[guest39538]

I have to go now, nice speaking to you . Will be back later if there is any questions.

[Dave Lev (OP)]

r= F1 gravity force
v=F2  electromotive force

What is the source for that electromotive force?

[guest39538]

What is the source for that electromotive force?

It is not the source that is the importance, the source of energy exists of the field and body.  The importance is spin, how spin is created .  I am struggling to compute how a single point particle could begin to spin from no force, I assume spin origin is collision based so I am looking at that route.
I am trying to consider how electricity traverses through a wire and the external field rotates around the wire.  I may have to get a cd out and put a pencil through the middle to examine it for ideas. 

How does a forward force traversing through the pencil cause the ''cd'' to spin on the ''pencil''?

The mechanics are certainty ingenuity in the intelligent design department of this mechanism.  I can see it almost, but not quite , I will sleep on it or find inspiration somewhere to work it out. Something to do with these negative energy ''disks'' that seem double sided ''disks'' .

P.s Did Faraday use Ac or Dc ?  Doesn't Ac go forward and backwards?

added- The eye of the storm is the disk, the storm is outside the disk making it spin. (thinking aloud )

added- This is tough, to answer the question I would have to answer the perpetual motion question.  The problem is there is two different answers, an answer for finite universe and design and one for an infinite universe without design. The second question being the importance to answer.

added - I have got the thinking down to two ''drill bits'', linear twist which I mentioned a while ago.  The ''drill bits'' both drilling each other to create a rotating negative energy ''disk''. 

The problem is what drives the ''drill bits''?   

So ok, after thinking for a while, I can see Dirac's thoughts, but it is really a river, some sort of flow.  Maybe directed to the vacuum outlet  if there was one.  (thinking aloud).

I will try to think more to answer you, perhaps somebody could give an answer.

added- A normal electric wire is muti stranded  wire that is bound by being spiralled, it is not the electricity spiralling , it is a spiralled path that spirals space. , Yes I got it now I think , 

The wires are crossed , I will do an experiment tomorrow .

added- Well I have just been ''uploaded'' with quantum entanglement, I understand that now too.

[Dave Lev (OP)]

It is not the source that is the importance, the source of energy exists of the field and body.  The importance is spin, how spin is created .  I am struggling to compute how a single point particle could begin to spin from no force, I assume spin origin is collision based so I am looking at that route.

Thanks

What do you mean by:
"It is not the source that is the importance, the source of energy exists of the field and body."?
How could it be that in one hand you claim that the source for the electromotive force isn't important, while in the other hand you claim that "the source of energy exists of the field and body"?
So, don't you agree that there must be a Source? Internal or External?
I couldn't understand your explanation about:
"How does a forward force traversing through the pencil cause the ''cd'' to spin on the ''pencil''?
"Did Faraday use Ac or Dc ?  Doesn't Ac go forward and backwards?"
However, let me focus on your key message -  "the source of energy exists of the field and body".
The Sun mass is 1.989 × 10^30 kg. How unclear energy as AC or DC Faraday could have any effect on the Sun motion? How could it spin that sort of mass? (Just think about the requested force to hold that mass)

Don't you think that:
- A Star isn't a "pencil", Atom or even a free Electron?
- Any Star, planet or moon must obey to the gravity force?
- If a star spins around a virtual point, than the only explanation for that must come from Gravity force?
- Nothing in the Universe can move a star without gravity force?

Therefore, don't you think that the real meaning of: "the source of energy exists of the field and body", MUST be gravity force (and ONLY gravity force)?

I still don't understand why we don't except the simple outcome:
If star spins around a virtual point which moves forward (and set that virtual wire). Why can't we assume that this virtual point is the center of mass of that star? (Please look again on the Charon Moon motion around the Sun).
Why we have so high objection to that clear and simple understanding?
Why do we try to look for other unrealistic hypothetical ideas as a Tennis ball or AC/DC Faraday while the real answer is already in our hand???

[guest39538]

Why do we try to look for other unrealistic hypothetical ideas as a Tennis ball or AC/DC Faraday while the real answer is already in our hand???

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The centrifugal is equal to the centripetal pressure, that is why .  ZpP (zero point pressure)

[Dave Lev (OP)]

The centrifugal is equal to the centripetal pressure, that is why .  ZpP (zero point pressure)

As you can see those centrifugal and ripple are random.
Do you consider the spin motion of the Sun as random activity?
Don't you think that gravity could be a valid solution for this solid spin motion?

[guest39538]

The centrifugal is equal to the centripetal pressure, that is why .  ZpP (zero point pressure)

As you can see those centrifugal and ripple are random.

The centrifugal ripples may appear to be random, ostensible.  The centripetal is constant therefore random can only be a consequence of a change in constant.  Quite measurable in some way I should think .

Δ k  = var (k)

?

[Dave Lev (OP)]

Would you kindly try to find even one moon or planet which is moving according to that centrifugal ripple?

How can you believe in centrifugal ripple in order to set the Sun spin motion?
Why each time you try to offer different idea to that motion?

Why do you have so high resistance to gravity force???
What is so wrong with Newton Law?

[guest39538]

Why do you have so high resistance to gravity force???
What is so wrong with Newton Law?

My N-field theory and n-field requires Newtonian gravity and Einsteins gravity to work.  I am sure even if I tried to explain to you, how the rotational qualities come about , you may still not understand it . 
It is not easy to explain things that are invisible you know.  However at the ''edge'' of all ''eddy's'' there is a ''plane'' (eddy line) , so the ''wheel'' can ''role'' down the ''plane'' .  However the intricate detail is, the plane is the ''edge''  of a different ''eddy'', the centripetal force being applied between the two individual ''planes'' causing each circular ''plane'' to rotate. 
It is complex , view eddy lines on google search.

[Dave Lev (OP)]

Thanks

Now it is clear.

[guest39538]

Thanks

Now it is clear.

Your welcome , this is a pretty good link.

Since kayaker’s enter eddies with velocity in one direction and that quickly changes to velocity in the opposite direction, it is easy to flip upon entering an eddy.

https://www.thoughtco.com/guide-to-eddies-eddy-lines-and-whirlpools-2556014

 

[Bored chemist]

My N-field theory

It's not a theory.

[guest39538]

My N-field theory

It's not a theory.

True, it is a fact,  that keeps the solar winds from hitting you .  It is a  shame my theory does  work

[Bored chemist]

My N-field theory

It's not a theory.

True, it is a fact,  that keeps the solar winds from hitting you .  It is a  shame my theory does  work

facts have to be true.

[guest39538]

My N-field theory

It's not a theory.

True, it is a fact,  that keeps the solar winds from hitting you .  It is a  shame my theory does  work

facts have to be true.

You think it is not true that the Earth's field protects the Earth from solar winds and harmful radiation?

[Dave Lev (OP)]

I assume that by now it is clear that the only valid force which can spin the sun around a center of mass, while this center orbits around the galaxy is - Gravity Force.
Later on I will introduce how this local gravity force is the main power which had set the structure of spiral galaxy.

[guest39538]

I assume that by now it is clear that the only valid force which can spin the sun around a center of mass, while this center orbits around the galaxy is - Gravity Force.
Later on I will introduce how this local gravity force is the main power which had set the structure of spiral galaxy.

A single point particle in a void , it has no mechanism or acting forces on it to gain any sort of motion. Only if there is an external force applied to the point particle can motion and angular momentum be established.
All motion is the consequence of this rudiment action, which  is a result of simultaneous gravity between the two dependent point particles (A) and (B) occupying the same point .   Something I have already established and accounted for in my theory .



+

/ t

+

/ t


Quite clearly    which is 0.5 + 0.5 = 1  has no mechanism for motion unless additionally adding it in the form of gravitational force  to create spin or other .

(A + B)  + A  = 1.5 

therefore kE=0.5

Another way

  = p0 where p is momentum


+ = p1

[Bored chemist]

It is always a mistake to assume no replies means agreement or no resistance to an idea. There are many reasons why folks don’t reply.

In the case of this thread the main reason is that there's so much nonsense, it's impossible to know where to start.

[Bored chemist]

You think it is not true that the Earth's field protects the Earth from solar winds and harmful radiation?

The Earth's atmosphere and the magnetic field do that.
So there's no need for your made up N field.

[guest39538]

You think it is not true that the Earth's field protects the Earth from solar winds and harmful radiation?

The Earth's atmosphere and the magnetic field do that.
So there's no need for your made up N field.

But that magnetic field is Neutral in charge is it not ?  A N-field?