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« on: 16/05/2009 17:37:41 »
Press Association
Saturday 16th May 2009

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Neighbours of a 66-year-old woman who is soon to become Britain's oldest mother have described their shock at news of her pregnancy.

Elizabeth Adeney, 66, of Lidgate, Suffolk, is reported to be about eight months pregnant after undergoing IVF treatment abroad.

She is four years older than the country's previous oldest mother.

Most British clinics will not offer the treatment to women over the age of 50.
http://www.pressassociation.com/component/pafeeds/2009/05/16/shock_at_pregnancy_of_woman_66?camefrom=home

The baby will be just like her mother: wrinkled and toothless   [:)]

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« Reply #1 on: 17/05/2009 00:58:56 »
Hmmm...[:-X] I don't know whether to feel happy or sad for her and the baby.

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« Reply #2 on: 17/05/2009 01:50:34 »
I'm all for personal choice.. however I think there needs to be responsible limits put on some things.

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« Reply #3 on: 17/05/2009 10:20:11 »
At the risk of stating the obvious, when baby is a teenager mummy will be in her 80s, (or pushing up daisies).

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« Reply #4 on: 17/05/2009 18:13:05 »
Although it seems far from ideal, at least the baby/child/person will actually exist.  What is worse; to exist in less than ideal circumstances, or not to exist at all?
...And its claws are as big as cups, and for some reason it's got a tremendous fear of stamps! And Mrs Doyle was telling me it's got magnets on its tail, so if you're made out of metal it can attach itself to you! And instead of a mouth it's got four arses!

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« Reply #5 on: 17/05/2009 18:27:27 »
Perhaps becoming a foster parent to a primary school age child would have been a more humane and ecologically sound way of becoming a parent* at 66 than introducing another child to an overcrowded world, whom she is likely be become unable to care for due to old age (and death). 

[* bear in mind that her child is conceived from a donor egg so is not genetically related to its "mother": it is genetically equivalent to a fostered/adopted child]
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« Reply #6 on: 17/05/2009 18:51:13 »
Although it seems far from ideal, at least the baby/child/person will actually exist.  What is worse; to exist in less than ideal circumstances, or not to exist at all?

That question seems more applicable to something that already exists.

But this particular baby has been engineered to exist. There was a choice as to whether to create this baby or not - when the choice is to create a baby that will exist in less than ideal circumstances or to not create the baby at all, then I would suggest the latter would be the most sensible option.

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« Reply #7 on: 17/05/2009 19:48:00 »
My Aunty Elsie had a baby when she was 42. My Uncle was 45. They coped when the child was young but when he was a teenager and being bullied at school and getting into fights they really struggled. Most people would be waving the kids off to university and retiring but they were still expending energy worrying about a young man. I can't imagine having enough energy now for a small child, Freddy wears me out and he is 12. How the hell would you cope at 66. MAD!
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« Reply #8 on: 17/05/2009 20:44:50 »
Got to be honest, I can't imagine coping at any age. The thought of it terrifies me half to death.

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« Reply #9 on: 18/05/2009 21:10:37 »
It has given me grey hair and a heart murmur!
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« Reply #10 on: 18/05/2009 22:49:38 »
And you have given me a heart murmmer.

Be still my beating heart!

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« Reply #11 on: 18/05/2009 23:40:46 »
Get dqwn shep.
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« Reply #12 on: 19/05/2009 03:33:02 »
I must say I can understand the need to fulfill that part of your life..as a woman..I loved baring and caring for my children andwould do it al again..I was exceptionally happy when pregnant and Do I also need to say that it is the most incredible experience given to a human being ...baring carrying a new life inside of your body.. amazing and I would do it again if I could that is of course my opinion. Always wished that my husband would have loved to experience it.

 Congratulations to her..Is this her first child?

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« Reply #13 on: 19/05/2009 10:53:09 »
Congratulations to her..Is this her first child?

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Elizabeth Adeney, who is four years older than the current record holder, is around eight months pregnant with what is thought to be her first child.

The divorcee travelled abroad [Ukraine] to undergo IVF treatment because most British fertility clinics will not offer their services to women over 50.

Mrs Adeney, a wealthy businesswoman, is said to have been "desperate" for a baby, and was "over the moon" when she discovered that she had fallen pregnant.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/5332569/66-year-old-to-become-Britains-oldest-mother.html

Isn’t this analogous to "sex tourism" ? , where the wealthy travel to relatively poor countries to gratify their biological urges.

If a 66 year old man was “desperate” for a 20 year old girlfriend would it be OK for him to travel to Ukraine to buy one ?
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« Reply #14 on: 19/05/2009 20:42:37 »
Madonna, say no more.
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« Reply #15 on: 20/05/2009 05:59:45 »
If a 66 year old man was “desperate” for a 20 year old girlfriend would it be OK for him to travel to Ukraine to buy one ?

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« Reply #16 on: 20/05/2009 08:45:45 »
I'm sorry, but I think this is selfish. This woman, if she lives that long, will be just short of eighty when the child reaches the teens. Unless she is extremely fit, she will be unable to cope physically and will be so far removed from teenage attitude, I doubt she will have a meaningful relationship, or at least understanding, with the child.
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« Reply #17 on: 20/05/2009 12:07:31 »
It doesn't sound selfish to want to give a part of yourself to a child....I have a highschoo
 frind whose mother had her at about 60 and her brother was born 45 years before her.....
The mother was a remarkable spry women and her Daughter is an incredible talented wonderful person!

As a Mother she had plenty to offer and also as a friend to her daughter...they were both lucky children to have had that experience...They both adored their Mom and Dad!
Being out of touc with your child is not a age thing but rather  a disinterest in knowing about your children... I know many new youn parents who are so out of touch with their kids....
absolutely a parenting style and choice for parents.. who choose to stop lalearning as a parent and say...My way is the only way!
   I hope she lives through it and is a terrific Mom!

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« Reply #18 on: 20/05/2009 16:06:11 »
I was very sure that I didn't want any kids of my own, so I had my tubes tied at 41. They had to poke around in my innards anyway, so it was 2 birds with one stone.
A 66 year old mother... well I hope the best for the child and wish them both luck.
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