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It's false, the pressure come from the springs not the air. Each spring attract a ball to the bottom (like gravity can do with a molecule of water).

No , all you are saying is take a container and place some springs and balls in it, that create a pressure on the container walls, by the springs actions, this action has no movement of the springs, kinetic energy can not be gained without movement, your springs and balls are stationary, your device has no mechanism to produce torque or kinetic energy.

You are mistaking that the only thing your containment walls are doing is supporting you springs.

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There are movements: the arms turns at w.

The arms do not turn, what makes the arm turn?   alls I see is that you have suspended a useless box on a crane design,

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I turn the arms before to apply the forces of springs (imagine the springs can be set ON/OFF when I want).

so you are trying to re-invent a wind up watch and are asking if this will work?

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I'm not sure you understood the device

I think you might be correct, I have no idea of how you intend to make the sphere rotate by using the force of springs and to continue the rotation of the sphere over coming the problem of inertia.  You say that the pressure of the springs on the surface of the sphere? will create a torque, that in turn will some how turn the sphere over coming the spheres inertia?   


The Fn will always remain at 0 from the springs pressure, any more than 0 and the pressure will buckle the containment of the springs breaking the device, the density of the containment is pretty useless if it is not equal to containing the springs and keeping the Fn at 0.

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your diagrams make no sense, you explanation of the process makes no sense, your box with springs will not transfer a torque to the center mass.  if you want to be taken seriously you would need to create mechanical design blueprints of each component/part of the device. With attached maths.

A rough idea is not an idea. anyone can just sketch an outline to an idea.

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you can easily see how this works

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The first image is a cutting view and the second the top view.

And if I want only one torque on the gyroscope I need to have 4 containers. 2 containers give a torque to the sphere only. I add stems (didn't draw) that can cancel forces on the from the surfaces of the containers:

you are obviously fixated with your idea and are not hearing  anything but yourself.  Your balls and springs will not do anything but sit there.  please provide a diagram of your spring layout.

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The first image is a cutting view and the second the top view.

And if I want only one torque on the gyroscope I need to have 4 containers. 2 containers give a torque to the sphere only. I add stems (didn't draw) that can cancel forces on the from the surfaces of the containers:

you are obviously fixated with your idea and are not hearing  anything but yourself.  Your balls and springs will not do anything but sit there.  please provide a diagram of your spring layout.

It's not easy to explain, and before draw a complex diagram try to understand the container can have a torque from the pressure of balls:


1/ At top, you're agree that there is no force ?
2/ At bottom, you're agree that there is no force because balls give forces from pressure and the springs cancel these forces, sure there is more surface at bottom than the volume of balls I attract so I attract the sphere too, and I attract the sphere to cancel all the force at bottom
3/ At left there are the forces from pressure, I didn't draw all forces but only three, Fex1, Fex2, Fex3 and sure at right there are -Fex1, -Fex2, -Fex3 these forces cancel themselves but like there is the sphere there are more forces at left than at right. So there is a torque on the container, do you agree with that ?

are you trying to put some ''beads'' on a shaft with a spring separating them, forcing the ''beads'' to push against the containment wall?  and the shaft runs through the container into a sphere?