[sandstone (OP)]

Any paradigm that omits uncertainty as a key component is out of touch with our current understanding of reality in a broad sense.  The new paradigm is five-dimensional space-change, where the dimensions of change are time and uncertainty.

For example, at any point in time, human beings are both being and becoming.  It is essentially a state of continual change, however rapid or slow that change may be.   

Best wishes, Sandstone.

[JP]

I'm uncertain how I feel about having my paradigm shifted...

[sandstone (OP)]

Greetings JP,

That is a classic statement of psychological uncertainty. 
It could also be a clever piece of satire.

However, you have hit on the paradox.  The reluctance to embrace uncertainty is directly related to the uncertainty it generates.  And tolerance of uncertainty is inversely related to the level of perceived consequence. A paradigm shift is no small matter. 

But what possibilities does such a paradigm shift offer?

It is possible that physicists have made a far greater contribution to humanity than they themselves fully comprehend.

Regards, Sandstone.

[sandstone (OP)]

Recently, a respondent questioned the relevance of a reference to V. S. Alder.  As it turns out, Alder's notion of the fifth dimension is one of emergence, which ironically aligns with the paradigm five-dimensional space-change.

In similar vein, we have Heisenberg on probability waves:

'It meant a tendency for something.  It was a quantitative version of the old concept of "potentia" in Aristotelian philosophy.  It introduced something standing in the middle between the idea of an event and the actual event, a strange kind of physical reality just in the middle between possibility and reality.'

'The reality of time and change is the crux of realism'.
Karl Popper.

Wisdom has many sources. 

Regards, Sandstone. 

[Geezer]

I'm uncertain how I feel about having my paradigm shifted...

Wasn't there a song about that? I think one of the lines was

"Buddy can you pare-a-dime?"

[sandstone (OP)]

Good one Geezer,

Came across this quote in a text on strategic management the other day:

'Men like the opinions to which they have become accustomed
from youth; this prevents them from finding the truth, for they cling to the opinions of habit.'

Moses Maimonides (1135-1204)
Egyptian physician and philosopher

Regards, Sandstone.

[sandstone (OP)]

As mentioned earlier, the sources of wisdom are many. 

Some express their views more emphatically than others. 

'The old space-time model was smashed, replaced by a timeless, floating field of constant transformation.  This quantum field is not separate from us - it is us.'

Deepak Chopra,
Quantum Healing.

Five-dimensional space-change embraces this view.

Regards, Sandstone.

[JP]

Emphatically expressed BS is still BS.  Quantum mysticism is largely nonsense that uses scientific-sounding mumbo-jumbo to make money from gullible people.

[Geezer]

Emphatically expressed BS is still BS. 

I'm not sure I'd go that far JP. I've always found it to be a very effective technique.

Quantum mysticism is largely nonsense that uses scientific-sounding mumbo-jumbo to make money from gullible people.

There are a couple of very amusing observations in the latest SciAm regarding QM and Deepak Chopra.

[JP]

Geezer and a Sheepy walk into a bar.  "I've always found there are two ways to express an opinion," says Geezer, "The normal way, and the Geezer way."

"What's the difference?" asks the Sheepy.

"The Geezer way is like the normal way, only louder."

[sandstone (OP)]

Thanks JP,

That's an interesting point of view.  Were you aware that quantum healing has been used successfully in treating cancer patients?  Of note, remission is preceded by a state of psychological certainty which appears to have a direct influence on the change in metabolic state.

If you were to read widely on uncertainty you would find that it is a physical, psychological and spiritual dimension.

QM demonstrated that environmental or physical uncertainty is here to stay.  The challenge is to learn how to live with it.  The first step is to recognise for what it is ~ U=5D.

The universe is transformational at all levels.  A contemporary paradigm should reflect that.

Regards, Sandstone.

[JP]

I can conclusively tell you that quantum quantum healing doesn't work on any principles involving quantum mechanics.  I wouldn't be surprised if patients improved due to the placebo effect because they believed it could help, but you could get the same effect if they believed that a witch doctor would help them.   Quantum healing doesn't have a monopoly on the placebo effect.

It is shameful that people are willing to fabricate the idea of "quantum healing" and other "science" myscticism in order to take money from desperate, ill people.

None of this, by the way, has anything to do with uncertainty as its used in physics.  Quantum mysticism is nonsense that has nothing to do with real quantum mechanics and the uncertainty principle.

[sandstone (OP)]

JP,

QM is only one aspect of uncertainty and, indeed, the universe.

Regards, Sandstone.

[peppercorn]

QM is only one aspect of uncertainty and, indeed, the universe.

This sort of statement has absolutely no validity in the context of scientific discourse.


Sandstone, you have repeatedly avoided discussing science at all.  All scientific enquires about your theory are met with apparently random statements and quotes that have no baring on the discussion.

As a result this thread is being locked.
If you wish to re-evaluate your ideas in a way that will allow them to be scientifically explored, then by all means start a new thread.  But, be aware that continuing to use pseudo-science or non-sequiturs as 'evidence' or replies will quickly result in repeated locking of threads.