[Bored chemist]

You can't have your cake and eat it. Either the winter minimum has increased (which I have observed) or recent trends in climate change are a myth. 

Or you don't understand that global warming can include local cooling or heating.
This isn't "having my cake and eating it", it is realising that the system is complicated.

[alancalverd]

Quote from: MarkPawelek on Yesterday at 10:54:46
But models don't describe the real world.
Yes they do.
That's the point.

Then why does the ice core record look the way it does, with cyclic, pre-human
very sharp increases in global temperature (over 5 - 10,000 years) followed by slow decreases (over 100,000 years),
consistent maxima and minima,
CO2 levels following, not leading, the temperature graph, and
volcanic dust levels not correlating with said changes in CO2.

Either the data is wrong, or the model is wrong. One of these alternatives is a scientific statement.

[Bored chemist]

"the data is wrong" is quite a common scientific statement.

One of my colleagues built a water calorimeter - rather less portable device but clearly worth directly measuring the quantity of interest rather than trying to derive it. Problem was that the water calorimeter generally measured about 3% less than the graphite calorimeter, though both were calibrated to  ± 0.01%

or the model is wrong.

All models are wrong, some models are useful.

[Petrochemicals]

Not me. The meteorological office.  https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/climate/maps-and-data/uk-climate-extremes

You can't have your cake and eat it. Either the winter minimum has increased (which I have observed) or recent trends in climate change are a myth. 

Has it done so yet? You implied earlier that people had died in the UK as a result of extreme cold caused by increased CO2, when all the data suggests that we have experienced very few low-temperature excursions, and none that might be classed as extreme, in the last 40 years.

I'm sure your argument is entirely logical and based on recorded facts as always, but both the logic and the data elude me.

Screenshot_20220509_192853_com.android.chrome.jpg (304.24 kB . 1920x1200 - viewed 2095 times)Its bound to be better record keeping, in a similar way to the monitoring of hurricanes. Either that or there is some hitherto unrecognised fluctuation in temperature for reasons that are not understood, such as solar flairs or dinosaur overlords running solar shielding from UFOs. The earth is getting warmer, it has been getting warmer for 10,000 years.