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B_Jim,for "successful treatments", I did not mean 100% successful. Successful as in "some success". I was hoping to elaborate on that in the section, and then build on each "helpful remedy" to develop a different theory for POIS. Rather than having one treatment that will help everyone, I think we may eventually have several different treatments, each helping a different group of people: I think there are multiple causes of POIS. This would have been more clear had I had time to write a lot more. But I don't. I don't really have much time. I don't think one or two of us can quickly write a good article -- e.g. comprehensive but also with little ambiguity. It will take weeks or months. I encourage everyone to edit the wiki page as they see fit. That is the point of wikipedia. If we are going to make a separate website (as per Martin's good suggestion), I definitely encourage one page to be a "wiki" page. e.g. a page that uses "wiki" code, but is not hosted on wikipedia. This is relatively common now, and can be easily implemented. This way we can relax and write a good article at our leisure, and once it is pretty good, post it on wikipedia.Now that it is already on wikipedia, I feel there is this huge pressure to make it good quickly.Anyways, someone edited "successful treatments" to "helpful remedies" so that's good . I hope everyone feels free to edit the wikipedia page. Any edit can be undone, so don't worry about "messing things up", etc.
B_Jim, Counterpoints, Girlwind...everyone, I know I repeat this, but aren't exhaustion and fatigue predominant in defining POIS, not "also rans"? I thought cognitive symptoms were secondary.
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Quote from: demografx on 09/03/2009 20:13:28B_Jim, Counterpoints, Girlwind...everyone, I know I repeat this, but aren't exhaustion and fatigue predominant in defining POIS, not "also rans"? I thought cognitive symptoms were secondary.No, exhaustion should not be used to define POIS. I think we should be general... POIS is characterized by severe symptoms following orgasm.Also, cognitive symptoms are not secondary. We see some cognitive symptoms reported in almost every case. Cognitive symptoms may be secondary to your specific case, though. (Is that so?).And exhaustion could be considered a cognitive symptom. (What do you mean by "also rans"?).
Mental and physical exhaustion is already listed on the wiki article as a primary symptom, with a note that some people with the general cognitive symptom cluster (brain fog, etc.) do not experience this specific symptom. (This was recently revised. Before the note said some people experienced the opposite effect, but I think the present explanation is more clear). It's (and it was) in italics; there is even special emphasis on this point.Also, as I've noted, 'exhaustion' can be considered a cognitive symptom. And I have read most of the cases here. I came at p. 27 of 164, and when I arrived, I read through the first 27 pages. I've also studied the survey responses. I don't remember everything I've read -- maybe someone else remembers better than me -- and I'm sure I've missed things, but I am relatively 'aware' of what has been reported. And based on what I remember, I am not in disagreement. What is the apparent disagreement?