[Salik Imran]

My page is called My ideas on new scientific processes in our bodies: What do you think? It is in the New Theories board. Make sure you reply with something good...

[Bogie_smiles (OP)]

My page is called My ideas on new scientific processes in our bodies: What do you think? It is in the New Theories board. Make sure you reply with something good...

What I think is that you are learning and building on the first skill necessary for doing good science research, that of being observant. My advice is to make a log book of your observations, and over time check them out against what you learn about how science is done. When you begin to see that your observations are new and meaningful, be sure to post them and seek comments from the scientific community. You have a good start!



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[Bogie_smiles (OP)]

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The ISU is a theory/model which describes how he universe was already in existence. I think that the expansion and the rarefaction of the macro waves create the matter in this model. Unfortunately for you, I do not personally believe some of your theory but I have to say, the way you put it across is very convincing and I am sure that with a little bit of tweaking, I might be able to accept it.

No problem, theories, by their nature, are not TRUTH

I get what you are saying about the waves bit I think the universe had a beginning. ...

Why do you think that. Give me an explanation that you feel supports your view that there was a beginning event.


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[Salik Imran]

Hi,
My first reason is that I think that God created the universe. However, he might have created the big bang as a way to create the universe. My second reason is that everything has a starting point. For example, food will not automatically appear on your plate when you want it. You have to work to get the money to buy the food. The food is created from the source, which is the crops/animals. The crops/animals have their source too; the atoms from the big bang and from God.
This is what I think but you do not have to think that. I understand.

Also, how can I keep a log book for my theory on the actions because that one is not based on personal experience? Lastly, do you by any chance have a personal link/ contact with the naked scientists or know anyone that does? I completed a get in touch form over a week ago and they have not come back; If you do, can you please forward my theories onto them.Thanks for replying.
Salik Imran.

[Bogie_smiles (OP)]

Hi,
My first reason is that I think that God created the universe. However, he might have created the big bang as a way to create the universe.

Consider the idea that God and the Universe are one and the same, and both have always existed. That perspective may not be any better for you, but it does encourage a different line of reasoning.

My second reason is that everything has a starting point. For example, food will not automatically appear on your plate when you want it. You have to work to get the money to buy the food. The food is created from the source, which is the crops/animals. The crops/animals have their source too; the atoms from the big bang and from God.
This is what I think but you do not have to think that. I understand.

That's fine, but I don't think that an eternal and infinite universe would have to have a starting point; why couldn't it have always existed. You mention God as the creator of the universe, but I assume you see God as having always existed. It isn't too big a step to go from there to the view that God and the universe are one and the same and that both have always existed.

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Lastly, do you by any chance have a personal link/ contact with the naked scientists or know anyone that does?

No, but just keep trying to reach them like you are and someone will notice and respond.
 
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[Salik Imran]

Maybe, God is immanent( which means actively involves in our lives and sustaining the universe). This does fit into the context.

Also, I like how you presented it and switched it around. Good choice of words.

[Bogie_smiles (OP)]

Maybe, God is immanent (which means actively involved in our lives and sustaining the universe). This does fit into the context.

Also, I like how you presented it and switched it around. Good choice of words.

From a religious perspective, that would mean God has his/her hands full, and from a scientific perspective it would mean that the universe is infinite and eternal and features a sameness when you consider it on a grand scale across endless space and time.



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[Salik Imran]

ok.

[Bogie_smiles (OP)]

ok.

The keys to understanding the ISU model are to be sure you really think about what "infinite and eternal" mean when it comes to the universe.

[Bogie_smiles (OP)]

The keys to understanding the ISU model are to be sure you really think about what "infinite and eternal" mean when it comes to the universe.

And in my view, "infinity" makes room for whatever is possible, given the observations of the matter and energy that make up the known universe and what reasonable speculations are about what those observations may predict about the greater universe.


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And "eternity" makes room for all of those things that are possible to happen here and there, now and then.


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[Salik Imran]

That’s fine

[Bogie_smiles (OP)]

So getting down to Earth, what is real? Is there a reality that is common to us all, or do we each live in our individual realities?

PSI   I don't think anyone in my circle doubts that the universe is real, but in our minds, do we practice |personal sober imagining| ?

"Sober" imagining means imagining things that are real or can really occur or be true.

[Bogie_smiles (OP)]

 It is like thinking ahead in game play. You know that each move, in chess for example, has consequences. Good chess players think ahead so that the move they make now will serve both offense and defense.






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[Bogie_smiles (OP)]

Infinity and eternity cannot be proven physically. Logically though, is there any doubt? I'd like to hear about it if there is.


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No one seems to doubt that infinite and eternal are two logical characteristics of the universe.  Can we call that settled? So where does that thinking take us?


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[Bogie_smiles (OP)]

An infinite and eternal universe does seem to be the appropriate natural solution to questions about how there could ever have been a beginning; so it is easy enough to rationalize. And it doesn't require Supernatural intervention or a prior "state of nothingness".


That answer is that there was no beginning; the universe has always existed.


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[Bogie_smiles (OP)]

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That answer is that there was no beginning; the universe has always existed.

Supposing that is true, would it make any difference?

I think so, because in an infinite and eternal universe, big bangs would be normal events, resulting in expanding Big Bang arenas that would converge and interact. (Look out for incoming, Lol)


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[Bogie_smiles (OP)]

And Big Bangs are not creation events, they are not something from nothing. They are the consequences of interactions of matter and energy that has always existed.


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[Bogie_smiles (OP)]

Being that there is an infinite amount of energy in an infinite universe, distant arenas and our own observable arena of space share the characteristic of a "sameness of vast expanses". How vast must an expanse of space be to display this sameness? I would say that it must be more vast than all that we can presently observe, which is my personal acknowledgment that what we can see probably isn't a perfect reflection of a representative vastness.

What I am suggesting is that as you increase the size of the expanse that is being examined, there is a non-zero probability that something "as yet unknown" will be encompassed in the new expanse. That means that there could be an infinite variety of things out there in the vast expanse.


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[Bogie_smiles (OP)]

I generally rule out the Supernatural but with a potentially infinite variety of different things out there in the vast expanse, I'm sure some things, if encountered out there, could seem beyond belief. Not saying there is a Vulcan mind probe, but there are possibilities,  lol.


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[evan_au]

No one seems to doubt that infinite and eternal are two logical characteristics of the universe.

That might have been true a century ago.

But with Hubble's discovery of the expansion of the universe, people realized that the universe can't have been eternal in the past.

And when the lifecycle of stars and black holes was understood, people realized that the universe will look very different in the future (and very run-down). So if the universe is very different in the future, does that make it eternal in the future?