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Quote from: alancalverd on 07/04/2015 00:53:49by everyone's definition. An atom is an electrically neutral assembly of equal numbers of protons and electrons plus a few neutrons. I am not following your meaning. everyone's definition, how can something be defined if it is to small to observe? I would not define an atom to be made up of components, what evidence is there to show this?Are you certain it is not just presumption? All the time I have been on the internet and science, I have seen no real evidence to support the atomic model, I do not believe there is evidence?
by everyone's definition. An atom is an electrically neutral assembly of equal numbers of protons and electrons plus a few neutrons.
I am not following your meaning. everyone's definition, how can something be defined if it is to small to observe?
I would not define an atom to be made up of components, what evidence is there to show this?
Are you certain it is not just presumption?
All the time I have been on the internet and science, I have seen no real evidence to support the atomic model, I do not believe there is evidence?
Quote from: Thebox on 07/04/2015 01:17:45Quote from: alancalverd on 07/04/2015 00:53:49by everyone's definition. An atom is an electrically neutral assembly of equal numbers of protons and electrons plus a few neutrons. I am not following your meaning. everyone's definition, how can something be defined if it is to small to observe? I would not define an atom to be made up of components, what evidence is there to show this?Are you certain it is not just presumption? All the time I have been on the internet and science, I have seen no real evidence to support the atomic model, I do not believe there is evidence?There is LOTS of evidence of atomic structure. You are either looking in the wrong places or too ignorant to understand the evidence.Just because something is so small that it cannot be seen directly using visible light does not mean there is no way to get information about it.X-ray, ultraviolet and visible light (all EM, for the record) spectroscopy reveals the electronic structures of atoms and molecules.Nucleus, proton, neutron and muon bombardment reveals nuclear structure. (for example, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geiger%E2%80%93Marsden_experiment)
Quote from: Thebox on 08/04/2015 12:52:21I am not following your meaning. everyone's definition, how can something be defined if it is to small to observe? Not so Mr. Box, check out the following link. Scientists have been taking photos of atomic structure for some time now.http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/05/28/amazing-first-ever-photograph-inside-hydrogen-atom/
the electron shell is not emitted isotropic from the center of the picture
Never mind what doesn't show Quotethe electron shell is not emitted isotropic from the center of the picture: what does show it? Where is the experimental evidence for whatever phenomenal insight you are trying to share with the world? If you show us, perhaps some kind soul will be able to put it into words that humans understand.
The satisfying aspect of quantum orbitals is that you can predict the shape of a molecule and how it will pack into a crystal. Then you can look at the x-ray diffraction pattern and, as if by magic, it turns out that you were right!
In consideration of voltage the sun and the earths core must produce a positive voltage output and solids absorb this output?
1. What experimental evidence do you have that contradicts everyone else's? Most physics undergraduates have measured the charge and mass of a single electron. Your "consideration" is worthless. 2.Quote In consideration of voltage the sun and the earths core must produce a positive voltage output and solids absorb this output?Why "must"? Have you any idea of the meaning of words like "voltage"?
science implies that the electron is attracted to the proton yet has the ability to not touch the proton which is physically impossible by the laws of attraction.
Do I know what voltage is? is that a genuine question........of cause I know what voltage is, what charge is what capacity is.
Quotescience implies that the electron is attracted to the proton yet has the ability to not touch the proton which is physically impossible by the laws of attraction.That's why scientists use quantum mechanics rather than your idiosyncratic "laws of attraction" to describe what actually happens. We don't impose scientific laws on the universe, we discover them by observation, and if the observation doesn't fit the law, we revise the law. In the case of atomic orbitals, the "law" was substantively revised in 1926 and hasn't changed much since then. Get with the program, my friend!QuoteDo I know what voltage is? is that a genuine question........of cause I know what voltage is, what charge is what capacity is.Then why do your posts consistently misuse the words?
I have lost the interest in it now, I have not got the time to just to sit here any more.
Jccc is trying to explain the same idea as me except with errors in logic ....
Quote from: Thebox on 04/05/2015 09:34:18Jccc is trying to explain the same idea as me except with errors in logic ....LOL, "errors in logic", hilarious, then I read the rest of your post and I was hysterical, rolled up on the floor, tears rolling down my cheeks.OK overstatement for effect, how about "quite amusing".Edit: sorry, rewind that. Have just read this to one of our daughters, her reaction was "WHAT!!" Then we couldn't stop laughing, tears were really rolling down our cheeks. Her opinion is that if it this bad we can never convince Mr Box.
Have you ever read a book on classical mechanics? That is likely a good place to start. Also you will need a good grasp of algebra and calculus. It isn't easy to learn and understand the laws of physics without this effort. I would look forward to a proper debate with you once you have made a little progress. Everyone here would actually help you learn. That is exactly what this forum is meant to do. Just have a think about it. You may surprise yourself.