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Is Mathematics Unintuitive?

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Re: Is Mathematics Unintuitive?
« Reply #20 on: 31/07/2022 16:04:58 »
Now, because you mean that intuition has nothing to do with reality but with "the inability to proove" (this is almost true, because the ability to proove say this is not intuitiv, but the inability to proove is not everytime inuntuitiv, it can also be "bullshit"). :

Proove me the reality.

Haha, what a laught again (i am laughting a lot because i see you like to laught...)
Because of course you can not prove reality and this is what intuition and reality have in common, the intuition is part of reality , it is not what you think of the reality (the representation).
But if you act in an unintuitiv manner, like mathematic, physic etc, all science in fact (mathematic is not "natural" science but it is analog to science), you can use representation of reality and not only use the raw expression of the reality within the mind.

But of course you are able to have some intuitiv "personal proof" (for yourself) of the raw reality because you can experience it, like everybody does.
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Re: Is Mathematics Unintuitive?
« Reply #21 on: 07/08/2022 15:35:40 »


Quote from: Deecart on 31/07/2022 16:01:48
Quote from: Colin2B on 30/07/2022 06:05:21
Intuitive has nothing to do with reality. Intuitive means not requiring proof and much of maths is intuitive.
You are totaly wrong.
Intuitive is the adjective related to intuition. 
Well, I can’t be totally wrong because this was never in dispute.
What is in dispute is the OP’s assertion that all maths is unintuitive.

Quote from: Deecart on 31/07/2022 16:01:48
Intuition is a faculty some sentient beings use to do some "calculation" without be able to express how they did the "calculation"

I beg to differ.
The Cambridge dictionary defines intuitive as:
“Being based on feelings rather than facts or proof”
 “Able to know or understand something because of feelings rather than facts or proof”
“Easy to use or learn without any special knowledge”

So it has nothing to do with performing calculations, but on feelings. Feelings vary from person to person, so what is intuitive to me might not seem so to you. Either you understand maths or you don’t.
Neither has it to do with what is real. If I imagine meeting a unicorn in a woodland glade, I might (where I a virgin in flowing white) intuitively know how to ride the beast; but unicorns are not real (neither is my imagined virginity).
Many aspects of maths are intuitive even to children. Show a child a sum 1+3=? and they will intuitively know that the answer is neither 1 nor 3; they intuitively understand the principle of a+b=c.
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