[iko]

Hey Iko, Thanks I thought that was what it was..

I know there must be some health benefit somewhere, but I am not sure I want to go grab a bunch of it and start using it! LOL Maybe some of the things look interesting... Benefits would be great!

Talking about nutrition supplements.
Better stay more CODcentrated and leave Manuka Honey to infected wounds...that we hopefully won't ever get!
Cheers,

ikod

[Karen W.]

 LOL!! I try to stay more CODcentrated..LOL ..That poultice my gram used to make was for open wounds etc.  So I know you must be right! LOL.. I need to find that recipe.. I know it worked because she used it on us many times as a child!

[LBR]

I had a serious infection on my lower leg that nothing seemed to help. I took Manuka Honey,mixed with Cayenne, smeared that on a large band-aid. It took less than two weeks for the infection to completely heal. A doctor friend says that he frequetly uses table sugar on problem infections.

[iko]

I had a serious infection on my lower leg that nothing seemed to help. I took Manuka Honey,mixed with Cayenne, smeared that on a large band-aid. It took less than two weeks for the infection to completely heal. A doctor friend says that he frequetly uses table sugar on problem infections.

You did well with Manouka honey and you are certainly right about table sugar: it is highly concentrated and toxic for bacteria and fungi.  No mold grows on it, in fact.
Cheers,

ikod

[Karen W.]

 That is really cool. I am glad to finally have someone actually try it! and know it worked!

[iko]

Some doctors use this natural remedy
on a routine basis and share positive
experience reporting their data:

Manuka honey dressing: An effective treatment for chronic wound infections

Visavadia BG, Honeysett J, Danford MH.
Maxillofacial Unit, Royal Surrey County Hospital, Egerton Road, Guildford Surrey, UK.

The battle against methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) wound infection is becoming more difficult as drug resistance is widespread and the incidence of MRSA in the community increases. Manuka honey dressing has long been available as a non-antibiotic treatment in the management of chronic wound infections. We have been using honey-impregnated dressings successfully in our wound care clinic and on the maxillofacial ward for over a year.

Br J Oral Maxillofac Surg. 2006 Nov 17;

[Karen W.]

Some doctors use this natural remedy
on a routine basis and share positive
experience reporting their data:

Manuka honey dressing: An effective treatment for chronic wound infections

Visavadia BG, Honeysett J, Danford MH.
Maxillofacial Unit, Royal Surrey County Hospital, Egerton Road, Guildford Surrey, UK.

The battle against methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) wound infection is becoming more difficult as drug resistance is widespread and the incidence of MRSA in the community increases. Manuka honey dressing has long been available as a non-antibiotic treatment in the management of chronic wound infections. We have been using honey-impregnated dressings successfully in our wound care clinic and on the maxillofacial ward for over a year.

Br J Oral Maxillofac Surg. 2006 Nov 17;

That is very cool! I like the old remedies also!

[iko]

Manuka news:
shedding new light on the immune mechanisms that promote healing of chronically infected wounds...it should be free full-text!

http://www.jleukbio.org/cgi/rapidpdf/jlb.1106683v1

A 5.8-kDa component of manuka honey stimulates immune cells via TLR4.

Tonks AJ, Dudley E, Porter NG, Parton J, Brazier J, Smith EL, Tonks A.
Departments of *Medical Microbiology and Haematology, Cardiff University, Cardiff, United Kingdom; Biochemistry Research Group, School of Biological Sciences, School of Environment and Society, University of Wales Swansea, United Kingdom; and Crop and Food Research Ltd., Christchurch, New Zealand.

Honey is used as a therapy to aid wound healing.
Previous data indicate that honey can stimulate cytokine production from human monocytes. The present study further examines this phenomenon in manuka honey. As inflammatory cytokine production in innate immune cells is classically mediated by pattern recognition receptors in response to microorganisms, bacterial contamination of honey and the effect of blocking TLR2 and -4 on stimulatory activity were assessed. No vegetative bacteria were isolated from honey; however, bacterial spores were cultured from one-third of samples, and low levels of LPS were detected. Blocking TLR4 but not TLR2 inhibited honey-stimulated cytokine production significantly. Cytokine production did not correlate with LPS levels in honey and was not inhibited by polymyxin B. Further, the activity was reduced significantly following heat treatment, indicating that component(s) other than LPS are responsible for the stimulatory activity of manuka honey. To identify the component responsible for inducing cytokine production, honey was separated by molecular weight using microcon centrifugal filtration and fractions assessed for stimulatory activity. The active fraction was analyzed by MALDI-TOF mass spectroscopy, which demonstrated the presence of a number of components of varying molecular weights. Additional fractionation using miniaturized, reverse-phase solid-phase extraction resulted in the isolation of a 5.8-kDa component, which stimulated production of TNF-alpha via TLR4. These findings reveal mechanisms and components involved in honey stimulation of cytokine induction and could potentially lead to the development of novel therapeutics to improve wound healing for patients with acute and chronic wounds.

J Leukoc Biol. 2007 Aug 3; [Epub ahead of print]

[Karen W.]

Iko That is really cool. Sounds like a promising study!

[iko]

Iko That is really cool. Sounds like a promising study!

Yes Karen,
and it is reaallly 'fresh news'!
It's fun to update such an old 'rediscovered' issue.
It made 5k viewers and I have to thank Neil and you
for starting this thread.
Take care

ikoD

[Karen W.]

I think Neil Started It Iko.. He is  a smart man! I will be glad for any updates!

You take care to Iko.. You've been Great!

[chemtester]

This is great. I know several people who could use this. My mom just had surgery and had an infection. I wonder how it would work on her.

[iko]

Hi chemtester,

welcome to this forum
and to ManukaHoney Neil planet.
Please follow indications and
instructions as close as you
can to standard clinical med.

Some doctors use this natural remedy
on a routine basis and share positive
experience reporting their data:

Manuka honey dressing: An effective treatment for chronic wound infections

Visavadia BG, Honeysett J, Danford MH.
Maxillofacial Unit, Royal Surrey County Hospital, Egerton Road, Guildford Surrey, UK.

The battle against methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) wound infection is becoming more difficult as drug resistance is widespread and the incidence of MRSA in the community increases. Manuka honey dressing has long been available as a non-antibiotic treatment in the management of chronic wound infections. We have been using honey-impregnated dressings successfully in our wound care clinic and on the maxillofacial ward for over a year.

Br J Oral Maxillofac Surg. 2006 Nov 17;

http://a114.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/12/l_bb2cebe7831afa49b7d112d98016e7b9.jpg

Only marginal benefit reported here
in a randomized clinical trial, but we have
to point out that there was no infection:

Honey dressing versus paraffin tulle gras following toenail surgery.

McIntosh CD, Thomson CE.
Centre for Health and Social Care Research, University of Huddersfield, UK. c.mcintosh@hud.ac.uk

OBJECTIVE: Anecdotal reports suggest that certain honey dressings have a positive effect on wound healing. However, there is limited empirical evidence supporting its use.
This double-blind randomised controlled trial investigated the effect of a honey dressing on wound healing following toenail surgery with matrix phenolisation.
METHOD: Participants (n=100) were randomly assigned to receive either an active manuka honey dressing (n=52) or paraffin-impregnated tulle gras (n=48).The primary outcome was time (days) taken for complete re-epithelialisation of the nail bed.
RESULTS: Mean healing times were 40.30 days (SD 18.21) for the honey group and 39.98 days (SD 25.42) for the paraffin tulle gras group. Partial avulsion wounds healed statistically significantly faster (p=0.01) with paraffin tulle gras (19.62 days, SD 9.31) than with the honey dressing (31.76 days, SD 18., but no significant difference (p=0.21) was found following total avulsion when comparing honey (45.28 days, SD 18.03.) with paraffin tulle gras dressings (52.03 days, SD 21.3).
CONCLUSION: The results suggest that patients may benefit more from paraffin tulle gras dressings than honey dressings following partial toenail avulsion. No statistically significant difference was found for healing times after total toenail avulsion, although the marginal benefit of the honey dressing on these healing times warrants further investigation.

J Wound Care. 2006 Mar;15(3):133-6.

[SunTzu]

Honeymark makes an extremely effective wound dressing.  Because Manuka Honey has natural antibacterial, antimicrobial and antifungal properties, this products works well on wounds with antibiotic-resistant strains of bacteria.  For more information about their First Aid Antiseptic Lotion made with Active Manuka Honey, go to

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[SunTzu]

Honeymark is a U.S.-based manufacturer of health care products that is now using Manuka Honey in creams and lotions.  Their website is

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[neilep (OP)]

Was going to post this in the Science News Article Thread but thought it apt for here instead

Patients should ask surgeons about using honey to heal wounds

Surgeons are being advised to consider the supermarket as well as the drugs cupboard when it comes to effective wound healing, according to a research review published in the October issue of IJCP, the International Journal of Clinical Practice.

And patients who’ve undergone surgery should ask their doctors whether they should apply honey to their wounds to speed up healing and reduce infection.

“Honey is one of the oldest foods in existence and was an ancient remedy for wound healing” explains lead author Dr Fasal Rauf Khan from North West Wales NHS Trust in Bangor. “It was found in the tomb of King Tutankhamun and was still edible as it never spoils.”

Honey is enjoying a revival as more reports of its effectiveness are published, he adds.

“Researchers started to document the wound healing properties of honey in the early 20th century, but the introduction of antibiotics in 1940 temporarily halted its use.

“Now concerns about antibiotic resistance, and a renewed interest in natural remedies, has prompted a resurgence in the antimicrobial and wound healing properties of honey.

“Honey has a number of properties that make it effective against bacterial growth, including its high sugar content, low moisture content, gluconic acid – which creates an acidic environment – and hydrogen peroxide. It has also been shown to reduce inflammation and swelling.”

Researchers have also reported that applying honey can be used to reduce amputation rates among diabetes patients.

Stressing that patients should always check with their surgeon before applying any substance to post-operative wounds, Dr Khan adds that studies have found that honey offers a number of benefits.

“It can be used to sterilise infected wounds, speed up healing and impede tumours, particularly in keyhole surgery.”

Studies have suggested that honey should be applied at regular intervals, from hourly to twice daily and that wounds can become sterile in three to 10 days.

“The research suggests that honey seems to be especially indicated when wounds become infected or fail to close or heal” says Dr Khan. “It is probably even more useful for healing the wounds left by laparoscopic surgery to remove cancers.”

18 studies covering more than 60 years were included in the review. The authors also looked at other substances used for wound healing, including maggots, which were also commonly used before the introduction of antibiotics and are enjoying a revival.

The team also discovered an ancient manuscript that used wine dregs, juniper prunes and beer, but point out that that has not been tried and tested in recent years!

“Our research suggests that surgeons should seriously consider using honey for post-operative wounds and offer this to patients” concludes Dr Khan. “We would also encourage patients to ask about honey as an option, but stress that they should always follow their surgeon’s advice and not try any home remedies.”

SOURCE:EUREKALERT.ORG

[iko]

How is your Nail?  []

Interesting indeed, even without any vit.D or cod...

“Our research suggests that surgeons should seriously consider using honey for post-operative wounds and offer this to patients” concludes Dr Khan. “We would also encourage patients to ask about honey as an option, but stress that they should always follow their surgeon’s advice and not try any home remedies.”

This is not exactly correct, in my opinion it should be:

"follow their surgeon’s advice to try effective home remedies"

It will take time and exhaustive clinical trials to be accepted by the whole medical community.
Then we'll need a standard registered product. One human generation will pass in the meantime.
Who will be paying for those studies, the honey producers?
...the bees?  []

ikod

http://www.top-bar-hive.com/gallery1/beautiful-bees-comb.jpg

[Karen W.]

nice posts!

[Carolyn]

It's been 9 days since my 2nd and 3rd black widow bites.  My hand has healed nicely, but the bite on my arm isn't healing.  It has a knot under the bite and the entire arm is quite sore.  I'm told it could take 2 weeks or longer for it to start healing.  One of my friends who is nurse said to put honey on it and cover with a bandage and it should start feeling better in a few days. 

I have followed her advice as of today, so I'll let you all know the results in a few days.

[Carolyn]

It's been three days.  After the first day, the knot was gone.  By the second day the soreness was gone.  Today, the actual bite looks better, the sore from it is almost gone.