[guest39538]

Aliens....Destroying our destruction, to own destruction, without being a part of it....isn't that a good alien\?

Maybe  we're  the  aliens,  illegal  to  this  rock,  came  from outers pace,  crashed and burned  trying to find another race,  you know like we trying to go to mars, Elon  Must,  sending  cars,  you know it be like fantasy  but you're not right or right if I'll  say I  don't know you.

[opportunity]

If we are those aliens, are we doing rockets?

If we're not doing rockets are we still those aliens?

Why talk about aliens?

Whats the attraction with aliens? Are they the "belief" we need?

One thing that I know is alien to "science" is the ability to think outside a very normal square.

[guest39538]

If we are those aliens, are we doing rockets?

If we're not doing rockets are we still those aliens?

Why talk about aliens?

Whats the attraction with aliens? Are they the "belief" we need?

One thing that I know is alien to "science" is the ability to think outside a very normal square.

Rockets !  over rated  fireworks

Aliens !  Without  a doubt  they  exist  beyond  our  capability of  travel  and  we probably exist  beyond  the capability  of  their  travel.  Aliens  does  not  necessarily  mean  they  would  be  advanced,  they could  well be  primitive,  even  maybe  dinosaurs  on  their  world. Infinite  is  just incomprehensible  to  mediocre minds.

[guest39538]

It's  what  Einstein  meant by  looking  back  into  the  past, it  is  relativity .


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[opportunity]

Box, Einstein looking into the past as a concept of relativity. That's beginning to make sense.


Its very difficult to explain, yet lets say you are "here", yet you exist only here with memories also of "here", no anticipation of the future whatsoever, like a complete mule of understanding. The past is your friend. You remember yourself in a similar environment you are in now. You are "overwhelmed" by reality without any need to think ahead, to be ahead. That's relativity in the past.

[guest39538]

Box, Einstein looking into the past as a concept of relativity. That's beginning to make sense.

see pic add on


add:  You  can  observe  a  born  star  of  the  future  and  you  can  observe  stars  from  the  past,  you're  observing  past  and  future  presently  now 


do you want me to prove this?

[opportunity]

When we have memories, we usually choose one memory over the other, right? It's like something is set in stone. When have you remembered something that had another memory at the same time....like a choice of memory?

[guest39538]

When we have memories, we usually choose one memory over the other, right? It's like something is set in stone. When have you remembered something that had another memory at the same time....like a choice of memory?

Neurological  binary  selection  process,  i.e  choice  of  answers  from  the  memory.   All  answers  could  occupy  a  single  point,  but  is  this  significant?

[opportunity]

We are more capable in choosing the future than the past. Why is consciousness so wired to time? I'm sorry, that concept is irrelevant to ….


Tell me a memory you have that had a choice integrated into it...


I think of my own memories...do I remember choices I had? Or is that too awake? Back then, did I see myself in the future thinking as I think now?


Tell me a dream you've had where you made a choice.,..


When I remember my life, I don't see choices, I see one event to the next. Here, now, I see choices, yet my life moves forward with memories that can't be changed. Does anyone try to change their past?

[guest39538]

I see myself in the future thinking as I think now?

Do  I  see  my  future  ?  Does my  future  look  good  to  me ?   

You  can't  choose  the  future,  paths  of  life  are  random  but  there  is  predictability.    I  can  predict  my  tomorrow  and  that  tomorrow  is  going  to  be  a  bad  day  for  me.   

[opportunity]

ΥSeeing myself in the future looking back on me now, I'm hoping I'm in agreement with myself. I don't want any problem there. Things must be good, right?


But, I look back in my memories, I see events, I don't see choices I can make. Maybe because I can't change the past and my mind knows that and only offers the truth?

I remember watching this:

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=local+hero+movie&view=detail&mid=D4958BF6E772DFE61E65D4958BF6E772DFE61E65&FORM=VIRE0&mmscn=tpvh&ru=%2fsearch%3fq%3dlocal%2bhero%2bmovie%26form%3dEDNTHT%26mkt%3den-au%26httpsmsn%3d1%26refig%3de0f4e74f36f54c72e06710f6f0d54a03%26sp%3d-1%26pq%3dlocal%2bhero%2bmovie%26sc%3d8-16%26qs%3dn%26sk%3d%26cvid%3de0f4e74f36f54c72e06710f6f0d54a03

I had no choice but to enjoy it. Because at the time and maybe even now it still works.
I'm being very serious. Who has a memory that still offers a "choice"?

Is it safe to change what we decided in the past, like we already know the past can't be changed, right?

Is science the compass we're looking for? Could it be..a faith? Who's willing to develop science without changing its fundamental structure...yet still developing?

[Petrochemicals]

Completley seperate from the ongoings.

Science is a religious dogma, as if you oppose it there are large ammounts of people who will object. Take the case of the fellow who discovered cfcs kill the ozone.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/F._Sherwood_Rowland

He was hounded due to academic displeasure, just like any number of martyrs.

[opportunity]

As much as we are told to behave stupidly as policy of the carrying of the cross, we still have the choice to forge for ourselves a way to be even more stupid and challenge almost everything, right?

If one is really very religious, carrying the cross, still seeing how bad everything is without getting cycnical, playing along in the state as a free born citizen, I mean are there christians like that today? Is there a future carrying that cross....on that road.....right.......do we know we're making an effort, an effort that works?

Lets say I carried the cross of Einstein, an idea of relativity I don't agree with but carried it to start with. I carrying it. I always carrying it.....yet I start talking some other language that explains it better.....is that bad?

[opportunity]

Correct me if I am wrong, but Christ "changed" the idea of Roman science.....he demonstrated more was possible....was killed for that....also, right....

Science still wants to debunk him, right, like its a mission.....until science has it....

I don't think Christ was trying to be religious.....people with their need to explain him became religious.....so what's science there?


Was science inspired by Christ? Did Roman science get a kick out of Christ? Can we give an honest answer? How did Rome fall given all it knew with roman science?

[opportunity]

Is Christ the only example of someone who influenced science in history, or the only example we care to remember?

[opportunity]

We use the clock of time according to the time of Christ.


Have we forgotten that?


BC AD.

[opportunity]

Christ had all the hallmarks of a deal that went bad, and he had to wear it.

The deal was clearly something the planet could do without at the time yet people still capable of.

Science probably felt like they weren't ready.....missed out and had to keep searching, right?


Maybe the political situation looked bad....a Caesar who didn't want his media system changed.

[opportunity]

It really comes down to what the idea of truth is or should be.

I mean is this truth:

Being transparent is a truth, I think Heidegger presented that philosophical case, but uncovering a can of worms, is that science?


When someone says they are always trying to tell the truth, but its not always possible owing to political demands, where does hope go|?

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/i-always-try-to-tell-the-truth-trump-pushes-back-against-falsehoods-20181102-p50dih.html

[opportunity]

My point is, if science can be something to be believed, it really needs to be solid......I think science loses points in using Disney animation to explain things.

[Colin2B]

Colin, just wondering, were you implying my work as commercial as something that is frowned upon in this forum, and if so how do you make a crust? I'm merely looking for people to join my research work, or at least "converse" without being spooked. I can take down my website if it worries you as a financial making machine, yes? I don't mind, I really don't, I'd rather talk to people than not know how to design an informational website.

Sorry for delay in responding. I think my comment was made about someone else’s site being ok because it is not commercial.
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