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It also means that you are unable to understand the errors made by Cahill, Miller etc.
Ok. According to your calculations, or others, or even using physics, where does the aether wind "blow from"? Does something have to be present, and if so, what, as a source?
My attitude is to leave no stone unturned when it comes to dedicated interest in our physical reality.In Medicine, people have all sorts of ways of explaining what's wrong with them, and then its up to the doctors to apply their science to fix that problem without teaching the patient how to do that for themselves as a short-term medical intervention. Long term, yes, short term, no...that's why people seek medical help, put their issue of health in the Doctor's hands.In science, are we there yet? We live in a great luxury of proposing the most amazing things. I can't deny that fact.
Quote from: Colin2B on 12/11/2018 08:34:02It also means that you are unable to understand the errors made by Cahill, Miller etc.There were-are no errors with aether theory. ...... The only arguments against aether theory were by Roberts & by Shankland, & even i can see throo Roberts' & Shankland's errors & lies.
I ask because for someone to say my work mirrors aether theory, I really need to know how that works, through the aether lens of consideration.
If a wave is considered to emanate in a 360* pattern expanding outward, then it both compresses and bends. Both the bend and compression occur along the wave's inner rim. A bending and expansion occurs along the wave's outer rim. This compression works much like the masonry in the arc of the aquaduct. If the force applied to the inner wave remains constant at all points, the inner wave structure remains intact by applying equal pressure to all sides of the expanding wave. As the outward force applied to the waves inner rim diminishes the wave decelerates. If the outward force ceases the waves innermost rim will fail structural. Remanents of the wave that survive due to momentum force will further diminish upon impact with any substantial force greater than itself. lolWill the gravity wave produce its own gravity? and will that produced gravity be along the wave's inner rim or the wave's outer rim? If the wave produces gravity along it's inner rim, mass will accumulate creating drag that will deteriorate the wave. If the wave produces gravity along it's outer rim, mass will accumulate weight and resistance that the outward force coudn't compensate for also deteriorating the wave. If mass accumulates on both the inner and outer aspects, the wave expansion is negated totally, making chances of detection light years away minimal. The best chance for a gravity wave's detection 100's of light years away, is if the "gravity wave's force" maintains its initial integrity, meaning its 360* structure remained intact. This is the only way it could even make a fringeshift 1/1000 the size of a proton as claimed. It's not the integrity of the laser interferometer to measure to such detail I question, I find the probabilty of finding four gravity waves in two years as suspect. The discounting or exclusion of other possibilities should not ignored. If the ratios of found gravity waves during the next two years doesnot remain constant, it would be perfectly proper seek other answers. It's a deep hole LIGO has dug. lol
Quote from: mad aetherist on 12/11/2018 08:45:04Quote from: Colin2B on 12/11/2018 08:34:02It also means that you are unable to understand the errors made by Cahill, Miller etc.There were-are no errors with aether theory. ...... The only arguments against aether theory were by Roberts & by Shankland, & even i can see throo Roberts' & Shankland's errors & lies.No, there are more, but those are only ones usually quoted because they published first so the others don’t then get published. However, I don’t see how you can “see throo Roberts' & Shankland's errors & lies” when you don’t understand basic physics.The problem of random and systematic errors was not understood in Miller’s day, neither was the very real (and easily understandable) problem of averaging data which leads to all sorts of errors. Modern experiments by experienced labs don’t make the same mistake and will show error bars, anyone who doesn’t follow best practices will have their work ignored as unreliable.
Quote from: opportunity on 12/11/2018 08:52:48I ask because for someone to say my work mirrors aether theory, I really need to know how that works, through the aether lens of consideration.Did they say why they thought that? Was there a particular result of calculations or experiment that pointed them to that conclusion ?
No Roberts & Shankland are the only two hit-jobs.
"others" are i suppose the vacuum MMXs -- ...........................how he studied the effects of temperature & how temperature was not an issue (Miller died some years before Shanklands 1955 hit-job).
I've found though that mentioning the idea of the golden ratio and time puts aether into people's thoughts, that my work is another new age meets old alchemy script of everything, which it certainly isn't.
Quote from: mad aetherist on 12/11/2018 23:05:36"others" are i suppose the vacuum MMXs -- ........ how he studied the effects of temperature & how temperature was not an issue (Miller died some years before Shanklands 1955 hit-job).I still don’t see how you can understand what is written by either side and draw any balanced conclusion given your extremely limited knowledge of basic physics and your ability to misinterpret articles. Discussion on aether can be quite interesting, but it has to be informed rather than the religious way you are taking it which blocks any interesting discussion. Anyway, you are allowed to have any (polite) views you wish, but are likely to die frustrated
"others" are i suppose the vacuum MMXs -- ........ how he studied the effects of temperature & how temperature was not an issue (Miller died some years before Shanklands 1955 hit-job).
Waves implies a natural harmonic property (no they [gravitational waves] aint waves). Ripples implies a natural harmonic property (no they aint ripples). So i say waves but i am talking about gravity pulses.
Waves is of course a misnomer -- they are gravity pulses (forced)