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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19060 on: 18/11/2013 08:16:26 »
Quote from: John21 on 17/11/2013 21:34:59
I haven't contributed for a while as I have been completely O-free for a long time. But last night I had an NE but I am happy to report that I have no POIS effects.


Hello John21, i noticed some other POIS sufferers dont present symptoms from NocturnalEmission's just like you (speaking for me also) or very mild symptoms that clear very quick.So I was thinking, if we dont present symptoms in NE's then why we dont look up the differences between sperm contained in NE's with sperm contained in Orgasm or what procedures does ejaculation follows in NE's compared to orgasm so we can find the cause of the problem.I think its something worth searching.What do you think ?
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19061 on: 18/11/2013 11:25:47 »
I have always experienced POIS with an NE, so if it happens that I don't, it is very unusual. The only thing that has reduced the symptoms in the past have been diet related, mainly eating anti-inflammatory foods.

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« Reply #19062 on: 18/11/2013 18:06:02 »
Hi everyone!

Every time i take a heavy sh1t in bathroom, i have a sperm leakage.

Nocturnal emissions gives me less symptoms.

Staying away from porn has effect for me.

Trying allergy pills now.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19063 on: 18/11/2013 23:29:04 »
Quote from: B_Jim on 18/11/2013 16:20:40
That's good news John ! There is no difference between NE and normal orgasm for me too. You must continue your experience to see if it works several times.
From my experience, you need a lot of food to hope a real but small effect. I will have a look on these beans (I think I eat same familly of these beans but maybe a different version).

Edit :
Yes, some studies showed a improvement of Parkinson's disease with these beans.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1527547?dopt=Citation
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10634260?dopt=Citation

It's a really good idea ! 250g of beans 5-10 hours before orgasm.
It seems all these bean are the same family or close, probably all contains L-Dopa : "broad beans", "fèves" (in french). I would say I usually eat them 2 or 3 times a year.

I wonder if your finding could be a real test for Pois sufferers to know once and for all if dopamine is part of Pois or not.

BJim, Fava beans come in two types: the broad beans which I think are in that picture, and smaller roundish ones. The smaller ones are what I have been eating. They are much better to eat, as they are more mashable, and I think they are also less tough. They can sometimes be hard to find at the grocery store, if there is a Thai food section they might be in that. I found mine at a middle-east grocery store.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19064 on: 19/11/2013 13:06:22 »
Had strong POIS from urinating ,it had some sperm in it..I was at workplace and after that it was hell for mr :-[
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19065 on: 19/11/2013 14:37:28 »
Quote from: gondal4 on 19/11/2013 13:06:22
Had strong POIS from urinating ,it had some sperm in it.

Possibly previously* there had been retrograde ejaculation

[ * maybe nocturnal ] 
« Last Edit: 19/11/2013 14:42:39 by RD »
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« Reply #19066 on: 20/11/2013 08:18:48 »
Orgasm last night. Hardly any symptoms this morning. Here is how i did it.

No masturbation or porn for 6+ months.

Prior to sex, urinate and take allergy pill.
During sex use condom for less sensitivity.
During sex stay under the sheets and remain warm.
Upon climax, just relax and do not aim for the extreme orgasm.
Never ever try to not orgasm or keep the seminal fluid in the penis.
After orgasm, remain in bed for minimum 5 minutes and calm down.
Remove condom and clean yourself with a towel without leaving the bed.
Sleep.
Wake up symptom free.

...

Edit: symptom free lasted for about 20h, now feeling some cold coming up. No cognitive problems.
Also felt many emotions of sex urge, had to have more.
« Last Edit: 20/11/2013 18:00:37 by johanstefansson »
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19067 on: 20/11/2013 18:58:23 »
go vegan.go gluten and casein free and start  vitamin b12 and vitamin d supplements. intially mega doses.pois will clear.try it.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19068 on: 21/11/2013 16:12:44 »
After sex i truly have no immune defense what so ever.

What has the forum come up with so far about the possibility of this being a sexually transmittable infection?
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19069 on: 21/11/2013 21:50:42 »
Quote from: johanstefansson on 21/11/2013 16:12:44
After sex i truly have no immune defense what so ever.

What has the forum come up with so far about the possibility of this being a sexually transmittable infection?

Not quite as dramatic as you say J otherwise you would be getting sick to a lot more things then just a cold, and you would be succumbing to them just like AIDS patients. For me when I was younger I did notice how I would often seem to get a cold the day after having an O, but it would not be continuous throughout the year. Generally only through the flu seasons. It would be a case of many people in the office having the flu and I would be fine for the week, but then when I have an O, bam I'd get the flu the next day. This was during my teens + 20s, but not anymore. I do have an irregular immune system though. What I do have is Lymphopenia with reduced Neutrophils, T Cells and Lymphocytes. The doctors did not do anything about it as I hardly ever get any infections anymore (which is weird in that now I never get a cold) so they seem to think the lower numbers are coping well. I was diagnosed with Lyme disease earlier this year, so that supposedly might explain my irregular lymphocyte subsets.

As for STD, I got POIS before I had sex in my teens and I feel that is the same situation for quite a few others here. It is not an STD. I have had STD checks done in past years and came back clear.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19070 on: 22/11/2013 22:00:57 »
Quote from: B_Jim on 18/11/2013 16:20:40
That's good news John ! There is no difference between NE and normal orgasm for me too. You must continue your experience to see if it works several times.
From my experience, you need a lot of food to hope a real but small effect. I will have a look on these beans (I think I eat same familly of these beans but maybe a different version).

Edit :
Yes, some studies showed a improvement of Parkinson's disease with these beans.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1527547?dopt=Citation
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10634260?dopt=Citation

It's a really good idea ! 250g of beans 5-10 hours before orgasm.
It seems all these bean are the same family or close, probably all contains L-Dopa : "broad beans", "fèves" (in french). I would say I usually eat them 2 or 3 times a year.



I wonder if your finding could be a real test for Pois sufferers to know once and for all if dopamine is part of Pois or not.
Good luck B-Jim. From years ago I though dopamine was a big factor in pois. It has been discussed here a few times, but going back a couple of years. I am certain I am low in that neurotransmitter. I did the Dr Eric Braveman neurotransmitter profile questionnaire, and I came up very low in dopamine. The advice was to see a doctor to have it dealt with as it was so low. Nice in theory, but most doctors cant see past serotonin & noradrenaline. Because there are higher risks with dopamine treatment they will just talk you into trying a bunch of SSRI to cover themselves.

I have tried 2 dopamine stimulating compounds.
I tried the herb Mucuna pruriens which is made from the Velvet bean and which contains L-Dopa. I have tried it a number of times using different sources and had a mixed results. There is a lot of farmed & unstandardized herbs out there that while technically can sold as being that herb they are inferior. Try ginseng that's grown in a pot in your backyard and then try some that's grown in the mountains of Manchukuo, and you'll notice a massive difference.

This year I decided to trial the med Sinemet (levodopa + carbidopa). I have to say it has been a disappointment in terms of pois or my general well being. I do definitely have better nights sleep and I have more dreams & interesting ones, so it is not without merit. I had to take it before bed as it made me sleepy which surprised me a little. But in terms of improving my brain fog, creativity, motivation, low level depression, libido, and general sense of pleasure in things, it did not make a big difference. I only used a dose at what would be considered low level (1 tab/night)
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19071 on: 24/11/2013 01:30:25 »
Quote from: acronym on 21/11/2013 21:50:42
Quote from: johanstefansson on 21/11/2013 16:12:44
After sex i truly have no immune defense what so ever.

What has the forum come up with so far about the possibility of this being a sexually transmittable infection?

How did they diagnose you with Lyme dicease?

Not quite as dramatic as you say J otherwise you would be getting sick to a lot more things then just a cold, and you would be succumbing to them just like AIDS patients. For me when I was younger I did notice how I would often seem to get a cold the day after having an O, but it would not be continuous throughout the year. Generally only through the flu seasons. It would be a case of many people in the office having the flu and I would be fine for the week, but then when I have an O, bam I'd get the flu the next day. This was during my teens + 20s, but not anymore. I do have an irregular immune system though. What I do have is Lymphopenia with reduced Neutrophils, T Cells and Lymphocytes. The doctors did not do anything about it as I hardly ever get any infections anymore (which is weird in that now I never get a cold) so they seem to think the lower numbers are coping well. I was diagnosed with Lyme disease earlier this year, so that supposedly might explain my irregular lymphocyte subsets.

As for STD, I got POIS before I had sex in my teens and I feel that is the same situation for quite a few others here. It is not an STD. I have had STD checks done in past years and came back clear.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19072 on: 24/11/2013 08:40:39 »
Hello friends..I would like to ask a few questions.
>Do you have trouble speaking clearly and communicating ?
>do you feel that your teeth create a hurdle for your tongue to move easily in your mouth?

(ive discussed with my psychiatrist and a possible solution can be found out soon .. he wants you to answer this questions. )
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19073 on: 24/11/2013 11:09:56 »
Yes, i have retrognathia and my lower jaw is shorter than the upper. So for both questions: yes. Whats his theory?
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19074 on: 24/11/2013 14:01:55 »
Yes,I have trouble speaking clearly and communicating,I can't find words.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19075 on: 24/11/2013 19:32:19 »
Quote from: hurray on 13/11/2013 13:07:57

Any news on how the POIS research is going with the $30,000 NORD grant? Or any news on when there will be some more news?

Quote from: Kima on 16/11/2013 17:26:40

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When will the [POIS] research [begin with NORD]?

thank you


This December.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19076 on: 24/11/2013 21:14:15 »
Hi, i have retrognathia and problems with speaking. Obstructive sleeping upnoe is common with retrognathia and some men have similar symtoms like Pois, CPAP machine would help. Has anyone tried?
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19077 on: 25/11/2013 13:20:24 »
Quote from: demografx on 24/11/2013 19:32:19
Quote from: hurray on 13/11/2013 13:07:57

Any news on how the POIS research is going with the $30,000 NORD grant? Or any news on when there will be some more news?

Quote from: Kima on 16/11/2013 17:26:40

hello
demografx
 
When will the [POIS] research [begin with NORD]?

thank you


This December.

I should be getting an update first week in December, maybe not who or what yet, but they are in the final throes of choosing the researcher.

So very soon we should know.

The first real professionally administered and controlled research on POIS.

Whatever the results, it will have to be useful.

I'll let you all know when the news comes out.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19078 on: 25/11/2013 14:18:40 »
daveman

I and my Russian friends will be waiting impatiently

thank you


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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19079 on: 25/11/2013 16:24:51 »
Quote from: Starsky on 24/11/2013 11:09:56
Yes, i have retrognathia and my lower jaw is shorter than the upper. So for both questions: yes. Whats his theory?

That's interesting, I have the same problem.  I wonder how many other POISers have this? I also have speech issues, I needed speech therapy as a youth.

EDIT: Other notable bone/joint issues for me are pectus excavatum (bowl chest) and hyper-mobile joints.

I also have difficulty moving the upper-left side of my mouth, which is sort of reminiscent of a bell's palsy. My mouth is also small and I have had a lot of feedback about my smile being "strange" (sounds bad how I worded it haha). But truly I'm not able to give a big grin mainly because of physical restrictions, and probably a little from neurological ones too.
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