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Does man's use of energy in the last 200 years mean global warming is man-made?

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Re: Does man's use of energy in the last 200 years mean global warming is man-made?
« Reply #180 on: 08/05/2021 13:01:20 »
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 08/05/2021 12:01:25
Quote from: The Spoon on 08/05/2021 10:55:18
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 08/05/2021 09:13:44
Quote from: Kryptid on 08/05/2021 04:19:59
You hear that? Puppypower knows more about climate science than the actual climate scientists do. Either that, or actual climate scientists are in on a conspiracy.
Either that or they are in denial once again, as was seen in the cfc and ozone hole argument.
So who do you think discovered that a hole was present in the ozone layer with the causative agent being CFCs? An artists collective?
Who do you think is correct? You or a rabid badger?
Nicely antagonistic answer. Does not answer my question though.
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Re: Does man's use of energy in the last 200 years mean global warming is man-made?
« Reply #181 on: 08/05/2021 13:26:08 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 08/05/2021 04:19:59
Either that, or actual climate scientists are in on a conspiracy.
He knows it is a liberal conspiracy!
Quote from: puppypower on 13/04/2021 14:53:05
These reading s has been added to the modern average. This is a way to game the system. You scan the earth for high points and plant there.
Yep, all the climate scientists are all democrats.  Apparently universities will only allow liberals, commies and democrats into advanced climate studies.
I guess climate scientist hate the thought of free enterprise and prosperity and want to suppress the world economies for their own nefarious reasons.

That or puppypower is spouting more of his typical nonsense.
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Re: Does man's use of energy in the last 200 years mean global warming is man-made?
« Reply #182 on: 08/05/2021 15:26:15 »
Quote from: The Spoon on 08/05/2021 13:01:20
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 08/05/2021 12:01:25
Quote from: The Spoon on 08/05/2021 10:55:18
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 08/05/2021 09:13:44
Quote from: Kryptid on 08/05/2021 04:19:59
You hear that? Puppypower knows more about climate science than the actual climate scientists do. Either that, or actual climate scientists are in on a conspiracy.
Either that or they are in denial once again, as was seen in the cfc and ozone hole argument.
So who do you think discovered that a hole was present in the ozone layer with the causative agent being CFCs? An artists collective?
Who do you think is correct? You or a rabid badger?
Nicely antagonistic answer. Does not answer my question though.
Mahhhhh, I am rubber though.
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Re: Does man's use of energy in the last 200 years mean global warming is man-made?
« Reply #183 on: 08/05/2021 16:47:56 »
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 08/05/2021 09:13:44
Either that or they are in denial once again,

Yes, the majority of those educated in science who acquire and analyze the evidence firsthand, worldwide, are in denial. Right...
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Re: Does man's use of energy in the last 200 years mean global warming is man-made?
« Reply #184 on: 08/05/2021 23:05:45 »
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 08/05/2021 15:26:15
Quote from: The Spoon on 08/05/2021 13:01:20
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 08/05/2021 12:01:25
Quote from: The Spoon on 08/05/2021 10:55:18
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 08/05/2021 09:13:44
Quote from: Kryptid on 08/05/2021 04:19:59
You hear that? Puppypower knows more about climate science than the actual climate scientists do. Either that, or actual climate scientists are in on a conspiracy.
Either that or they are in denial once again, as was seen in the cfc and ozone hole argument.
So who do you think discovered that a hole was present in the ozone layer with the causative agent being CFCs? An artists collective?
Who do you think is correct? You or a rabid badger?
Nicely antagonistic answer. Does not answer my question though.
Mahhhhh, I am rubber though.
Yes, looking at what you post, I rather suspect that you are.
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Re: Does man's use of energy in the last 200 years mean global warming is man-made?
« Reply #185 on: 09/05/2021 05:25:56 »
Quote from: The Spoon on 08/05/2021 23:05:45

Yes, looking at what you post, I rather suspect that you are.
Gad zooks, you are a bounder Sirand no mistake, but I shall have satisfaction I say.
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Re: Does man's use of energy in the last 200 years mean global warming is man-made?
« Reply #186 on: 09/05/2021 05:39:24 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 08/05/2021 16:47:56
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 08/05/2021 09:13:44
Either that or they are in denial once again,

Yes, the majority of those educated in science who acquire and analyze the evidence firsthand, worldwide, are in denial. Right...
Is the answer any person who has come to a bad scienceconclusion, has done bad science or has had a scientific boo boo is not a scientist ? If so I see your point, as scientific linkage is unasailable and is therefore impervious to incorrectness by definition. If on the other hand we bring in, let's say thalidomide, you will find it leaves a bad taste in the mouth sometimes. But I suspect your answer will be that because that was an  incorrect treatment, it is therefore not representative of science. In that case you are telling me the obvious. Right is right and wrong is wrong, but I already know that. Your linking of yourself to logic and fact without a defined position yourself is  nothing more than antagonism and egotism.
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Re: Does man's use of energy in the last 200 years mean global warming is man-made?
« Reply #187 on: 09/05/2021 05:45:54 »
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 09/05/2021 05:39:24
But I suspect your answer will be that because that was an  incorrect treatment, it is therefore not representative of science.

You won't be hearing me say that, fortunately. It's actually an excellent example of science: the ability to change position once better evidence is brought in. If there is significant evidence that anthropogenic climate change isn't happening, that roughly 97% consensus of climate scientists apparently haven't found it yet. It's not like one can blame it on some kind of political agenda either, as climate scientists worldwide are in consensus on it. If it was politically-motivated, you'd expect climate scientists in different countries to be in broad disagreement with each other because politics is varied across the planet.
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Re: Does man's use of energy in the last 200 years mean global warming is man-made?
« Reply #188 on: 09/05/2021 07:35:13 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 09/05/2021 05:45:54
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 09/05/2021 05:39:24
But I suspect your answer will be that because that was an  incorrect treatment, it is therefore not representative of science.

You won't be hearing me say that, fortunately. It's actually an excellent example of science: the ability to change position once better evidence is brought in. If there is significant evidence that anthropogenic climate change isn't happening, that roughly 97% consensus of climate scientists apparently haven't found it yet. It's not like one can blame it on some kind of political agenda either, as climate scientists worldwide are in consensus on it. If it was politically-motivated, you'd expect climate scientists in different countries to be in broad disagreement with each other because politics is varied across the planet.
What does that have anything to with being in denial ? Confirmation bias is a well known term applied in some senarios to people such as scientists who refuse to entertain the idea they are incorrect.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

But then again I suppose that's wrong too.
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Re: Does man's use of energy in the last 200 years mean global warming is man-made?
« Reply #189 on: 09/05/2021 14:47:29 »
97% of the world's climate scientists are in denial? Really? To suggest that some subgroup of scientists are in denial would be one thing, but to say that climate scientists, internationally, with different cultural backgrounds overwhelmingly came to the same conclusion about climate change because of confirmation bias or denial stretches credibility. The data is there. The Earth has steadily been getting warmer since the beginning of the industrial revolution.
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Re: Does man's use of energy in the last 200 years mean global warming is man-made?
« Reply #190 on: 09/05/2021 15:27:56 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 09/05/2021 14:47:29
97% of the world's climate scientists are in denial? Really? To suggest that some subgroup of scientists are in denial would be one thing, but to say that climate scientists, internationally, with different cultural backgrounds overwhelmingly came to the same conclusion about climate change because of confirmation bias or denial stretches credibility. The data is there. The Earth has steadily been getting warmer since the beginning of the industrial revolution.
Rather ambiguous and egotistical.
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Re: Does man's use of energy in the last 200 years mean global warming is man-made?
« Reply #191 on: 09/05/2021 17:55:08 »
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 09/05/2021 15:27:56
Rather ambiguous and egotistical
What Kryptid said was neither ambiguous nor egotistical.
As they say, "I don't think you know what that word means".
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Re: Does man's use of energy in the last 200 years mean global warming is man-made?
« Reply #192 on: 09/05/2021 20:13:00 »
Quote from: Origin on 09/05/2021 17:55:08
What Kryptid said was neither ambiguous nor egotistical.
It might be ambiguous if you don't understand irony.
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Re: Does man's use of energy in the last 200 years mean global warming is man-made?
« Reply #193 on: 09/05/2021 22:22:56 »
Quote from: Origin on 09/05/2021 17:55:08
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 09/05/2021 15:27:56
Rather ambiguous and egotistical
What Kryptid said was neither ambiguous nor egotistical.
As they say, "I don't think you know what that word means".
Egotistical, vain and biased
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Re: Does man's use of energy in the last 200 years mean global warming is man-made?
« Reply #194 on: 09/05/2021 23:15:25 »
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 09/05/2021 22:22:56
Quote from: Origin on 09/05/2021 17:55:08
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 09/05/2021 15:27:56
Rather ambiguous and egotistical
What Kryptid said was neither ambiguous nor egotistical.
As they say, "I don't think you know what that word means".
Egotistical, vain and biased

Feel free to explain your reasoning.
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Re: Does man's use of energy in the last 200 years mean global warming is man-made?
« Reply #195 on: 09/05/2021 23:26:53 »
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 09/05/2021 22:22:56
Egotistical, vain and biased
You claim that those words apply to someone for stating that climate scientist think man made global warming is real?  You really don't know what those words mean.
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Re: Does man's use of energy in the last 200 years mean global warming is man-made?
« Reply #196 on: 10/05/2021 13:12:38 »
Quote from: Origin on 09/05/2021 23:26:53

You claim that those words apply to someone for stating that climate scientist think man made global warming is real?  You really don't know what those words mean.
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 09/05/2021 22:22:56
Egotistical, vain and biased
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Re: Does man's use of energy in the last 200 years mean global warming is man-made?
« Reply #197 on: 10/05/2021 20:05:36 »
Is it egotistical to say that the majority of biologists are probably not in denial if they are in agreement that evolution happens? Is it egotistical to say that the majority of astronomers are probably not in denial if they are in agreement that the closest star to the Sun is Proxima Centauri? Is it egotistical to say that the majority of geologists are probably not in denial if they are in agreement that the Earth is billions of years old? If not, why is it suddenly egotistical when it comes to climate scientists having a consensus about climate change?

I can tell you what actually is egotistical: armchair researchers thinking they know more about the climate than actual climate scientists.
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Re: Does man's use of energy in the last 200 years mean global warming is man-made?
« Reply #198 on: 11/05/2021 07:42:06 »
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Is it egotistical to say that the majority of biologists are probably not in denial if they are in agreement that evolution happens? Is it egotistical to say that the majority of astronomers are probably not in denial if they are in agreement that the closest star to the Sun is Proxima Centauri? Is it egotistical to say that the majority of geologists are probably not in denial if they are in agreement that the Earth is billions of years old? If not, why is it suddenly egotistical when it comes to climate scientists having a consensus about climate change?

I can tell you what actually is egotistical: armchair researchers thinking they know more about the climate than actual climate scientists.
Nope that is very ambiguous and diversive.
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Re: Does man's use of energy in the last 200 years mean global warming is man-made?
« Reply #199 on: 11/05/2021 15:25:17 »
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 11/05/2021 07:42:06
Nope that is very ambiguous

If you think that's ambiguous, then I don't know what else to tell you.

Quote from: Petrochemicals on 11/05/2021 07:42:06
and diversive.

How? https://www.badasstoysforbadassboys.com/diversive.html
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