[exothermic]

As I said before terrorism is the LEAST cause of death yet gets the MOST media coverage.

Umm.... that would be due to the fact that world-wide terrorism isn't a natural cause of death.

Heart disease and Cancers are the BIGGEST causes of deaths yet get the LEAST media coverage.

So you are now proposing the notion that the news media should just skip over the terrorist-inflicted mass murders of innocent people.... and focus their attention on death rates from heart disease and cancer.

Oh my.

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[Colin2B]

You seem to be excusing the fraud of Big Pharma by drawing attention to other industries.

Do you work for them? Are you a 'consultant' for them? Do you get rewards and kickbacks for your 'loyalty'.

This appears to be a common response from you when you have nothing of substance to add.
Nothing I said excuses anything.

Yet this isn't about big pharma making drugs... it's about them creating absolute frauds and calling them drugs,

No, its about you either not understanding what was written in the report or deliberately misinterpreting it.

A report today confirms that most cancer drugs are actually Snake Oil and are quack treatments and don't do anything at all, apart  from making the patient suffer from the hideous side effects and apart from making vast amount of money for the companies that make them.

That is not what the report actually says. Even your own quote proves that:

"Among 68 cancer drug indications approved by the EMA in the period 2009-13, and with a median of 5.4 years’ follow-up, only 35 (51%) were associated with significant improvement in survival or quality of life over alternative treatment options, placebo, or as add on treatment. For 33 (49%), uncertainty remains over whether the drugs extend survival or improve quality of life. Of the 23 drugs with a survival benefit that could be scored with the validated ESMO-MCBS tool, only 11 (48%) were judged to offer a clinically meaningful benefit."

The fact that 51% of new approvals were associated with significant improvement does not mean most cancer drugs are snake oil.
This says nothing about the effectiveness of existing treatments.
To understand why the remaining 49% were approved you would need to look at the original approvals. For example, in the uk NICE will approve treatments which offer no survival advantage over existing treatments if they reduce side effects for a group of patients.

Overall the report is useful and should prompt some serious and intelligent discussion. However, branding cancer treatments as snake oil or quack medicines does nothing to further adult discussion and is not supported by the article, as you claim it is.

[profound (OP)]

If these medications actually worked you would not get the below:-
In males, there were around 86,500 cancer deaths in the UK in 2014. In females, there were around 76,900 cancer deaths in the UK in 2014. Every four minutes someone in the UK dies from cancer.

So you're determining the effectiveness of cancer drugs from cancer death rates? Oh boy.

*News Flash*

When people die from cancer.... it doesn't mean the drugs they were taking, failed to elicit improvement.

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Well their dead ,Jim

Improved but still dead.

[profound (OP)]

As I said before terrorism is the LEAST cause of death yet gets the MOST media coverage.

Umm.... that would be due to the fact that world-wide terrorism isn't a natural cause of death.

Are car accidents natural?

Are the 100 annual crime deaths in London natural?

Is slipping on a banana peel and dying natural?

Are prescription drug side effects deaths natural?

Well?

Heart disease and Cancers are the BIGGEST causes of deaths yet get the LEAST media coverage.

So you are now proposing the notion that the news media should just skip over the terrorist-inflicted mass murders of innocent people.... and focus their attention on death rates from heart disease and cancer.

Oh my.

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I never said skip it.Just give it 1 or 2 minutes.Extended coverage incites more terrorism and generates more terrorist attacks,hence killing more people as a research study showed.

Yes.

Yes they should report it just like any other News.Not devote 20 minutes from a 30 minute news bulletin going on and on and on about it by the media with their fake concern while making money out of it.

All that footage gets traded around and used to generate money.

How many of the victims came back to life because of EXTENDED media coverage?

Could you name them?

[exothermic]

Well their dead ,Jim

Improved but still dead.

Yeah, well if you're searching for a drug that prevents death.... let us know when you find it.

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[Bored chemist]

If these medications actually worked you would not get the below:-
In males, there were around 86,500 cancer deaths in the UK in 2014. In females, there were around 76,900 cancer deaths in the UK in 2014. Every four minutes someone in the UK dies from cancer.

So you're determining the effectiveness of cancer drugs from cancer death rates? Oh boy.

*News Flash*

When people die from cancer.... it doesn't mean the drugs they were taking, failed to elicit improvement.

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Well their dead ,Jim

Improved but still dead.

In the long run, we are all dead.
The point of medicine is, broadly, to postpone death.

[smart]

The point of medicine is, broadly, to postpone death.

That is because medicine is driven by globalization. In a perfect world, medicine would be free and would effectively cure actual physiological diseases. Globalization may even promote cancer. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1299207/

[Bored chemist]

The point of medicine is, broadly, to postpone death.

That is because medicine is driven by globalization. In a perfect world, medicine would be free and would effectively cure actual physiological diseases. Globalization may even promote cancer. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1299207/

No
Before globalization, the point of medicine was, broadly, to postpone death.
It still is.
Globalization has not changed that.
We don't live in a perfect world; we do not know how to cure all diseases (please don't start some conspiracy sh1t about that).

[Colin2B]

Globalization may even promote cancer. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1299207/

The problem with this way of thinking is that you can lay many of the worlds ills against many factors without identifying the root cause and hence tackling the problem. Eg, in the paper you quote, the root cause is substance abuse - tobacco and alcohol. You could by the same logic blame globalisation for the Irish potato famine rather than reliance on monoculture.
Similarly you might single out exploration, eg discovery of the americas, rather than globalisation as promoting cancer.

[Bored chemist]

It's interesting to look at this question from the other end- as it were.
Why are so many "snake-oil" remedies sold as cancer cures?

I don't get spam emails telling me how to cure a broken leg or a bacterial infection.
They concentrate their attempts to extract money from one of two groups, the "worried well" and those who are desperate.
Cancer can tick both boxes.
They will sell you snake oil that prevents cancer and another that "cures" it if you get it.
Neither works.

[profound (OP)]

Globalization may even promote cancer. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1299207/

The problem with this way of thinking is that you can lay many of the worlds ills against many factors without identifying the root cause and hence tackling the problem. Eg, in the paper you quote, the root cause is substance abuse - tobacco and alcohol. You could by the same logic blame globalisation for the Irish potato famine rather than reliance on monoculture.
Similarly you might single out exploration, eg discovery of the americas, rather than globalisation as promoting cancer.

Federal authorities arrested the billionaire founder and owner of Insys Therapeutics Thursday on charges of bribing doctors and pain clinics into prescribing the company’s fentanyl product to their patients,” reports the Daily Caller News Foundation, one of the best sources of real journalism in America today.

Addictive drugs that include opioids, we now know, are claiming over 64,000 lives a year in the United States alone.

From the DCNF:

The Department of Justice (DOJ) charged John Kapoor, 74, and seven other current and former executives at the pharmaceutical company with racketeering for a leading a national conspiracy through bribery and fraud to coerce the illegal distribution of the company’s fentanyl spray, which is intended for use as a pain killer by cancer patients. The company’s stock prices fell more than 20 percent following the arrests, according to the New York Post.

More than 20,000 Americans died of synthetic opioid overdoses last year, and millions are addicted to opioids. And yet some medical professionals would rather take advantage of the addicts than try to help them...

NEVER TRUST A DOCTOR.THEY ARE ON THE TAKE.