Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)

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« Reply #18500 on: 26/07/2013 18:56:50 »
Basti is  just an enema.     So liver flushes and  coffee enemas will do the same  for people who have no access to this  pranchama thing.   I recomend those  to every one. Also you can  use   saunas to move toxins.. and   to get rid of POIS in some cases it will take a year. not 10 days.

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« Reply #18501 on: 26/07/2013 19:49:37 »
I bet you won't be saying it's a joke if Gaurav gets better :)
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« Reply #18502 on: 26/07/2013 23:36:51 »
Daniel,

I have no idea who Guarav is .  I did not see his  analysis.  Him and Nathan  might as well had parasites . And  I know it is a joke. To spend 2000 dollars on some  stupid treatment..   I would  rather go  to a korean  massage parlor)))

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« Reply #18503 on: 27/07/2013 00:01:53 »
Guys,

        I tried Dr. Kumar/Nathan's suggestion for Palsinuron tablets (3 times a day) and Amala Juice (2 tablespoons each morning) for 1 month along with all the Ayurvedic diet restrictions and I did find some improvement (about 30-40%). As Dr. Kumar has suggested, I will try to undergo Panchakarma treatment but I might be able to try that after 6-8 months as I am currently out of country. However, in the meantime, I have found something interesting and it's that one of my main symptoms is that my body isn't able to handle the heat i.e. body gets really warm every now and then, and then my nose starts running, and this is what also happens during POIS too. I recently found this condition is called Hyperthermia, where the body temperature increases a lot and can't regulate, and I am wondering if that has anything to do with POIS. Recently, as a test right after orgasm (don't wait), I simply washed my feet with cold water along with my thighs and calf, and then rather than wiping the water, I let the water evaporate on its own (which is one of the cure for Hyperthermia to cool down the body). Also, I kept the air conditioning running all the time rather than setting it on auto mode. In addition, as soon as I got up in the morning (don't wait), I did the same thing of washing my feet/legs with cold water and let it evaporate. (Note: I continued Amla juice 2 tablespoons in the morning), and then again in the evening after coming from work, I washed with cold water and let it evaporate. Interestingly, my POIS symptoms were just about 10% when I did the cold water test. However, my body still becomes warm every now and then, and letting cold water evaporate on my legs and feet resolves the issues. (Hopefully, some of you can try this approach and let me know what you find as there is no cost involved with this solution. However, in the long run, we still need a permanent solution that can completely solve this POIS issue - Let's wait to see what Gaurav finds out after his Panchakarma treatment.)

 I have sent all the details of my hyperthermia symptoms to Dr. Kumar as I believe that there might be some correlation between POIS and hyperthermia. In the meantime, please read about hyperthermia and if you also experience heat sensitivity, please do reply back on the forum.
« Last Edit: 27/07/2013 11:35:10 by RemovePois »

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« Reply #18504 on: 27/07/2013 00:35:45 »
I could have sworn I remember a member here named Gaurav, but when I search the NSF member list the closest I find is  gauravnew.  Can somebody fill me in on where he is?
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« Reply #18505 on: 27/07/2013 08:04:14 »
I have found something interesting and it's that one of my main symptoms is that my body isn't able to handle the heat i.e. body gets really warm every now and then, and then my nose starts running, and this is what also happens during POIS too. I recently found this condition is called Hyperthermia, where the body temperature increases a lot and can't regulate, and I am wondering if that has anything to do with POIS.

I would agree that taking a cold shower in the morning helps my condition. However, not very pleasant.

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« Reply #18506 on: 27/07/2013 08:57:15 »
There is something in our hormones that our body doesn't like. I get POIS (with less intensity) when getting only aroused. After an ejaculation, my body just becomes extremely week and my mind becomes just blank. My breathing pattern becomes slow and it takes less air into chest. I guess this is because the  diaphragm muscles are already weak due to appearance of POIS.

I find exercising helps my body get rid of the fatigue and speaking a lot with someone will cure my brain fog very quickly in less than 2-3 days. Diet with ground beef has shown to be the most effective meal which helps with brain fog treatment.

It has been a while that I have been trying to cure my brain fog by speaking a lot and it has been working. The only thing is that it feels very difficult at the beginning to create words in your mind but as you get challenged to think through and speak, you start feeling better. The trick, I found, is to speak to someone about whatever you like and say as many words as you can. It will work quickly.

Let me know if you have found this technique working.

For wet dream, I figured, if I avoid coffee, I can extend the wet dream occurrence from once a week to once every 2 weeks. I replaced coffee by team. I think if I remove tea from my diet, I should be able to extend it for a longer period. However, I need some form of small caffeine daily. So I guess I can't avoid tea. I totally avoid watching any scenes that cause arousal, on the web, tv, etc. and that helps not masturbating and extending the wet dreams.

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« Reply #18507 on: 27/07/2013 11:27:24 »
Mer,

Given what you say, would you conceed that it's possible that your symptoms are of a psychological origin?
That's not to say that there are not organic changes that are causing your symptoms; but is it possible that your mental state influences/changes/creates organic changes in the body that promote POIS.

I dont get nocturnal emmisions, but if anyone read the link I posted to a book about neurasthenia, you would of read that a commonality amongst those suffering from neurasthenia was NE's. The author of the book claims to have successfuly treated neurastheinia with pschotherapy in conjunction with very general adjustments to ones behaviour/life.

Although I got banned from the POIS centre for suggesting this, I'm going to suggest it again: I am inclined to believe that POIS has pyschological origins. L-theanine is an amino acid that is supposed promote relaxation. Get on it.

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« Reply #18508 on: 27/07/2013 11:33:05 »
thanks for confirming Johanstefansson the cold water evaporation method works for you. If anyone else wants to try it out, please let us know. By the way, make sure that you do the steps that I mentioned as soon as you get up. Don't even wait a minute otherwise it doesn't work for me.

By the way, Mer, when you exercise, body sweats and then that sweat evaporates, which does the same thing as the cold water evaporation method that I suggested above to cool down your body.

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« Reply #18509 on: 27/07/2013 11:52:37 »
Dear friends,

Heat intolerance , hot flashes ans so forth  are  the signs of estrogen dominance.  Your symptoms  went down on  that juice  which contains  vitamin C  , which  lowers histamin  levels in the body  making copper  more bioavailabe and  estrogen  dominance less.

People  were doing this  for years here. Vitamin  C wont  balance you  , but actually   unbalance you  even more in the end.
Dr.Kumar did not explain anything   as far as POIS is concerned, saying  things that  were written on this forum  for ever   His AEC test does not make any sense also.   Same as any other doctor I encounter. He does not seem to have any knowledge in the field of biochemistry . 
Cleanses  and  enemas which is  pranchkarma   is usefull and might work for some. But  more than half of the people  got POIS in their childhood , from    first  sex experience and so forth.   When you have  estrogen  dominance  since you  got your bile flow impaired I understand that Verichana  will help.. But  POIS is far more complicated that drinkin  juice with vitamin C in it.  You can  do  100s of pranchkarmas  if you  thyroid is impaired you wont get anywhere( as an example)

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« Reply #18510 on: 27/07/2013 12:05:07 »
I wish some one from this forum  tries this  Pranchakarma thing that we know.  Instead of  people who  somehow  have  dr.Kumars emails and phone numbers.)))

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« Reply #18511 on: 27/07/2013 12:25:06 »
Saying phrase that overmasturbation  leads to  acetylcholine imbalance.)))    Which is it   high or low acetylclholine,  doctor.  As per Nathan  it  is high acetylcholine.  By which  mechanism  did his masturbation  cause his acetylcholine  to be high? And how do you know that?    this is too funny.

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« Reply #18512 on: 27/07/2013 15:16:16 »
Who is Gaurav?
Online there is no such person.

Gaurav why not write to the forum?


Kima.
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« Reply #18513 on: 27/07/2013 16:23:44 »
kumardtr.
Doctor, long treated syndrome pois.

Thank you!







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« Reply #18514 on: 27/07/2013 21:17:45 »
Mer,

Given what you say, would you conceed that it's possible that your symptoms are of a psychological origin?
That's not to say that there are not organic changes that are causing your symptoms; but is it possible that your mental state influences/changes/creates organic changes in the body that promote POIS.

I dont get nocturnal emmisions, but if anyone read the link I posted to a book about neurasthenia, you would of read that a commonality amongst those suffering from neurasthenia was NE's. The author of the book claims to have successfuly treated neurastheinia with pschotherapy in conjunction with very general adjustments to ones behaviour/life.

Although I got banned from the POIS centre for suggesting this, I'm going to suggest it again: I am inclined to believe that POIS has pyschological origins. L-theanine is an amino acid that is supposed promote relaxation. Get on it.

Well, I don't say it is not of psychological origin. I don't think it is a good idea to ban any ideas that can help us figure out the roots of the problem. Can you explain more what that condition is? and why don't you get NE? Do you have POIS in the first place? I think if you don't masturbate and you don't have sex, then your body should somehow get rid of the accumulated semen. I think NE must be the likely option for your body.

I wonder, instead of us trying to reduce the intensity of POIS, why don't we try to do the reverse action, i.e. trying to see if we can increase the intensity of POIS in an effert to figure out what the origins of this condition are. There should be a slightly linear relationship between some factors and the intensity of POIS.. at least some linear region. If it is hard to reduce the POIS, is it hard to intensify it? then what are things that help with intensifying it?

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« Reply #18515 on: 28/07/2013 04:53:02 »
Daniel,

I have no idea who Guarav is .  I did not see his  analysis.  Him and Nathan  might as well had parasites . And  I know it is a joke. To spend 2000 dollars on some  stupid treatment..   I would  rather go  to a korean  massage parlor)))

Friends, I came here only sincere request from Nathan to help the members without any commercial motive. Inspire of this, such a direct encounter saying "Stupid Treatment  and comparing with Korean Massage, its really hurt me as it is a direct attack what ayurvedic doctors followed. So, it is sorry to say that I am quitting this forum.

Second thing is who told you incur 2000$. I charged Nathan only Rs.20,000 i.e. 400$ for 12 days treatment. Gaurav is getting this treatment in his country (Malasia) at 700$.

Thanks.

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« Reply #18516 on: 28/07/2013 08:58:48 »
Daniel,

I have no idea who Guarav is .  I did not see his  analysis.  Him and Nathan  might as well had parasites . And  I know it is a joke. To spend 2000 dollars on some  stupid treatment..   I would  rather go  to a korean  massage parlor)))

Friends, I came here only sincere request from Nathan to help the members without any commercial motive. Inspire of this, such a direct encounter saying "Stupid Treatment  and comparing with Korean Massage, its really hurt me as it is a direct attack what ayurvedic doctors followed. So, it is sorry to say that I am quitting this forum.

Second thing is who told you incur 2000$. I charged Nathan only Rs.20,000 i.e. 400$ for 12 days treatment. Gaurav is getting this treatment in his country (Malasia) at 700$.

Thanks.


Sometimes we can be too opinionated.  And we've got a little pent up frustration after spending half our lives feeling crummy.  That said, thank you for sharing your thoughts with us.  I wish more doctors were caring enough to go the extra step like you have. 
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« Reply #18517 on: 28/07/2013 10:46:35 »
Dr. Kumar,

This is  scientific forum ,  which relies on the facts.  When I came here  I was given  very hard time and I was trying to fight back  defending my  theory and my view.  Since I cured myself from POIS I stuck around. 

If you  dont know what causes POIS and  you are speculating with the terms you heard here or  read on the internet about acetylcholine,  then  how can we trust  you  or listen to you .
Auerverdic medicine  is ok, but most of it  is just  fancy called and  kind if trendy  thing without much difference from  the procedures  of  Eastern  world.. Like pranchakarma  cost  2000 in the US, same as in Russia.  May be in india and surrounding countries   it costs less.   You  still did not explain the mechanism of the decease and  how to fix  it....  There is no  reason  to  be  offended, I am expressing my  opinion  and no  one is attacking you ...  Just give facts not something that you make up , since you are not a  POIS sufferer you are a doctor, and the doctors  were taught to be  scientific  and  factual  in their med schools I thought.
The right thing  is to offer a treatment or try to offer a treatment that is  applicalblе  in the  place where  patients are . 
And obviously  pranchakarma  is not  .   Thank you for sharing  all this with us, and  we appreciate it ...But we  really were looking for an explanation  of the decease. 

Good luck and thanks,

Herman


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« Reply #18518 on: 28/07/2013 11:13:33 »
If you  want to remove toxins,  you can always use 3 things,     saunas to move toxins,  then  liver flush  to  keep your liver clean and  coffee enemas.   This will substitute this pranchakarma   and it will cost you  very little.  You can buy  the infra  red  lamps for 9 dollars each and make your own  sauna  at your home and do it every day , and do the  liver flush  every  week and  coffee enemas daily.   At the  same time , you can  take minerals to  replenish what is missing.
 

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« Reply #18519 on: 28/07/2013 11:29:12 »
Toxins are  a burden  and  of course  they are  bad , but let me tell you my story.
I was doing  detox for a year.  In that  year  I did  15 liver flushes,  I did  coffee enemas,  eucaliptus  enemas probiotics enemas, I  did  saunas almost every day.   My skin  my hair and  everything else improved dramatically. I fell very young and  full of energy. Also  I did  three  25 days fasts,  after which  I found that even my birthmarks  and some moles on  my body  disappeared.  I felt  10 years younger after all that, my eyes were  100% white,  my skin was glowing  and I felt really light.  I had  no toxins at all in me.   But    after all this  I  still had POIS.     that  was killing me big time.  It was much lighter and smaller but it was still there.  So goes the theory of  toxins.  Even if you get toxins out , you need to replenish  them  with  needed minerals,   and   your body would never let go of a toxin  which  is  used to support a vital  function in the body  , since many  toxic metals   substitute   our friendly minerals in the enzyme systems.  Thus   cleanses only get rid of toxins  which are accumulated in the  storage  not those in the enzymes.

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« Reply #18520 on: 28/07/2013 14:12:09 »
Oh , yeah , I forgot... I  cleansed my kidneys also... I was eating   water melons then  took  hot baths and was pissing out stones and  sand which hurt like hell.. Also  I did  juice cleanses  which are used for cancer patients,  cucumber  beat and  celery  mixture, that  pushed so much sand out of  my  pee hole, it is not even funny.  I honestly thought I had cancer, since my lymph nodes were totally screwed up.  Nothing will clean  you  out in 10 days...It is not possible.   I drank  distilled water constantly .   I was a  detox factory  people.  And no result for POIS.

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« Reply #18521 on: 28/07/2013 14:34:55 »
From the tests that I recieved  recently,  almost every single  person   has low ceruloplasmin   in their blood.   Ceruloplasmin  is  copper based protein that  binds copper and carries it all over  including  into  the bile to detox. 
Bear with me,    you  have copper  in your serum and 95% of that copper should be bound to ceruloplasmin.   To test it  people  have  serum copper test and  ceruloplasmin tests,  from  which  you get  free copper  content.    Free copper  equals free estrogens   which  affect your inflammatory  systems.  Ceruloplasmin is used to break  down histamine.  When  free copper part gets larger because of stress, or  constant masturbation ,  ceruplasmin  falls.  If you wish I can  provide you with many studies to  support this claim.
So the logic is this..... Stress  lowers ceruloplasmin levels,  which leads to  larger part  of the free copper in blood, which  can be calculated  by   the formula you can find online  for  free copper.( From  serum copper and ceruloplasmin)

Free copper irritates adrenals,  since it increases  cortiosl secretion obviously  this way  there is a steal taking place  and your aldosterone falls and cortisol goes up.  In this setup  your ceruloplasmin will go down ,  and histamine will go up..

This is  your mechanism for POIS. 


To chelate  free copper and  to lower  cortisol and  increase thyroid function, since free copper equals free estrogen which  supresses thyroid,   you need    manganese  zinc  B6 and vitamin C.   

But there are many  different cases,  and  in some cases  for instance thyroid is suppresed by  mercury , and cortisol is up  to support   low thyroid since cortisol  pushes potassium up in the cell which increases thyroid function...In that case  copper chelation will help, but you will also need to chelate mercury and  use a lot of selenium  and possibly,   cilantro  and chlorella/

This is 100% cause of POIS, since  when  ceruloplasmin is low, that means  copper is not bound and that  good estrogen does not stimulate  aldosterone  production
aldosterone and good estrogen  causes retention of manganese....Manganese is  needed for acetylcholine synthesis and  the lack of which causes your  muscle weakness and  other low acetylcholine symptoms.

So you have  low zinc  , which  impaired your  digestion , you have   low copper bound which   increases your histamines and you have low ceruloplasmin  which  decreases your iron in blood and   you have low manganese  which  causes low acetylcholine.


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« Reply #18522 on: 28/07/2013 14:44:45 »
Adrenal  Fatigue to me does not  exist.     It is a compensatory function   since  your cortisol  is trying hard to compensate for  your  energy  lack so aldosterone goes down, and there is no adrenal fatique at all/ It is all bs   crap.

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« Reply #18523 on: 28/07/2013 21:55:30 »
B JIM

There is no adrenal fatigue  as far as I am concerned.  The gland is totally fine.  Since cortisol  is  made out of progesterone and  progesterone needs zinc,   basically cortisol runs out as your adrenals  are lackng nutrients.  Since manganese is going down   in this setup,  acetylcholine  goes down.  And acetylcholine is needed to  send a signal  to adrenals  thru the spine.  B5 and manganese are the   acetylcholine   cofactors, which  are needed for its production , that is why  they say that  adrenals work on B5, which they dont. 

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« Reply #18524 on: 29/07/2013 02:35:51 »
Daniel,

I have no idea who Guarav is .  I did not see his  analysis.  Him and Nathan  might as well had parasites . And  I know it is a joke. To spend 2000 dollars on some  stupid treatment..   I would  rather go  to a korean  massage parlor)))

Friends, I came here only sincere request from Nathan to help the members without any commercial motive. Inspire of this, such a direct encounter saying "Stupid Treatment  and comparing with Korean Massage, its really hurt me as it is a direct attack what ayurvedic doctors followed. So, it is sorry to say that I am quitting this forum.

Second thing is who told you incur 2000$. I charged Nathan only Rs.20,000 i.e. 400$ for 12 days treatment. Gaurav is getting this treatment in his country (Malasia) at 700$.

Thanks.



Dr kumar please ignore gbolduev statements, he does not speak for the group. If you notice no else has said anything negative about your treatment.  You help and interest is appreciated.


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« Reply #18525 on: 29/07/2013 02:38:45 »
Hi, I am following this forum form the past 2 years. For me symtoms, as usual explained by you and all. From past 5 years, I contacted many doctors and undergo many test and found all the tests are normal. But today, I undergo Abdomen Ultrasound Scan and found few things abnormal. Whether these have any relation with my POIS.
I got a appointment with my Gasterolist only in next week.
The abnormal findings in Abdomen Ultrsound scan are :
a) Liver: Mild parenchymal hyperechogenecity noted.
b) Kidney: Left renal mildly ectatic extra-renal pelvis seen.
Impression: Mild Fatty changes in Liver

Please help

This must be who nathan's doctor is talking about.

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« Reply #18526 on: 29/07/2013 11:03:26 »
CertainlyPOIS,

I have many people come out on the russian forum and state that they are POIS free.  I know what I am taking about. 
Just trying to save you  and others money.  But you  do  what you want, it is  your life.  I only work with whom I feel like. To cure from POIS you  need to change your lifestyle and  that is hard to do, since all of you  are looking for a quick  fix,  even if its  10-12 procedure that is done by somebody .  It wont work.  I will be laughing my ass off if someone  spends 2000  dollars on   the  liver flush with castor oil  and   enemas.  It is insane. Do it at home for free, that is all I am saying.

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« Reply #18527 on: 29/07/2013 11:20:29 »
It is insane that I laid  down  a cure in front you  for months and  everyone here is  still sick.   I will  be gone from this forum also,  since I dont  have time to try to  move something that is not moving. One day  you will get what I was saying.

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« Reply #18528 on: 29/07/2013 11:22:33 »
Daniel,

I have no idea who Guarav is .  I did not see his  analysis.  Him and Nathan  might as well had parasites . And  I know it is a joke. To spend 2000 dollars on some  stupid treatment..   I would  rather go  to a korean  massage parlor)))

Friends, I came here only sincere request from Nathan to help the members without any commercial motive. Inspire of this, such a direct encounter saying "Stupid Treatment  and comparing with Korean Massage, its really hurt me as it is a direct attack what ayurvedic doctors followed. So, it is sorry to say that I am quitting this forum.

Second thing is who told you incur 2000$. I charged Nathan only Rs.20,000 i.e. 400$ for 12 days treatment. Gaurav is getting this treatment in his country (Malasia) at 700$.

Thanks.



Dr kumar please ignore gbolduev statements, he does not speak for the group. If you notice no else has said anything negative about your treatment.  You help and interest is appreciated.


Thank you Dr Kumar for your help. The best is to ignore gbolduev ! I do believe in ayurvedic and I want to say that you describe very well my AEC levels  : on day 1 my AEC is under 400 and the day 2 it is over 1400. It is the only standard that goes wrong with me in and out of POIS.

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« Reply #18529 on: 29/07/2013 11:29:38 »
Habibu,


Good luck to you .AEC count is a joke,  of course it would go up. Your  inflammatory response is screwed up.

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« Reply #18530 on: 29/07/2013 11:33:14 »
It has been a long time to post my status in the Forum and from long time I am spectator and observing the posts.  Regarding my status from god's sake, POIS free and completed 4 months of new life. Enjoying the every second of my life. Further, also involved in spreading the awareness on this symtom and writing mail to Medical Organization on this disease and how I cured in my local area.   

Secondly, it was good to see u Kumar in this forum.  Due to some incident, he got irritated (After the usage of Stupid Treatment)  Today, contacted him and explained the background & intention of such statement / person and requested to contribute the results. He agreed for this and he told he will come only after the result of Gaurav (he is in touch with Gaurav ).

Still I want to clear here that I cured only because of one and half to two month herbal medicine (i.e. preppatory for main treatment) and cleansing program of the body (i.e. Panchakarma) for 12 days.   this cures me. Thanks to my Doctor who has taken extra care for my case.



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« Reply #18531 on: 29/07/2013 11:57:43 »
I gaurantee  if Dr  Kumar comes back here, he will saying exactly the things that I  am saying. 100%   

There is no other way. 

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« Reply #18532 on: 29/07/2013 12:34:27 »
He needs to study  my posts.

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« Reply #18533 on: 29/07/2013 13:40:52 »
Nathan,


Dr.Kumars herbal medicine was taken by one of the guys here, and he got  improvement of 30% after 2 months treatment as he posted here.  30%  is very very little improvement.

Pranchakarma as I already  stated is castor oil flush ,  with enemas.  As you stated before ,you   had no POIS  even after   herbal treatment and pranchakarma  was an additional  cleanse.  Your doctor  stated  the opposite here and  told us that  he does not know the reason for POIS  even now and that  he gave you  pranchakarma after you told him  about my theory.   

And I was being attacked for  stating  this?  I know  you  people are desperate , but dont be in denial

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« Reply #18534 on: 29/07/2013 13:49:00 »
People plz dont fight only disagree ethically.we have enough problems already

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« Reply #18535 on: 29/07/2013 13:52:22 »
We are not fighting ,   aureverdic  crap is toxic.  I would never agree with  taking something toxic..That is insane.
Nathan, are you sure you're taking Krumi Kuthar Ras and not Krimi Kuthar Ras? I couldn't find much about Krumi Kuthar Ras in a quick google search, but I did find that Krimi Kuthar Ras contains mercury and is therefore toxic(permanent nerve damage, etc.)

This is the research done  by Vincent.  It is insane to take mercury , just  simply crazy.

Here's my source:
Krimikuthar Ras ingredients, how to make:
Karpura Camphor Cinnamomum camphora 80 g
10 g fine powder of each of
Indrayava Connessi seed Holarrhena antidysenterica
Trayamana Gentiana kurroo
Ajamoda Ajowan (fruit) Trachyspermum roxburghianum
Vidanga False black pepper Embelia ribes
Shuddha Hingula Purified and processed Cinnabar (Mercury compound)
Shuddha Vatsanabha Purified Aconitum ferox
Nagakeshara Mesua ferrea
Juice extract of Vijaya Bhanga Cannabis sativa quantity sufficient for grinding for one day
Seed powder of Palasha Butea monosperma 150 g
Mushakarni quantity sufficient for grinding.
Brahmi Thyme leaved gratiola (whole plant) Bacopa monnieri juice extract quantity sufficient for grinding.

http://ayurmedinfo.com/2012/07/26/krimi-kuthar-ras-benefits-dosage-ingredients-side-effects/

This might be why your doctor said it's not safe to take for more than 2 months, but if this is the stuff you're taking then in my opinion it's not safe to take period.

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« Reply #18536 on: 29/07/2013 14:31:16 »
Hi Gbouldev,

There are many & many things my doctor not posted here as he is waiting for the result of Gaurav on his theory (which is based on experiment on me) and one person he is following the diet. In Diet only, he finds cure of 30 to 40% in two months.  Doctor knows the basic cause of my POIS problem and come up with a treatment for this. Panchakarma is not so simple as you are telling. It involves many steps and depending on the case to case. 

Do you know one more thing, now Gaurav has completed one step of the course where the treatment is to drink Pure Ghee (of 300 ml) daily morning and drinking the warm water once in thirty minutes for whole day. That is the preppatory steps adopted by his doctor for the main treatment. Let's wait for his result.

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« Reply #18537 on: 29/07/2013 14:39:31 »
Nathan,

Your doctor clearly stated what he know and what he does not know.  And there is a guy  who posted here  that he was taking  herbal medicine that you were taking for more than a month and  30% got improved , not  cured at all.  Same results  you would get  on  vitamin C.
Verichana  which you did,   is that simple. Basti is even more simpler.

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« Reply #18538 on: 29/07/2013 14:44:02 »
Hi Gbouldev,

Further to add, you are also one of the incidental reason for my cure. 

The story is as follows. I started to take the nutritional tablet (B6, zinc etc) as suggested by you. After 15 to 20 days, my Blood Pressure got increased ( It is due to excess taking of Vit B6 and at this time my B6 was very high. Pls search abnormal increase in B6 leads to high BP) and I fall down.  At this time only, due to urgency, I gone to Kumar's Clinic for the first time, where he has given first aid treatment and drips. 

There he came to know the self medication taken by me and I told all my problems.  If I would have not taken the B6 tablet, I would have never fall down (due to side effect of excess increase) and never met Mr.Kumar in my life. 

Thanks to you for showing a way of path to my doctor where I find the cure.

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« Reply #18539 on: 29/07/2013 14:46:21 »
DO you know that  do the liver flush you  drink juices all week and  fast and then drink   mangesium salts to flush out  your instestines.   Auervedic  stuff is the same as we have here.  Just  fancy  village names. That is my   opinion.

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« Reply #18540 on: 29/07/2013 14:48:18 »
Nathan,  when you take zinc and B6    your  blood pressure  can go up, since copper would come out from  your liver..

If you  continued with this you would be fine.   I have  10s of people who  I cured from  POIS.   Your doctor cured only you.   

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« Reply #18541 on: 29/07/2013 14:49:51 »
And the guy who took what you took is not  cured.   

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« Reply #18542 on: 29/07/2013 14:51:42 »
And it is very  easy to   just say you  guys need a detox...WE ALREADY KNEW THAT.   that is not a theory

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« Reply #18543 on: 29/07/2013 14:55:28 »
and if you took zinc for 25 days as you say, that could be that helped you in the end.

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« Reply #18544 on: 29/07/2013 15:30:36 »
Nathan has   high estradiol on his blood test, and  took zinc for 25 days, after which he claims he had  high blood pressure  from B6, ok that is possible.  But  zinc   decreased  your estradiol  100% / and    then he met  Kumar.  you guys are funny.    Zinc decreased your  estradiol  my friend.  Then you drank  vitamin C  to  increase your sodum level  and you were fine,

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« Reply #18545 on: 29/07/2013 17:31:47 »
Nathan, 

I go by  the science that was   founded by dr Eck, who was  world class biochemist and who cured  huge number of people from all kind of deseases including cancer and diabetes and  alzheimers  and parkinsons. I dont make this stuff up.  And  I  go by blood and  hair tests, which  show me exactly what is  going on.  That is why it is hard for me to  accept some  theories that are based on  nothing.   I have  over hundreds of tests from people and many many hairtests. I see where the problem is exactly.

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« Reply #18546 on: 29/07/2013 18:44:06 »
I go by  the science that was   founded by dr Eck, who was  world class biochemist and who cured  huge number of people from all kind of deseases including cancer and diabetes and  alzheimers  and parkinsons ...

Is that the same "Dr. Paul C. Eck " who founded " Analytical Research Laboratories Inc " in  Arizona ? ...

Quote from: quackwatch.com
In 1986, Analytical Research Laboratories (ARL) of Phoenix, Arizona signed a consent agreement with the New York State Attorney General to stop "soliciting and accepting hair specimens for laboratory examination where the purpose is to determine possible excesses of deficiencies in nutrient mineral levels or toxic metal levels in the body."
http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/hair.html

... dr Eck, who was  world class biochemist and who cured  huge number of people from all kind of deseases including cancer and diabetes and  alzheimers  and parkinsons ...

The idea that any person has or can be cured of Alzheimer's is absurd : the disease causes irreversible damage to their brain ...

Quote from: nih.gov
A cure for AD [ Alzheimer's Disease] appears unlikely when significant cognitive loss has occurred because the neuronal networks that controlled the perturbed cognitive abilities are either dead or irreversibly damaged and replacing them, even if it were technically possible, would not reconstruct the intellectual identity of the host.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20182017

A therapy which allegedly cures a wide range of unrelated illnesses, i.e. a panacea, usually cures nothing except fat-wallet syndrome.

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« Reply #18547 on: 29/07/2013 18:55:19 »
RD,

it is not a pancea, it wont work  on alzheimers on  every case,  although I  saw people  who got rid of  so called uncurable desease.
I know people who got rid of cancer  this year.  I cured myself of  POIS and dystonia, some people on russian forum came out and  claimed  POIS free,  you can check that also.  And I had  diabetes and ichemia  people cured

So please., give facts  not some   bs articles.

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« Reply #18548 on: 29/07/2013 18:59:06 »
RD,

QUACK watch  is for someone who does not know how to read that stuff.  I  compared  a lot of work comparing blood and  hair and urine at the same time. And it all  matched,   we even  compared blood  and hair with some people on this forum ,   and  those people got much better by  balancing what we found. 

It is funny  how can biochemistry   be quack?     Hair at ARL perfectly matches    blood,    I mean    pefectly.   I am not sure  about other labs, I dont even try them.  PLus I can balance a person  from  blood tests also.   

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« Reply #18549 on: 29/07/2013 19:04:05 »
I dont work for ARL and I  make no money  helping people, I  change ARL programs when I think they are wrong.  But   ARLs hairtest is the best in the industry. Their corrective programs have  many  questions