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Quote from: Farsight on 06/02/2010 09:35:41I hope we can all agree that the electron involves some form of rotational motion.I see it difficult to find a generalized agreement on this...
I hope we can all agree that the electron involves some form of rotational motion.
Geezer: my response would be some restatement of what I said previously about the ambiguous definition of work and the distinction between classical mechanics and relativity, so I don't think there's any more I can add.
Oh come on, JP. Go with the flow. Look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zitterbewegung: Zitterbewegung (English: "trembling motion", from German) is a theoretical rapid motion of elementary particles, in particular electrons, that obey the Dirac equation. The existence of such motion was first proposed by Erwin Schrödinger in 1930 as a result of his analysis of the wave packet solutions of the Dirac equation for relativistic electrons in free space...There's some kind of rotational motion in there, whether you consider it to be classical or not, and despite your lack of an electron model. Now, can we move on to gravitational potential energy? It's really very simple.
Geezer: in classical terms, yes. But not in terms of relativity.lightarrow: all of them. See http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/41352 "European physicists have won the race to observe zitterbewegung, the violent trembling motion of an elementary particle that was predicted by Erwin Schrödinger in 1930. To observe this phenomenon, the team simulated the behaviour of a free electron with a single, laser-manipulated calcium ion trapped in an electrodynamic cage..."