[DoctorBeaver]

Twa pygmies have large buttocks too. They live in the forests on the Uganda/Zaire (now the Democratic Republic of the Congo) border. If I remember correctly, they are hunter/gatherers and only come into the towns to trade for cultivated products. I didn't get to that part of the country very often so I don't know a great deal more about them.

[miriam0920 (OP)]

BC, its okay to contradict what I write, but lets keep name calling away from the discussion.  Just because you have a different opinion then I, doesn't mean you need to offend me.  I don't parrot thing because I am not a bird.  Saying I repeat nonsense is inappropriate.  Just because you studied chemistry doesn't mean you know all the meaning and can interpret all what's going around the world.  Probably you skip Behaviour Manners 101.  If what I wrote was not to your agreement a little "Miriam please make sure you know all the fact before coming to a conclusion," would sound better than what you initially wrote.  You're not only a bored chemist but a bitter one too.

Blake thank you for the information. 

[Bored chemist]

Miriam, I don't think it's good manners to keep posting nonsense about canola on a scientific website after it has been made quite clear to you that it is nonsense. For what it's worth, would you have been as offended if I had used the word "copied" rather than "parrotted"?
What about "aped"?

Have you st opped eating potatoes and apples?

Do you think the men with cellulite don't understand what it's like?

[Madidus_Scientia]

You're not only a bored chemist but a bitter one too.

All he's done is critically analyse your claims, which is to be expected on a science forum. Unfortunately some people take being shown to be wrong as some sort of personal attack. So instead of replying with an Ad-hominem attack, why not retort on the actual points of argument?

[blakestyger]

The problem with communication like this is that in normal face-to-face conversation 70% of the message is non-verbal, so that in forum dialogue we only get 30% of the message - therein lies misunderstanding.

[Madidus_Scientia]

Body language and the tone of your voice etc. is indeed an important factor in communicating face-to-face, but I reckon this would apply more to general conversation/socializing rather than this kind of debate style of conversation wouldn't it? Face-to-face, you could perhaps get the same message across without thinking about your wording so much, but this format has the advantage that you have time to think about how to best articulate your message to get it across coherently.

[blakestyger]

Good point, I agree. But it's predicated on people taking the time to do that - I don't mean this pejoratively - but not all contributors read what they've put before they press the post button!

[DoctorBeaver]

Face-to-face you can whack them with a monkfish if they argue!  []

[miriam0920 (OP)]

I do eat potatoes and apples because they grow naturally.  I use Olive oil because they come from the olive tree, I use corn oil because it comes from the corn, what I don't use is Canola oil that comes from rapeseeds.  Men gets cellulite but not as much as women, that what I meant when I wrote it.   
Have a nice day. 

[Madidus_Scientia]

What do you mean by potatoes and apples grow naturally, how to they grow different from rapeseed?

[Bored chemist]

Do you realise that appple seeds contain cyanide and that potatoes contain solanine? These are poisonous plants.

The plants that canola is produced from are essentially free of the toxic components so why is it differeent from apples or spuds?

[lyner]

[quote[The plants that canola is produced from[/quote]
Just been listening to Radio 4 on correct grammar.
 You should say "The plants from which canola is produced"  if you really want to dump on someone with a clincher argument.
That is behaviour up with which I do not put.
I fully support your argument, though.

[miriam0920 (OP)]

Debating online through forums and websites you need to be careful not to put words that can be offensive.  I am very respectful regardless if you know me or not, if you can see my face or not.  I like to learn something new each day, and share with people what I've learn. At the end they will come to their own conclusions.  I like this website because I assume we are all professionals.  I am professional in my field and BC is professional in his field.  Maybe he knows more than me in the process of ions,cations, anions,chemical reactions, equations, and all of that. (I have a degree in Liberal Arts).  I'm trying to complete a degree in Chemistry cause science is my true passion.   

[miriam0920 (OP)]

Do you realise that appple seeds contain cyanide? 

That is why I don't eat the seeds from the apple. I spit them out.  Or if I'm not that busy I plant them.
And I don't eat green potatoes.

[Bored chemist]

I don't understand the respect offered to a scientific website by putting forward an unevinced and inaccurate view of a technical subject by someone who knows that it's really not their field. Specifially, you said "Unfortunately, a few months later I found out he was feeding us with some rare kind of poison. " I find it offensive that someone posts rubbish like that on a scientific website.
I can also live without patronising comments like "Go to "google.com" and write Canola Oil."- particularly when it's clear that I did- that's how I found the wiki article.


How would it look if I were to make bold, yet ignorant statements on a website dedicated to the liberal arts? Would that be seen as polite?
Incidentally, if the wiki article about liberal arts is corrent in identifing them, then 4 aren't relevant to this post and you (directly or as a result of the pages you cited) got the other 3 (Grammar, Rhetoric and Logic) wrong.

I see that you have changed your standpoint from " I won't never eat something that is made out of toxic plants even it they say they clean the plant and extracted the toxin in it. 
" to " I don't eat the seeds from the apple. I spit them out.  Or if I'm not that busy I plant them. And I don't eat green potatoes."
That's a remarkabe volte face.

[miriam0920 (OP)]

BC, you are wrong in saying I have had a "volte-face."  I said I don't eat apple seeds and according to you, you are saying apple seed contain cyanide.  I eat apples but not the seeds.  Also, you say potatoes contain solanine.  But it's said to be potatoes that have been extremely exposed to the sun which causes the potatoes to have a greenish color indicating higher doses of this toxin.  By the way, what makes you so sure that the information is rubbish?  Just because you read it in wiki? Do you believe in the Big Bang theory?  What makes you so sure that really happened? Because we learn by reading, we learn that things by listening to our teachers. You believe what they say, because don't tell me everybody in this planet living today were there when the Big Bag happened?  Scientists around the world have different point of views, they discuss this and that, and write articles about there findings.  I can come here and discuss whatever I want and read everybody's opinion.  I don't see nothing wrong with that.  This is I believe a forum?

BC, yes, you have made me change my mind about something, not the Canola oil, you haven't succeed in that.  But you have changed my mind about participating in a forum where certain people think they know it all.

Enjoy your day!

[iko]

Hi Miriam0920,

I think you are right about respect and moderation.
Let me add that olive oil plus codliver oil is the magic formula! []
Nice to read that you are not bored and that Science is your true passion.
Take care

ikod

[Bored chemist]

Why am I wrong in saying that you have changed from "I won't never eat something that is made out of toxic plants" to "And I don't eat green potatoes."?
Since potatoes (green or otherwise) are from a toxic plant you have changed your mind.
The stuff you posted is still here for anyone to read.

"By the way, what makes you so sure that the information is rubbish? "
Because they say things like rapeseed oil contains mustard gas. Totally impossible, and you seem not to have noticed that I pointed out where mustad gas is made.

"Do you believe in the Big Bang theory?  What makes you so sure that really happened?"
Yes, I do, because there is evidence for it. That's the point of science.
By the way, did you not notice when I pointed out that I had actually seen the analysis (done by a colleague of mine) of rapeseed oil. Don't you think that counts for more than "I put a phrase into google"?
"Scientists around the world have different point of views, they discuss this and that, and write articles about there findings. "
There are not many scientists who don't believe in the big bang, but that hasn't got a lot to do with the point.

[lyner]

Two alternative views are not necessarily equally valid. I would normally go for the one with more evidence behind it rather than the one with more 'emotion' behind it.

[Madidus_Scientia]

I like this website because I assume we are all professionals.  I am professional in my field and BC is professional in his field.  Maybe he knows more than me in the process of ions,cations, anions,chemical reactions, equations, and all of that. (I have a degree in Liberal Arts).  I'm trying to complete a degree in Chemistry cause science is my true passion.

If science is your true passion then the first thing you should learn about is the scientific method, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method