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Simply because life is aqueous chemistry.
That opening page looks suspiciously familiar, and not in a good way. Can the mods look at IP addresses or whatever and see if it's someone we know?Anyway, life as we know it only exists in water, but that's to be expected on a planet 2/3 of which is covered with water.Looking at the chemistry, the most likely other plausible solvent for life of some sort is (liquid) ammonia.But the physics of water includes as useful trick. It expands when it freezes.That means that lakes freeze from the top down.So, if the place you are looking at gets cold enough to have "frost" in "winter" the life will run out of liquid to live in unless that liquid is water.The idea of silicon based life forms includes some interesting science fiction. But it's more fiction than science.
Cart before horse! Life as we know it is an inevitable consequence of water, thanks to the hydrogen bond which determines the chemistry of life and the physics (see BC's comment on ice) that allows it to happen on wet planets.Whilst polymeric silicon compounds can mimic the structure of many simple carbon compounds, I'm not aware of any that allow for the sterically-determined hydrogen bonds that are essential for replication of DNA.
There was a guy called wellwisher from a couple of years ago (can't remember which site) that would ramble on and on about water and life like it was some mystery. The guy also had a terrible understanding about QM and hated the idea that statistics was involved in the calculations. It sounds like the same guy.So welcome back wellwisher, I figured you died or something since as I recall you're an old fart (like myself).
I believe it is to do with waters extremley high specific heat capacity and it being extremley abundent, it allows the regulation of the planet. Trouble is that when the water regulates the planet this energy transfer can be extremley problematic. You can ask what's so special about carbon, which it is.
.The DNA double helix can take up several conformations (for example, right-handed A-DNA pitch 28.2 ? 11 bp, B-DNA pitch 34 ? 10 bp, C-DNA pitch 31 ? 9.33 bp, D-DNA pitch 24.2 ? 8 bp, and the left-handed Z-DNA pitch 43? 12 bp) with differing hydration. The predominant natural DNA, B-DNA, has a wide and deep major groove and a narrow and deep minor groove and requires the greatest hydration. Lowering the hydration (for example, by adding ethanol) may cause transitions from B-DNA to A-DNA [2784] to Z-DNA.
Quote from: Origin on 09/05/2025 20:50:50There was a guy called wellwisher from a couple of years ago (can't remember which site) that would ramble on and on about water and life like it was some mystery. The guy also had a terrible understanding about QM and hated the idea that statistics was involved in the calculations. It sounds like the same guy.So welcome back wellwisher, I figured you died or something since as I recall you're an old fart (like myself).Nice to see you again. I have been evolving my ideas and found my seams. Now my understanding of QM uses the applied science paradox of entropy; determinacy glued together by indeterminacy. I had been arguing from the order or State side, while QM argued more from the disorder aside. But now I understand you need both sides of the paradox, and then everything clicks. What I added to my water model is applied science entropy and a new physic model. Quote from: Petrochemicals on 09/05/2025 23:55:01I believe it is to do with waters extremley high specific heat capacity and it being extremley abundent, it allows the regulation of the planet. Trouble is that when the water regulates the planet this energy transfer can be extremley problematic. You can ask what's so special about carbon, which it is.Water is unique on the earth, in that it is the only natural material that exists as three phases at the same time on earth. The poles are ice, we have the oceans of liquid water and the atmosphere gas. In thunderstorms we can get gas, liquid and solid all together. The liquid state of the oceans and water's huge heat capacity, keeps the earth cool. If we had no oceans the earth's temperature would be about 50C and not its current 15C. On the hand, water vapor in the atmosphere, acts as a greenhouse gas, that can trap heat. If the earth has no water at all, including the atmosphere, the earth would be -18C instead of 15C. The poles which are solid water or ice, reflect solar heat. As an ice age approaches and the surface area of snow/ice increases, this solar reflection will amplify the cooling. While melting of the polar Ice caps, reduces the reflected heat, so the earth will warm faster. Weather is primarily based on the phase transitions of water; usually but not always between gas and liquid and liquid to gas. When liquid water is evaporated by the sun, the gas adds a partial pressure to the atmosphere; higher pressure. This is because we get about 1100 times volume change, going from liquid to gas. When it condenses as rain, the reverse volume changes pulls a vacuum; low pressure system. When we have a hurricane, and lots of water is condensing, the vacuum can become large, with that vacuum pulling in air and more moisture. The thunderstorms in hurricanes, are built up by rising warm moist air, As they get higher in the cooler upper atmosphere, condensation speeds up and amplifies the vacuum; vacuum up even more warm moist air as tornados. This change from vapor to liquid involves countless water based hydrogen bonds which plays a role in the huge state called the hurricane. This is a unique stable state, but on a timeline. Water can organize hurricanes 200-500 km wide, as well as tiny cells that are 10 to 100 micron wide by similar integrating approaches.
Quote from: Wellwisher on 10/05/2025 16:01:03Quote from: Origin on 09/05/2025 20:50:50There was a guy called wellwisher from a couple of years ago (can't remember which site) that would ramble on and on about water and life like it was some mystery. The guy also had a terrible understanding about QM and hated the idea that statistics was involved in the calculations. It sounds like the same guy.So welcome back wellwisher, I figured you died or something since as I recall you're an old fart (like myself).Nice to see you again. I have been evolving my ideas and found my seams. Now my understanding of QM uses the applied science paradox of entropy; determinacy glued together by indeterminacy. I had been arguing from the order or State side, while QM argued more from the disorder aside. But now I understand you need both sides of the paradox, and then everything clicks. What I added to my water model is applied science entropy and a new physic model. Quote from: Petrochemicals on 09/05/2025 23:55:01I believe it is to do with waters extremley high specific heat capacity and it being extremley abundent, it allows the regulation of the planet. Trouble is that when the water regulates the planet this energy transfer can be extremley problematic. You can ask what's so special about carbon, which it is.Water is unique on the earth, in that it is the only natural material that exists as three phases at the same time on earth. The poles are ice, we have the oceans of liquid water and the atmosphere gas. In thunderstorms we can get gas, liquid and solid all together. The liquid state of the oceans and water's huge heat capacity, keeps the earth cool. If we had no oceans the earth's temperature would be about 50C and not its current 15C. On the hand, water vapor in the atmosphere, acts as a greenhouse gas, that can trap heat. If the earth has no water at all, including the atmosphere, the earth would be -18C instead of 15C. The poles which are solid water or ice, reflect solar heat. As an ice age approaches and the surface area of snow/ice increases, this solar reflection will amplify the cooling. While melting of the polar Ice caps, reduces the reflected heat, so the earth will warm faster. Weather is primarily based on the phase transitions of water; usually but not always between gas and liquid and liquid to gas. When liquid water is evaporated by the sun, the gas adds a partial pressure to the atmosphere; higher pressure. This is because we get about 1100 times volume change, going from liquid to gas. When it condenses as rain, the reverse volume changes pulls a vacuum; low pressure system. When we have a hurricane, and lots of water is condensing, the vacuum can become large, with that vacuum pulling in air and more moisture. The thunderstorms in hurricanes, are built up by rising warm moist air, As they get higher in the cooler upper atmosphere, condensation speeds up and amplifies the vacuum; vacuum up even more warm moist air as tornados. This change from vapor to liquid involves countless water based hydrogen bonds which plays a role in the huge state called the hurricane. This is a unique stable state, but on a timeline. Water can organize hurricanes 200-500 km wide, as well as tiny cells that are 10 to 100 micron wide by similar integrating approaches. That's pretty much what I said. But the problems is that the thermoregulation of the planet means that more water is in the atmosphere and sea levels can rise.