[Starsky]

I am really sorry eur79m it did not help you. Pois does has nothing to do with sperm, you would get it even with both testicles removed as Animus did. Just stoping all seminal fluids from being ejaculated helped.

[MrVat7]

Hey eur79m
Humans and other vertebrate mammals have a sperm-testis barrier, which is usually hard to breach. And the reason for blood-testis is none of the both are made to come in contact with each other. You have got relief from POIS for 3y after removal of one testis is completely acceptable. Also your inflammation in testis. Here it's how causes POIS and how did you got relief and it all started again. If the blood-testis barrier is once breached and unable to heal back, or if you had undergone some kind of mutation,your testis may keep sperm spilling into your bloodstream, which will not be accepted by your immune system, So,What about the pain in testis? Your immunity continuesly keeps attacking damaged testicle which spills sperms, immune system sees your testis as a source of foreign body and tries to destroy it , eventually inflaming your testicle. So when you had your testicle removed, no sperms were getting spilled and no POIS. Now, the other testicle has started the spill. I don't want to scare you out but you will get same pain as earlier, so get prepared. Your immunologist had gave you all placebos. You might had failed to convince him. Go and try once again , you might like to discuss things about this forum, ask him for REAL immune suppressors. I had Alopecia areata earlier, it is also a autoimmune based cause. Sometimes immune system mistakes few of OWN body cells as of those foreign body (sperm here) and kills it, Few of my hair follicles were killed that way getting me a bald spot. Fortunately it healed back, I still loose hair sometimes after an ejaculation, In a few the insulin making cells in pancreas may be killed by the immune system as a consequence of POIS.

MrVat7

[MrVat7]

Hi Starsky,
Is it not Seminal vesicle producing seminal fluid and testis producing sperms. If Reducing seminal fluids helps then seminal vesicle and Cowper's gland must be removed, how is he getting pain in testis then ?   

[Starsky]

He got inflamation in testicle from POIS which is an chemical imbalance.It took Animus some time after he removed seminal vescicles and shrinked prostate to get the balance back. Removing the testis does not cure POIS so its not sperm in your brain 

[MrVat7]

 After one gets his testis removed , he still may feel symptoms for some days , and those symptoms automatically shut down within a few days. Also according to you starsky, how does taking immunosupressor help in pois ? And what about hormonal imbalance ? and which hormone imbalance? also there are also hormone suppressors , so why to remove testis and seminal vesicle for hormones?  Root cause POIS in the reproductive system , and if one is removing his reproductive organs then it is sure to get rid of pois, but the thing is not everyone can afford to remove their precious organs. That too reproductive ones ? lol few here still have to make kids.

[MrVat7]

We might like to hold on and think about a minimum invasive technique in curing POIS. People keep focusing on SSBT and try if you can prove it wrong. Keep Posting some phenomena which may not explained by SSBT, or how you have come to know the cause about your POIS symptoms ,supporting SSBT. We can have a debate kind of thing here.

MrVat7

[Kima]

MrVat7
you do not have any evidence of your theory
And who are you by profession ?

How do you explain that Daniel was cured using Boldueva?

thank you

[bombero]

Just wanted to mention that Kima has been banned from the russian forum for a long time now. You can't fully appreciate his stupidity because his using of google translate to post here. But you can sense it a bit watching his changing his mind. At one point he claims being cured by Germany (LOL), a week later he curses Herman.
You certainly can discuss your scientific theories with him here but it makes me laugh.

[Kima]

Bombero
I do not sit at the Russian forum, because the idiots on this forum as you.


Gbolduev tells people that they have written to the forum If people refuse to listen Boldueva he refuses help
 

[MrVat7]

MrVat7
you do not have any evidence of your theory
And who are you by profession ?

How do you explain that Daniel was cured using Boldueva?

I am still studying, no profession yet. SSBT is a hypothesis. It still needs to be verified at laboratory level.According to SSBT deniel and Gbloduev did never had POIS. An infection inside the body causes the same immunological reaction that a POISer suffers but it is not POIS. After getting an infection if he gets orgasm he may feel that the symptoms are due to orgasm but actually not. After if one removes that infected body part he's alright. And that is why removal infected tonsils and wisdom tooth helped them. POIS starts from puberty. Gbolduev started feeling symptoms when he was 30 and then was later back to normal. He got himself diagnosed wrong.

I will be free after four months from now, so then I will collect my resources and start to verify for SSBT. Untill now all the pois symptoms have been satisfactorily explained by SSBT, you might like to check out earlier posts of mine.

MrVat7

[B_Daniel]

I'm just going to repeat myself because nobody seemed to hear me: As a 2.5 year NSF forum member, I am claiming for the first time ever that I'm completely CURED.  not just feeling a little better.  And this is over a period of months, not 1 night like most of you deem is relevant to post about.

While I'm finally better after 15 years of POIS and would like to help others feel like I do, I'm not getting any traction so no point in continuing to post.  So this'll be my last post for a while.  If you're interested in my help, send me a PM.  Good luck everyone.

[POIS-SUFFERER]

I'm just going to repeat myself because nobody seemed to hear me: As a 2.5 year NSF forum member, I am claiming for the first time ever that I'm completely CURED.  not just feeling a little better.  And this is over a period of months, not 1 night like most of you deem is relevant to post about.

While I'm finally better after 15 years of POIS and would like to help others feel like I do, I'm not getting any traction so no point in continuing to post.  So this'll be my last post for a while.  If you're interested in my help, send me a PM.  Good luck everyone.

This forum has become very very hard to read now and get good information as everyone seems to have gone crazy! MrVat7 shows up all of a sudden and is an expert, where the hell did he get all the answers?

NO ONE has answers, this whole thing is STILL a mystery.... nothing has been 100% proven by anyone, at least not scientifically.

We need to get back to science.

There are a few on here that really show be listened to any no one is listening..... At this rate no one is being helped....

B_Daniel has a point, and a very good one, he has never cried wolf, time to start listening people!!!!!!!!

PS.

[MrVat7]

B_Daniel
Can you please post summary of how you were cured .

[acronym]

Mate

B_Daniel
Can you please post summary of how you were cured .

he did. Look back about 3 pages.

[MrVat7]

B_Daniel
If you stop taking amino acids , okra pepsin, etc for (lets say)  a year.. would you still feel better after an orgasm? And if you had daily been taking you supplements regularly to fuel up your body of amino acids and then after having consecutive ejaculations for three days ( when your body will still have lot of amino acids, but not took supplements ) would you feel no POIS ? Please let me know.

[Thapelo]

helloo
i read all the posts in this topic
I am sure to have Pois, but my family doctor says its something like a fobie....
I searched and this is what i found:
There is a doctor in Den Haag (the Netherlands) who says to cure people from POIS. You can go to him without prove to have POIS from another doctor.

I will go to him in the new year, and if you guys like it, i will post how he is going to treat me.
I do not know how he does it, but he says that 80% of the people he threats are cured from the POIS.

maybe it is the amino acid treatment, but he did not want to tell me in advance, so thats why i got this limited amount of information

Lars

[Kima]

lars
Hi, in the Netherlands is the only doctor who treats symptoms by 80% this doctor Valdingera   http://www.post-orgasmic-illness-syndrome.com/

[Thapelo]

lars
Hi, in the Netherlands is the only doctor who treats symptoms by 80% this doctor Valdingera   http://www.post-orgasmic-illness-syndrome.com/ [nofollow]

He
yes thats what i meant, but i just wanted to share it with you guys, cause i know how annoying this is...
ill post what my experience with this doctor is

[acronym]

lars
Hi, in the Netherlands is the only doctor who treats symptoms by 80% this doctor Valdingera   http://www.post-orgasmic-illness-syndrome.com/

yes thats what i meant, but i just wanted to share it with you guys, cause i know how annoying this is...
ill post what my experience with this doctor is

His treatment is desensitization. He injects (subcutaneously) very diluted amounts of your own semen over a period. I thought a few members of this site had it done but it did not seem to work or it helped a bit but was not a 100% long term success, but I am not sure. His 'semen allergy' theory did not seem to revolutionize too many lives here. I'm not sure how many tired it though. I thought a few tried to get their doctor to help them perform the desensitization treatment but they got knocked back.
I know of a few people who have had this sort of treatment done for other allergies and they used to get success initially but it wore off over the next few years. Good Luck.

[CertainlyPOIS]

lars
Hi, in the Netherlands is the only doctor who treats symptoms by 80% this doctor Valdingera   http://www.post-orgasmic-illness-syndrome.com/

yes thats what i meant, but i just wanted to share it with you guys, cause i know how annoying this is...
ill post what my experience with this doctor is

His treatment is desensitization. He injects (subcutaneously) very diluted amounts of your own semen over a period. I thought a few members of this site had it done but it did not seem to work or it helped a bit but was not a 100% long term success, but I am not sure. His 'semen allergy' theory did not seem to revolutionize too many lives here. I'm not sure how many tired it though. I thought a few tried to get their doctor to help them perform the desensitization treatment but they got knocked back.
I know of a few people who have had this sort of treatment done for other allergies and they used to get success initially but it wore off over the next few years. Good Luck.

There have been about five or six people including me in the forums that have tried dessensistization. I only know of two that are getting great results.
LARS if you want more information go to poiscenter.com and there is a whole section dedicated to dessensitization.