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Does one have to be a paedophile AND sociopath in order to commit such crimes?

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Offline Pseudoscience-is-malarkey (OP)

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Does one have to be a paedophile AND sociopath in order to commit such crimes?
« on: 01/01/2022 13:58:22 »
You brits have a term "virtuous paedophile" for people with the desire, but possess convictions that prevent them from hurting a child.
« Last Edit: 03/01/2022 19:38:41 by chris »
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Re: Does one have to be a paedophile AND sociopath in order to commit such crimes?
« Reply #1 on: 01/01/2022 15:16:23 »
Never heard the term, but who am I to judge? I only live here. Unless you mean "virtual", which is linguistically correct but legally meaningless as everyone is a virtual anything.

Probably not a good idea to use "convictions" in this context either. You can't get a conviction if you haven't done anything.

Anyway as I see it a sociopath is someone who has no subsequent remorse, so the two terms are not necessarily dependent.
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Re: Does one have to be a paedophile AND sociopath in order to commit such crimes?
« Reply #2 on: 01/01/2022 16:08:35 »
Quote from: Pseudoscience-is-malarkey on 01/01/2022 13:58:22
You brits have a term "virtuous paedophile"
Do we?
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Re: Does one have to be a paedophile AND sociopath in order to commit such crimes?
« Reply #3 on: 01/01/2022 23:26:52 »
Quote from: Pseudoscience-is-malarkey on 01/01/2022 13:58:22
You brits have a term "virtuous paedophile" for people with the desire, but possess convictions that prevent them from hurting a child.
Never heard of it. Is this something else you’ve made up or are you thinking of some other country?
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Re: Does one have to be a paedophile AND sociopath in order to commit such crimes?
« Reply #4 on: 02/01/2022 10:09:25 »
Quote from: alancalverd
You can't get a conviction if you haven't done anything.
Someone found with lots of child porn on their computer/browsing history shows that their drive for gratification exceeds:
- Respect/empathy for the children involved
- And their respect for the law/society as a whole

That is enough to indicate a dangerous individual; one that you would not describe as "virtuous".
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Re: Does one have to be a paedophile AND sociopath in order to commit such crimes?
« Reply #5 on: 02/01/2022 12:57:49 »
Apparent lack of respect or empathy may increase a sentence or label somebody as a risk, but is not in general a crime in itself. Possession of offensive material, however, is an offence, and the Crown Prosecution Service  considers a range of pornography to be  sufficiently offensive to carry a high probability of conviction.
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