless we are looking at the current model of the universe upside down and in pieces.
"f(x)" is like balancing an equation on a teeter-totter
"(0=1)OR(0≠0)" is like balancing an equation on a pin.
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Re: I don't know what this means... can somebody translate please?
« Reply #9 on: 17/02/2018 20:25:07 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 17/02/2018 16:07:06
Quote from: Ve9aPrim3 on 17/02/2018 15:01:57
Indefinite integral assuming all variables are real:
integral x dx = x^2/2 + constant


Absolutely true. What's the problem?

No problem... but if this is absolutely true, then 0=1, 0≠0, 1=1, 1≠-1, 0±0, 0=0, 1≠1, 1=-1, 1±1... All True.
Because putting f(x)=x into wolfram..something gave me that integral... And I don't know what an integral is.

I just pictured equations being balanced differently I guess.
1=1
1≠-1
1±1
All these mean the same to me.
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Re: I don't know what this means... can somebody translate please?
« Reply #10 on: 17/02/2018 21:10:17 »
Quote from: Ve9aPrim3 on 17/02/2018 20:25:07
putting f(x)=x into wolfram..something gave me that integral... And I don't know what an integral is.
That’s fairly obvious

Quote from: Ve9aPrim3 on 17/02/2018 20:25:07
I just pictured equations being balanced differently I guess.
1=1
1≠-1
1±1
All these mean the same to me.
Neither do you know maths.

Posting outside of New Theories will be taken as trolling and a ban, understand? Last warning.
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Re: I don't know what this means... can somebody translate please?
« Reply #11 on: 18/02/2018 09:26:40 »
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