The Naked Scientists
  • Login
  • Register
  • Podcasts
      • The Naked Scientists
      • eLife
      • Naked Genetics
      • Naked Astronomy
      • In short
      • Naked Neuroscience
      • Ask! The Naked Scientists
      • Question of the Week
      • Archive
      • Video
      • SUBSCRIBE to our Podcasts
  • Articles
      • Science News
      • Features
      • Interviews
      • Answers to Science Questions
  • Get Naked
      • Donate
      • Do an Experiment
      • Science Forum
      • Ask a Question
  • About
      • Meet the team
      • Our Sponsors
      • Site Map
      • Contact us

User menu

  • Login
  • Register
  • Home
  • Help
  • Search
  • Tags
  • Recent Topics
  • Login
  • Register
  1. Naked Science Forum
  2. Life Sciences
  3. Plant Sciences, Zoology & Evolution
  4. Why aren't leaves black?
« previous next »
  • Print
Pages: [1]   Go Down

Why aren't leaves black?

  • 5 Replies
  • 12597 Views
  • 0 Tags

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Bert Latamore

  • Guest
Why aren't leaves black?
« on: 06/06/2009 17:30:01 »
Bert Latamore asked the Naked Scientists:
   
Why are leaves green? Theoretically they should be black to maximize energy absorption for photosynthesis.

Bert Latamore

What do you think?
Logged
 



Offline Chemistry4me

  • Naked Science Forum King!
  • ******
  • 7705
  • Activity:
    0%
  • Thanked: 2 times
  • Best Answer
  • Why aren't leaves black?
    « Reply #1 on: 07/06/2009 00:24:16 »
    Good question, I think the answer is because the chlorophyll pigment is green. Also maybe the leaf might get too hot and burn up if it was black. But don't just take my word for it...
    Logged
     

    Offline RD

    • Naked Science Forum GOD!
    • *******
    • 9094
    • Activity:
      0%
    • Thanked: 163 times
  • Best Answer
  • Why aren't leaves black?
    « Reply #2 on: 07/06/2009 00:41:57 »
    http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=2993.0
    Logged
     

    lyner

    • Guest
  • Best Answer
  • Why aren't leaves black?
    « Reply #3 on: 09/06/2009 14:26:29 »
    Along with the rest of us, plants have a problem with thermal energy balance. Overheating can be a serious problem for some of them, so reflecting the light of wavelengths they don't need makes sense.
    Logged
     

    Offline Madidus_Scientia

    • Naked Science Forum King!
    • ******
    • 1451
    • Activity:
      0%
    • Thanked: 1 times
  • Best Answer
  • Why aren't leaves black?
    « Reply #4 on: 09/06/2009 18:39:04 »
    Plants don't use the heat to photosynthesise, but rather the photons themselves interact with molecules in chlorophyll to cause an electron to jump to a higher energy level, which then allows a chemical reaction to occur. So there's no use in the leaves being black to absorb more heat, as it's only these interactions that matter in photosynthesis. And I would suppose that the green wavelength of light is the least likely to interact in this way, so it wouldn't be absorbed by the plant as much as the other wavelengths.
    « Last Edit: 09/06/2009 18:42:17 by Madidus_Scientia »
    Logged
     



    Offline Don_1

    • Naked Science Forum King!
    • ******
    • 6889
    • Activity:
      0%
    • Thanked: 15 times
    • A stupid comment for every occasion.
      • Knight Light Haulage
  • Best Answer
  • Why aren't leaves black?
    « Reply #5 on: 10/06/2009 08:55:33 »
    There are very few plants with black leaves or flowers. Most of those which are described as black are in fact a very deep, near black, purple.

    Black Nightshade has a near black flower.

    As for the black leaf, there is the Ipomoea batatas 'Blackie', the Schefflera elegantissima, the Sambucus nigra 'Eva' (Black Elder) and the Ophiopogon planiscapus 'Nigrescens' (Black Lilyturf) which has a very deep coloured leaf which turns black in full strong sunlight.


    Black Lilyturf (Ophiopogon planiscapus 'Nigrescens')
    Picture from Shrubland Park Nurseries http://www.shrublandparknurseries.co.uk/shop/index.php

    Here is an abstract from a study of the Black Lilyturf, which is not, as the name suggests, a grass.

    Quote from:  Functional Plant Biology
    Black-pigmented leaves occur only rarely in nature, possibly because their efficiency of light capture for photosynthesis is low. Using near-isogenic morphs of black- and green-leafed Ophiopogon planiscapus Nakai ‘Nigrescens’, we tested the possibility that black pigmentation restricts the transmission of PAR within the leaf. We measured chromaticity coordinates of black and green leaf phenotypes, quantified their pigments and optical properties, and followed the transmission profiles of red, blue and green light through lamina tissues. Chroma and lightness values for the black leaves were comparable to those of a black paint standard, and were lower than those for the green phenotype, or for green and anthocyanic leaves of three other species. The adaxial surface of black leaves absorbed 95% incident quanta, and reflected 4% across the entire 400–700 nm waveband. There were no obvious structural differences between black and green leaves. Black coloration correlated with luxuriant concentrations of both chlorophylls and anthocyanins in superficial mesophyll. Profiles of transmission of red and blue light were similar in green and black leaves. In contrast, green light was restricted to uppermost palisade mesophyll layers in black leaves, but was transmitted to more central mesophyll in green leaves.
    Source: CSIRO Publishing http://www.publish.csiro.au/paper/FP06220.htm
    Logged
    If brains were made of dynamite, I wouldn't have enough to blow my nose.
     



    • Print
    Pages: [1]   Go Up
    « previous next »
    Tags:
     
    There was an error while thanking
    Thanking...
    • SMF 2.0.15 | SMF © 2017, Simple Machines
      Privacy Policy
      SMFAds for Free Forums
    • Naked Science Forum ©

    Page created in 0.91 seconds with 39 queries.

    • Podcasts
    • Articles
    • Get Naked
    • About
    • Contact us
    • Advertise
    • Privacy Policy
    • Subscribe to newsletter
    • We love feedback

    Follow us

    cambridge_logo_footer.png

    ©The Naked Scientists® 2000–2017 | The Naked Scientists® and Naked Science® are registered trademarks created by Dr Chris Smith. Information presented on this website is the opinion of the individual contributors and does not reflect the general views of the administrators, editors, moderators, sponsors, Cambridge University or the public at large.