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Is the sun made of antimatter?

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Re: Is the sun made of antimatter?
« Reply #40 on: 13/03/2020 12:46:58 »
Quote from: acsinuk on 13/03/2020 07:53:56
In order to electrically balance the amount of positive charged matter in the universe there must be an equal amount of negative charged matter  At the moment physicists have a 1386 dis-balance in mass weight of the two charges and they need to explain  this disparity before claiming the standard model is correct,

In our universe, negative charge is connected to the lower mass election and positive charge is connected to the large mass proton.

 Since the electromagnetic force or EM force is a unified force composed of electrostatic and magnetic components, the larger mass of the proton causes universal positive charge to move net slower than the lighter election. This reduces the magnetic contribution of the EM force output of universal positive charge, The net affect is that universal negative change has higher EM force potential.

Since the EM force is a unified force, the higher EM force total of negative charge, may also reflect  possible tweaks in negative charge potential, since unified means interchangeable.

The impact of mass has an impact on charge via the unified EM force. The net affect is positive and negative charge may not be the same and their choice of mass may halo each balance out better. The obvious connection is mass and magnetism since mass impacts a charge in motion,
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Re: Is the sun made of antimatter?
« Reply #41 on: 13/03/2020 16:21:24 »
Quote from: acsinuk on 13/03/2020 07:53:56
In order to electrically balance the amount of positive charged matter in the universe there must be an equal amount of negative charged matter  At the moment physicists have a 1386 dis-balance in mass weight of the two charges and they need to explain  this disparity before claiming the standard model is correct,

Mass and charge are different things. The magnitude of electric charge on the electron is equal to the magnitude of electric charge on the proton. So a hydrogen atom (the most common atom in the Universe) is already "electrically balanced".
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Re: Is the sun made of antimatter?
« Reply #42 on: 13/03/2020 16:23:09 »
Quote from: acsinuk on 13/03/2020 07:53:56
At the moment physicists have a 1386 dis-balance
What did you think that meant?
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Re: Is the sun made of antimatter?
« Reply #43 on: 14/03/2020 08:22:50 »
The inside of atoms and molecules are occupied by electrical charges held apart by the magnoflux spin effect. There is nothing else there.. "Mass and charge are different things"  but related as the atomic weight and atomic charge number increase together
If we touch and feel matter we are in fact touching the outside of balanced electric charges.  But we are not getting a shock because we are touching the electron shell and all matter is negatively charged including the feel of the inside neutrons.
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Re: Is the sun made of antimatter?
« Reply #44 on: 14/03/2020 12:53:14 »
Quote from: acsinuk on 14/03/2020 08:22:50
magnoflux spin effect.
No more so than they are held apart by  unicorns or the power of prayer.
Quote from: acsinuk on 09/03/2020 03:17:08
The touchable outside enclosure shells
More made up phrases without  defined meanings or a basis in evidence don't help.



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Quote from: acsinuk on 14/03/2020 08:22:50
. "Mass and charge are different things"  but related as the atomic weight and atomic charge number increase together
Except when they don't.
In the real world of science, it's occasionally a problem.
https://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/2001/ja/b103707m/unauth#!divAbstract
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Re: Is the sun made of antimatter?
« Reply #45 on: 14/03/2020 13:50:38 »
Quote from: acsinuk on 14/03/2020 08:22:50
"Mass and charge are different things"  but related as the atomic weight and atomic charge number increase together

Ever heard of isotopes?

Quote from: acsinuk on 14/03/2020 08:22:50
and all matter is negatively charged

Not at all.

Quote from: acsinuk on 14/03/2020 08:22:50
including the feel of the inside neutrons.

Neutrons are neutral. I've clarified this before.
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Re: Is the sun made of antimatter?
« Reply #46 on: 15/03/2020 06:48:24 »
Neutrons are neutral to what?   What are they neutral to?  Surely not to the earth ground potential which I have already explain to you is made of negative electron shell enclosures.  Please clarify what your reference point is!
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Re: Is the sun made of antimatter?
« Reply #47 on: 15/03/2020 10:05:39 »
Quote from: acsinuk on 15/03/2020 06:48:24
What are they neutral to?
That makes as little sense as asking "tomatoes are red to what?"
 Neutrons are neutral.
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have already explain to you is made of negative electron shell enclosures. 
You may have said that, you may even have said it repeatedly.
You have not even shown that it is meaningful, never mind show that it is true.

Is the sun made of antimatter?
Which part of "no" don't you understand?
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Re: Is the sun made of antimatter?
« Reply #48 on: 15/03/2020 14:07:31 »
Quote from: acsinuk on 15/03/2020 06:48:24
Neutrons are neutral to what?

The electromagnetic force.

Quote from: acsinuk on 15/03/2020 06:48:24
Surely not to the earth ground potential which I have already explain to you is made of negative electron shell enclosures.

They are neutral to all electric charges. That's what it means to be electrically-neutral.
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Re: Is the sun made of antimatter?
« Reply #49 on: 26/03/2020 07:44:50 »
There is no such thing as a stable atom that is not made of balancing electric charges.  Isotopes can break the mass to charge symmetry but the charges will always balance
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Re: Is the sun made of antimatter?
« Reply #50 on: 26/03/2020 13:11:03 »
Quote from: acsinuk on 26/03/2020 07:44:50
There is no such thing as a stable atom that is not made of balancing electric charges.  Isotopes can break the mass to charge symmetry but the charges will always balance
Nobody said otherwise, except there is no "mass to charge symmetry"; that's just something you made up.
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