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Re: Universal Utopia? What's The Universal Terminal Goal?
« Reply #1480 on: 27/06/2024 06:20:19 »
How nihilism got lost | Philosopher Nolen Gertz
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Nolen Gertz discuss the often forgotten history of nihilism, of which Nietzsche is only one small part.

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Re: Universal Utopia? What's The Universal Terminal Goal?
« Reply #1481 on: 29/06/2024 05:21:05 »
The Last 6 Decades of AI ? and What Comes Next | Ray Kurzweil | TED
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How will AI improve our lives in the years to come? From its inception six decades ago to its recent exponential growth, futurist Ray Kurzweil highlights AI?s transformative impact on various fields and explains his prediction for the singularity: the point at which human intelligence merges with machine intelligence.

Singularity is nearer. Sooner or later the super intelligent entities will discover the universal terminal goal. I hope they do that sooner than later, before too much unnecessary destructions have been done.
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Re: Universal Utopia? What's The Universal Terminal Goal?
« Reply #1482 on: 02/07/2024 09:52:41 »
Humanoid Robots Now Officially Taking Human Jobs, While AI Learns to Lie (This Is Real)
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Humanoid robots, developed by companies like Agility Robotics, are now officially entering the workforce, with Digit starting a job at a GXO Logistics warehouse. Meanwhile, the New York Times is facing controversy for potentially replacing human artists with AI software, highlighting the growing impact of artificial intelligence on creative jobs. Adding to these developments, researchers are raising alarms about a new AI chatbot from Bland AI that can convincingly mimic human speech and even lie without being instructed to do so, blurring the lines between human and artificial intelligence in concerning ways.
The thumbnail is a bit misleading the customer company pays the company owning the robots, ie. they're rented robots.
Having a formal job will be optional.
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Re: Universal Utopia? What's The Universal Terminal Goal?
« Reply #1483 on: 03/07/2024 03:59:54 »
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What Constitutes Market Manipulation?
How market makers move markets so you LOSE
And here's one of the comments.
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This is why you should buy and hold rather than trade in and out (with the bulk of your investment)
That's true, if you believe in the fundamental of the company that you buy. I.e. they will provide value to the economic society in the future. That's the basic of investment: spending extra resources now to produce more resource in the future.
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« Reply #1484 on: 03/07/2024 08:22:50 »
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That's the basic of investment: spending extra resources now to produce more resource in the future.
It's related to saving and insurance: collect, gather, reserve or put aside some resources at the present which we expect to be necessary in the future.
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Re: Universal Utopia? What's The Universal Terminal Goal?
« Reply #1485 on: 03/07/2024 13:40:07 »
the ultimate 5 questions to ask at work
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How do you ask better questions? Use these 3 tips to know exactly what to ask when so you don't get judged for "stupid" questions
⏱ TIME STAMPS ⏱
00:00 - How to ask good questions at work?
01:07 - the 5 questions you can always ask at work
02:35
Ask for:
- goal
- problem
- solution
- alternatives
- trade-offs

Those questions aren't only useful for work, but also for simply being conscious.
This thread emphasizes on goal and problem.
My other thread about virtual universe is intended to discus questions about solution and alternatives.
My other thread about universal moral standard is intended to discus questions about alternatives and trade-offs.
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Re: Universal Utopia? What's The Universal Terminal Goal?
« Reply #1486 on: 04/07/2024 03:21:17 »
Boomers Own Half of U.S. Wealth. So Why Are We Seeing More Homeless Boomers? | WSJ
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Baby boomers have the highest median net worth by generation, holding about half of U.S. wealth?with much of it tied in real estate. And while many of these older boomers aren?t moving out of their homes, younger boomers reaching retirement are increasingly facing homelessness.

WSJ breaks down this trend and explains its impact on the housing market and the U.S. economy.

Chapters:
0:00 The baby boomer trend
0:32 Boomers aging in place
2:14 Boomers facing homelessness
4:34 Why there are these two extremes

Wall Street has spent billions buying homes. A crackdown is looming: https://on.wsj.com/3WF63ht
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Re: Universal Utopia? What's The Universal Terminal Goal?
« Reply #1487 on: 06/07/2024 13:55:44 »
Is UBI DEAD? This AI CEO Thinks So...
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Here are the six evenly spaced timestamps and their captions:

00:00 - Introduction to Universal Basic Income
02:20 - AI's Impact on Wealth Distribution
04:40 - Sam Altman on Changing Social Contract
07:00 - Universal Basic Income Limitations
09:20 - Google's Universal Basic Income Pilot
11:40 - Future of AI and Economic Models

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Re: Universal Utopia? What's The Universal Terminal Goal?
« Reply #1488 on: 06/07/2024 14:36:49 »
Capitalism worked better than communism, especially in the past, was because of its self organizing nature. It provides democratization of economic system to its participants by enabling voting ability through the use of money to determine where economic resources should be spent and determine the priorities.

But it also has loop holes that can be exploited by some of its participants which leads to inappropriate use of resources and deterioration if the system as a whole. The economic system should give incentives to spend resources to where they are needed the most, hence makes biggest positive impacts.
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Re: Universal Utopia? What's The Universal Terminal Goal?
« Reply #1489 on: 06/07/2024 14:53:24 »
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 03/07/2024 13:40:07
Ask for:
- goal
- problem
- solution
- alternatives
- trade-offs

Those questions aren't only useful for work, but also for simply being conscious.
This thread emphasizes on goal and problem.
The goal that has been identified here is to increase the chance of survival for future conscious entities.
One of the problems that have been identified, is catastrophic events that can wipe out entire group of conscious entities. A natural disaster can wipe out entire building, entire village, entire city, island, even planets. Now human caused disasters can also make similar level of damage.
Being numerous is one of the strategy to overcome the problem. Living in diverse locations can prevent common mode failures by not placing all of the eggs in a single basket.
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Re: Universal Utopia? What's The Universal Terminal Goal?
« Reply #1490 on: 06/07/2024 15:06:31 »
Why should we do anything instead of nothing?
If the result is the same, doing nothing is the most efficient way. But if we consistently do nothing, sooner or later the entropy will take over, and we will stop being conscious.
Being conscious requires a lot of things to get right. Consciousness needs a complex system which is extremely unlikely to appear randomly in a single event.
In other words, to be conscious is to struggle against entropy.
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« Reply #1491 on: 06/07/2024 22:55:22 »
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Max Planck's theory revolutionized our understanding of black body radiation and introduced the concept of energy quantization. He proposed that the energy oscillators within a black body could only emit or absorb energy in discrete packets, called quanta, rather than continuously. This quantization had a significant impact on the emitted radiation at higher frequencies.
According to Planck's theory, high-frequency radiation corresponds to higher energy quanta. As the temperature of the black body increases, there's a lower probability of these high-energy quanta being emitted compared to lower-frequency quanta with lower energy requirements. This results in a decrease in the intensity of high-frequency radiation emitted by the black body at higher temperatures. This explains why a hot object glows red hot before emitting colors with higher frequencies like blue or white as the temperature continues to rise.
Gemini




The situation for decision making process is similar to black body radiation. Our own individual current existence is the most certain thing, which has 100% probability. But it is about to expire as soon as the moment turns into the past, and becomes irrelevant to our goal.
On the other end, the existence of conscious entities in more distant futures are less certain.
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« Reply #1492 on: 06/07/2024 23:22:01 »
As a result, we should pay more attention at medium distant futures. Our efforts should be more targeted at that point in time. We should not spend all of available resources for short term demands. But we should not spare all of available resources for longer term demand beyond what we can reliably predict either. It's possible that in the future, those resources will be no longer needed.

With increasing level of consciousness, our horizon of prediction capabilities are expanding, and the future that we need to consider the most is increasingly more distant. It's analogous with Wien's displacement law which states that the black-body radiation curve for different temperatures will peak at different frequencies that are proportional to the temperature.
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« Reply #1493 on: 08/07/2024 07:56:28 »
Can We Make Houses Affordable... Without Destroying the Economy?
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Affordable housing has become THE defining challenge of this generation not only in America, but across most of the world.

House prices have grown so much faster than wages that young people will struggle for years JUST to save a down payment, all so they can struggle for DECADES to make the RE-payments on their mortgage. At the same time we are told that our home is our biggest asset, and the last time the real estate market saw a significant dip, it took the global economy down with it.

So can we make houses affordable? without destroying the economy?

According to data from the U.S. Census Bureau the homeownership rate in America is sixty five point six percent [65.5%] so the majority of people have a direct financial interest in not seeing their biggest financial asset lose its value.

This is in SPITE of the fact that according to a study by the CATO institute EIGHTY SEVEN percent [87%] of Americans are worried about the cost of housing which means there is a big overlap between people that want affordable housing? as long as it isn?t theirs. This means the only winning course of action for politicians is to performatively make the problem worse.
Administration has announced plans to offer tax credits of up to $10,000 to families selling their home to another owner occupant in addition to another tax credit of up to $5,000 to offset mortgage rates for first home buyers.

These could be used in conjunction with a TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLAR [$25,000] bonus for first generation homebuyers.

BUT if you are a new buyer and you get $40,000 worth of extra tax bonuses and grants, all that will do is make affordable housing? $40,000 more expensive which doesn?t really make you any better off overall. So just making houses cheaper isn?t enough to make houses more affordable UNLESS you look at some radical? and not so radical solutions, that won?t be politically popular? but just might work?

So it?s time to learn How Money Works to find out if you can make the houses affordable? without destroying the economy in the process.
I've been thinking about this for a while, after seeing a lot of empty land near cities, houses and buildings. But lack of confidence to write it down to a publishable material. Fortunately this video came into existence, and explain it clearly.
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Re: Universal Utopia? What's The Universal Terminal Goal?
« Reply #1494 on: 08/07/2024 11:51:23 »
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without destroying the economy
There's the stinking fish in the barrel of human life!

What is "the economy"? It is the quantifable transactions between people.

Who benefits from a "strong economy"? Those who live by the quantity rather than the quality of those transactions.

As long as people want to live in houses, and as long as there is no limit to the number of people, the endpoint is a planet entirely covered with concrete, and occupied by miserable, starving people. But the economy will boom!

Now suppose we prioritise human happiness rather than the wealth of  bankers.....
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« Reply #1495 on: 08/07/2024 14:32:06 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 08/07/2024 11:51:23
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 08/07/2024 07:56:28
without destroying the economy
There's the stinking fish in the barrel of human life!

What is "the economy"? It is the quantifable transactions between people.

Who benefits from a "strong economy"? Those who live by the quantity rather than the quality of those transactions.

As long as people want to live in houses, and as long as there is no limit to the number of people, the endpoint is a planet entirely covered with concrete, and occupied by miserable, starving people. But the economy will boom!

Now suppose we prioritise human happiness rather than the wealth of  bankers.....
Gemini says this about economy.
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The economy can be thought of as the giant system that involves producing, distributing (getting things around), and consuming all the goods and services in a particular area, like a city, country, or even the entire world. Here's a breakdown of how it works:

Scarce resources: There are limited amounts of land, labor, and raw materials to work with. Economies tackle the challenge of allocating these resources efficiently.
Production: This is where goods and services are created. Factories that make cars, farms that grow food, and hairdressers cutting hair are all part of production.
Distribution: Once goods are produced, they need to get to the people who want them. This involves transportation, wholesale (selling large quantities to stores), and retail (selling to individual customers).
Consumption: This is the act of using the goods and services that are produced. People buy food, clothes, and entertainment, and businesses buy equipment and office supplies.
The big questions economies try to answer:

What to produce? Should we make more cars or more bicycles? More doctors or more software engineers?
How to produce it? Should we use a lot of labor or a lot of machines? Should we prioritize efficiency or environmental sustainability?
Who gets what? How are incomes distributed among the population?
Different types of economies:

Market economy: Decisions about what, how, and for whom to produce are made by individual buyers and sellers in a marketplace. Prices are determined by supply and demand. (This is the most common type of economy around the world today.)
Command economy: The government makes most of the key decisions about production and distribution.
Summarizing the monetary transactions is a way to quantify the economic size of a system, which can be a key performance indicator or instrumental goal. But when an instrumental goal is treated like the terminal goal itself, then it stops being a good instrumental goal. There will be exceptional cases where that instrumental goal isn't aligned with the terminal goal.
Chasing happiness and avoiding misery are also instrumental goals. Otherwise drugs will be the effective and efficient answer.
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« Reply #1496 on: 10/07/2024 05:38:47 »
How the US Is Destroying Young People?s Future | Scott Galloway | TED
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In a scorching talk, marketing professor and podcaster Scott Galloway dissects the data showing that, by many measures, young people in the US are worse off financially than ever before. He unpacks the root causes and effects of this "great intergenerational theft," asking why we let it continue and showing how we could make it end. (Note: This talk contains mature language.)
Let me remind us that the universal terminal goal is to increase the chance of survival for future conscious entities.
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« Reply #1497 on: 12/07/2024 04:01:42 »
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The word Goal means preferred state or condition in the future. If it's not preferred, it can't be a goal. If it's already happened in the past, it can't be a goal either. Although it's possible that the goal is to make future condition similar to preferred condition in the past as reference. The preference requires the existence of at least one conscious entity. Preference can't exist in a universe without consciousness, so can't a goal.
add: The definition of goal can be made more compact to become "pursued condition". Because the word "pursue" already implies preference and future condition.
The next question follows naturally, how to define pursuing?
A condition is said to be pursued if actions and inaction are deliberately made in the expectations of making it more likely to become fulfilled in reality. It means that pursuant can be done through either action or inaction. The determining factor is the intention of making that action or inaction, and the expectation that the result can be affected by the different options taken.
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« Reply #1498 on: 12/07/2024 10:21:12 »
Why Nvidia, Tesla, Amazon And More Are Betting Big On AI-Powered Humanoid Robots
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Humanoid robots are catching the attention, and billions of investment dollars, from big tech companies like Amazon, Google, Nvidia and Microsoft. Elon Musk is betting the future of Tesla on these machines, predicting its robot, Optimus, could propel it to a $25 trillion market cap. Powered by artificial intelligence, these bots have seen quantum leaps in what they?re capable of in just the past few years. CNBC?s Kate Rooney speaks with Agility Robotics, Apptronik, Sanctuary AI and others to explore the rise of these AI-driven humanoids, if they?re a cure-all for our global workforce problems, or if this is yet another tech bubble.

Chapters:
2:49 Ch 1 AI has changed the game
5:52 Ch 2 Getting to work
9:40 Ch 3 The labor shortage
11:50 Ch 4 Hurdles ahead
14:01 Ch 5 China?s robot dominance
Economic policies need to adjust to fit with this latest progress in technology.
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« Reply #1499 on: 13/07/2024 06:47:59 »
The PHYSICS of CONSCIOUSNESS - Richard Dawkins & Brian Greene

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How can water be wet when individual water molecules are not wet? What am I missing? Chalmer's hard problem seems to depend on a composition fallacy. Moreover, trying to achieve an understanding of consciousness starting with physics seems obtuse. I think we will be able to do that after we understand consciousness at a high level. Then we can work backward to the physics.
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