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Similarities in mystical theology & science
« on: 09/02/2019 00:59:01 »
Prolegomenon to the study of the similarities in mystical theology and science

http://gamahucherpress.yellowgum.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/theology.pdf

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By giving a false picture of reality via the imposition of human categories and classifications the reality we view through our conceptual intellects is merely the shifting phantasmorgia of our words mere bubbles of words casting shadows over our minds and rendering reality falsely. Through our minds clouded over with words we overlay the real with fictions of our minds mere phantasms of our imaginings. A world of word play a mere deception of our word chattering minds. Forms of illusion as ephemeral and as insubstantial as the multi-refracting colours shimmering and dancing through the vapors enveloping a waterfall 

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Mystical theology and science share a common understanding in regard
to the limitations and hindrance of language in unlocking reality. Both
would agree that language falsifies reality. It falsifies it by imposing
limits to the real. It falsifies it by imposing human categories and
classifications to the real. For both realities is beyond words and
human concepts. Reality transcends language. Language in fact hinders
a true understanding of the real. What language do
es is create what the Hindus’ call Maya. Namely a conventional reality based upon language
-a world of appearances and forms of illusion or deception generated
by a falsifying language which an unenlightened mind takes as the only
reality. For the physicist Bohr language is a barrier to understanding
reality Dante like Lao Tzu, Pseudo-Dionysius St Augustine (354-430),
St Thomas Aquinas (1225-74) Zen and many forms of Eastern
mysticism knew the simultaneousinapplicability and inevitability of
human language when talking of reality or God and his attributes and
domains. Whether the reality as investigated by scien
ce is really just another name for God or the reality
investigated by science is just a reality and not the God of religion.
In other words is God just another name for reality or is reality just anot
her name for God is by the by. What is important is this reality/God as understood by both science and theology is beyond the ability of human language –and thus intellect to
grasp 

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Heisenberg notes that “ the strangest experience of those years was that the
paradoxes of quantum theory did not disappear during this process of
clarification; on the contrary they have become even more marked and
exciting.”

In regard to the paradoxes and contradictions of quantum theory Wick state
the orthodox view when he says “here my opinion of the orthodox quantum
mechanics, like Bohr, comes down to the meaning of words. “Classical” and
“complementarity”, insult and commendation, are euphemisms; the belief
concealed is that Nature has been found in a contradiction

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Nicholas of Cusa states “... needful to enter the darkness and to admit the
coincidence of opposites beyond all grasp of reason ... [God] art found
unveiled is girt around with the coincidence of contradictories ... the door
whereof is guarded by the most proud spirit if reason and unless he be
vanquished the way in will not lie open”

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To some Buddhists “... logic and meaning, with its inherent duality, is a
property of thought and language but not the actual world”

“... all our knowledge is what a Taoist would call conventional knowledge,
because we do not feel that we know anything unless we represent it to
ourselves in words, or in some system of conventional signs as the notation
of mathematics..

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“Beatrice’s caution about extending human concepts beyond the horizon of
sense-experience in which we learn them applies not only to such terms as
“long” “white” and “beard” but- more challengingly to such terms like “just”
or “love” which may be as we say “abstract” but which we have nonetheless
abstracted from our experience in this earthly world”

“Dante could have learned from St Augustine (354-430) as from St Thomas
Aquinas (1225-74) about the simultaneous inapplicability and inevitability
of such “human terms” and specifically of physical language and imagery
when talking of God his attributes and domains. “

As Zajak notes “
particles and waves are macroscopic concepts which
gradually lose their relevance as we approach the submicroscopic
domain.”
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