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What are the consequences of being sprayed with barium and aluminium?

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Re: What are the consequences of being sprayed with barium and aluminium?
« Reply #20 on: 03/07/2016 00:15:58 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 02/07/2016 14:59:24
No, you didn't imagine the dead bees- and nobody said you did- that's a straw man argument.
However you did imagine the idea that it is likely that the source of the aluminium in the bees is from nozzles spraying fly ash from aircraft.
And, having dreamed up that idea, you somehow came to the conclusion that it was "likely" when a better assessment would be "bloody near impossible".

Your wishful thinking certainly won't help. In reality the possibility that clandestine geoengineering activity is harming public health is being censored by our governments. You can ignore this fact but I'm confident that
the truth cannot be suppressed forever.

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. -Winston Churchill
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Re: What are the consequences of being sprayed with barium and aluminium?
« Reply #21 on: 03/07/2016 16:47:17 »
Quote from: tkadm30 on 03/07/2016 00:15:58
Quote from: Bored chemist on 02/07/2016 14:59:24
No, you didn't imagine the dead bees- and nobody said you did- that's a straw man argument.
However you did imagine the idea that it is likely that the source of the aluminium in the bees is from nozzles spraying fly ash from aircraft.
And, having dreamed up that idea, you somehow came to the conclusion that it was "likely" when a better assessment would be "bloody near impossible".

Your wishful thinking certainly won't help. In reality the possibility that clandestine geoengineering activity is harming public health is being censored by our governments. You can ignore this fact but I'm confident that
the truth cannot be suppressed forever.

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. -Winston Churchill

So, once again, no actual evidence.
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Re: What are the consequences of being sprayed with barium and aluminium?
« Reply #22 on: 03/07/2016 17:17:49 »
I suspect the increasing incidence of Alzheimer's is due to (1) increasing survival from other problems (Alzhiemer's being predominnatly a disease of old age) and (2) a greater propensity to diagnose senile dementia (which was the Big Problem of the 1960's) as Alzheimer's (whcih is much more fashionable).

Increasing Al in the biosphere is hardly surprising. It is a very reactive metal whose natural incidence is as very stable salts that take a lot of energy to refine into pure metal - very much a 20th century product following the introduction of deep drawing (beer cans and briefcases) and Tig welding (vehicles and aircraft). It returns to nature principally via the water-soluble and biologically reactive chloride and hydroxide, so it gets everywhere, but it is very debatable whether it does any actual harm en route, except possibly in the shells  of smartphones, which destroy social interaction.
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Re: What are the consequences of being sprayed with barium and aluminium?
« Reply #23 on: 04/07/2016 12:46:43 »
That must be why every time you see government officials on TV making statements they are wearing breathing aparatus.
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Re: What are the consequences of being sprayed with barium and aluminium?
« Reply #24 on: 04/07/2016 23:21:40 »
Quote from: jeffreyH on 04/07/2016 12:46:43
That must be why every time you see government officials on TV making statements they are wearing breathing aparatus.

LOL.

Chemtrails propaganda (and disinformation) is an epistemological evidence that the chemical composition of the nanoparticles have neurotoxic properties on humans: Aluminium toxicity is likely to participate to Alzheimer pathogenesis.
« Last Edit: 05/07/2016 12:12:38 by tkadm30 »
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Re: What are the consequences of being sprayed with barium and aluminium?
« Reply #25 on: 12/07/2016 21:24:17 »
CIA Director States (On Camera) His Support For Geoengineering & Spraying Particles Into The Atmosphere: http://www.collective-evolution.com/2016/07/12/cia-director-states-on-camera-his-support-for-geoengineering-spraying-particles-into-the-atmosphere/
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Re: What are the consequences of being sprayed with barium and aluminium?
« Reply #26 on: 14/07/2016 10:52:24 »
If geoengineering activity would be safe then there would be room for commercial exploitation of this technology. The evidences that clandestine geoengineering activity is potentially toxic to humans lie in the unilateral use of this technology by the U.S government.
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Re: What are the consequences of being sprayed with barium and aluminium?
« Reply #27 on: 16/07/2016 13:40:33 »
Quote from: tkadm30 on 04/07/2016 23:21:40
Quote from: jeffreyH on 04/07/2016 12:46:43
That must be why every time you see government officials on TV making statements they are wearing breathing aparatus.

LOL.

Chemtrails propaganda (and disinformation) is an epistemological evidence that the chemical composition of the nanoparticles have neurotoxic properties on humans: Aluminium toxicity is likely to participate to Alzheimer pathogenesis.
So, once again, no actual evidence of chemtrails- just stuff that might possibly be important if they existed.

« Last Edit: 16/07/2016 13:42:51 by Bored chemist »
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Re: What are the consequences of being sprayed with barium and aluminium?
« Reply #28 on: 16/07/2016 13:45:37 »
Quote from: tkadm30 on 12/07/2016 21:24:17
CIA Director States (On Camera) His Support For Geoengineering & Spraying Particles Into The Atmosphere: http://www.collective-evolution.com/2016/07/12/cia-director-states-on-camera-his-support-for-geoengineering-spraying-particles-into-the-atmosphere/
A man who isn't a scientist says that something would be a good idea- in his opinion.
Do you realise that isn't the same as saying that that "something" is happening?
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Re: What are the consequences of being sprayed with barium and aluminium?
« Reply #29 on: 16/07/2016 13:50:30 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 16/07/2016 13:40:33
So, once again, no actual evidence of contrails- just stuff that might possibly be important if they existed.

A contrail is not a chemtrail.... Please educate yourself. A chemtrail persist in the atmosphere until it dissolve with air and water to form hydroscopic cloud condensation nuclei: "The concept of cloud condensation nuclei is used in cloud seeding, that tries to encourage rainfall by seeding the air with condensation nuclei. It has further been suggested that creating such nuclei could be used for marine cloud brightening, a climate engineering technique."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_condensation_nuclei
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Re: What are the consequences of being sprayed with barium and aluminium?
« Reply #30 on: 16/07/2016 14:03:02 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 16/07/2016 13:45:37
A man who isn't a scientist says that something would be a good idea- in his opinion.
Do you realise that isn't the same as saying that that "something" is happening?

This guy is the CIA director. I think he might have a better idea of what is going on than you and me...
 
By the way, when a official from the U.S government states his support for geoengineering activity its likely
not the product from my imagination.

At some point you must connect the dots between reality and the potential effects of this activity as a scientist?
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Re: What are the consequences of being sprayed with barium and aluminium?
« Reply #31 on: 16/07/2016 14:15:35 »
Quote from: tkadm30 on 16/07/2016 13:50:30
Quote from: Bored chemist on 16/07/2016 13:40:33
So, once again, no actual evidence of contrails- just stuff that might possibly be important if they existed.

A contrail is not a chemtrail.... Please educate yourself. A chemtrail persist in the atmosphere until it dissolve with air and water to form hydroscopic cloud condensation nuclei: "The concept of cloud condensation nuclei is used in cloud seeding, that tries to encourage rainfall by seeding the air with condensation nuclei. It has further been suggested that creating such nuclei could be used for marine cloud brightening, a climate engineering technique."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_condensation_nuclei

You posted that after I noticed, and fixed, my typo. Did you not realise your post was an irrelevant waste of time?
« Last Edit: 16/07/2016 14:19:31 by Bored chemist »
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Re: What are the consequences of being sprayed with barium and aluminium?
« Reply #32 on: 16/07/2016 14:16:30 »
Quote from: tkadm30 on 16/07/2016 14:03:02
Quote from: Bored chemist on 16/07/2016 13:45:37
A man who isn't a scientist says that something would be a good idea- in his opinion.
Do you realise that isn't the same as saying that that "something" is happening?

This guy is the CIA director. I think he might have a better idea of what is going on than you and me...
 
By the way, when a official from the U.S government states his support for geoengineering activity its likely
not the product from my imagination.

At some point you must connect the dots between reality and the potential effects of this activity as a scientist?

And, once again.
Do you realise that someone saying "Iwould support this" is not the same as saying "this is happening"?
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Re: What are the consequences of being sprayed with barium and aluminium?
« Reply #33 on: 16/07/2016 14:26:00 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 16/07/2016 14:16:30
And, once again.
Do you realise that someone saying "Iwould support this" is not the same as saying "this is happening"?

The CIA director is an authority... I trust what he says because clandestine geoengineering activity is a fact; Weather modification is controversial because its classified U.S military technology.
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Re: What are the consequences of being sprayed with barium and aluminium?
« Reply #34 on: 16/07/2016 14:42:22 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 16/07/2016 14:15:35
You posted that after I noticed, and fixed, my typo. Did you not realise your post was an irrelevant waste of time?

I'm guessing you believe that the word "chemtrails" is a product of conspiracy theorists, but in reality the scientific hypothesis that coal fly ash is being used validates the toxic nature of theses aerosols. And ignoring the science behind chemtrails is a waste of time...
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Re: What are the consequences of being sprayed with barium and aluminium?
« Reply #35 on: 16/07/2016 14:45:19 »
Quote from: tkadm30 on 16/07/2016 14:26:00
Quote from: Bored chemist on 16/07/2016 14:16:30
And, once again.
Do you realise that someone saying "Iwould support this" is not the same as saying "this is happening"?

The CIA director is an authority... I trust what he says because clandestine geoengineering activity is a fact; Weather modification is controversial because its classified U.S military technology.
No he isn't.
No it isn't.
No it isn't.
He may well know stuff- so what. He doesn't decide what other people do in, for example, other countries. Nor is it clear that he would know what other countries (or even his own) are doing.
Nobody is doing any meaningful geoengineering. If you disagree please show some actual evidence (rather than someone saying it might be possible)
It's not classified- it's well documented. The three usual variations on the theme use silver iodide- which is effective, but expensive.
Cement powder which is a lot less effective, but much cheaper and was used by the Russians to stop it raining on their may-day parades and solid CO2 which comes between the first two in terms of cost an efficacy.

Why do you keep posting stuff that's irrelevant or wrong?
And, once again.
Do you realise that someone saying "I would support this" is not the same as saying "this is happening"?

Your other post implies that chemtrails are real(and made of fly ash).
You have not supplied a single shred of evidence to support that.
Do you understand that science relies on evidence- and you haven't got any?

You also still keep failing to address the other obvious point.
Why are "they" poisoning themselves?
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Re: What are the consequences of being sprayed with barium and aluminium?
« Reply #36 on: 17/07/2016 10:50:45 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 16/07/2016 14:45:19
No he isn't.
No it isn't.
No it isn't.
He may well know stuff- so what. He doesn't decide what other people do in, for example, other countries. Nor is it clear that he would know what other countries (or even his own) are doing.
Nobody is doing any meaningful geoengineering. If you disagree please show some actual evidence (rather than someone saying it might be possible)
It's not classified- it's well documented. The three usual variations on the theme use silver iodide- which is effective, but expensive.
Cement powder which is a lot less effective, but much cheaper and was used by the Russians to stop it raining on their may-day parades and solid CO2 which comes between the first two in terms of cost an efficacy.

Why do you keep posting stuff that's irrelevant or wrong?
And, once again.
Do you realise that someone saying "I would support this" is not the same as saying "this is happening"?

Your other post implies that chemtrails are real(and made of fly ash).
You have not supplied a single shred of evidence to support that.
Do you understand that science relies on evidence- and you haven't got any?

You also still keep failing to address the other obvious point.
Why are "they" poisoning themselves?

I don't need "evidences" to validate what I'm witnessing on almost a daily basis. The persistent trails left by non-commercial airplanes and drones are proofs that geoengineering is real. You cannot deny this, unless you live on some distant planet or you're mentally insane.

What is needed is scientific research on the possible impacts of geoengineering on the biota, in order to convince the policy makers that geoengineering is a bad idea.

By the way, we are poisoning ourselves with chemtrails simply because our leaders have decided this would save humanity from climate change.
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Re: What are the consequences of being sprayed with barium and aluminium?
« Reply #37 on: 17/07/2016 18:18:53 »
Quote from: tkadm30 on 17/07/2016 10:50:45


I don't need "evidences" to validate what I'm witnessing on almost a daily basis. The persistent trails left by non-commercial airplanes and drones are proofs that geoengineering is real. You cannot deny this, unless you live on some distant planet or you're mentally insane.

What is needed is scientific research on the possible impacts of geoengineering on the biota, in order to convince the policy makers that geoengineering is a bad idea.

By the way, we are poisoning ourselves with chemtrails simply because our leaders have decided this would save humanity from climate change.
I need a new irony meter.
"I don't need "evidences" "
"What is needed is scientific research"


"The persistent trails left by non-commercial airplanes and drones are proofs that geoengineering is real. You cannot deny this, unless you live on some distant planet or you're mentally insane."
Actually I can deny it on the rather dull basis that I have evidence. All I have to do is point a camera out of the window. There are no "chem trails".

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Re: What are the consequences of being sprayed with barium and aluminium?
« Reply #38 on: 18/07/2016 01:44:45 »
You should come to Canada. Clandestine geoengineering activity occurs all the time here.
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Re: What are the consequences of being sprayed with barium and aluminium?
« Reply #39 on: 18/07/2016 01:47:09 »
And the first picture you posted looks like a chemtrail to me.

Are you mocking me??
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