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7.7 billion people and counting: what can we do about human over-population?

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Re: 7.7 billion people and counting: what can we do about human over-population?
« Reply #120 on: 09/08/2021 06:18:18 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 08/08/2021 10:49:46
Ask any dog whether he would collapse or rejoice if his fleas died.
What makes dogs more important than fleas?
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Re: 7.7 billion people and counting: what can we do about human over-population?
« Reply #121 on: 09/08/2021 10:06:10 »
(a) ask the dog
(b) ask the dog's owner
(c) compare the probable life of a dog in the absence of fleas, with the probable life of a flea in the absence of dogs.

(c) is a fine example of utility function analysis!
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Re: 7.7 billion people and counting: what can we do about human over-population?
« Reply #122 on: 09/08/2021 10:44:23 »
Quote from: acsinuk on 29/03/2021 10:12:59
1.  Reduce childbirth by contraceptive pills and educating young girls to feel free, safe and secure if un-married.
2. Reduce elderly population by encouraging euthanasia for those who cannot look after themselves at home
3. Allow God to choose who lives or dies when He sends a pandemic to protect us from overpopulation.
4.  Have a world war noting that Chris sees this as negative as it causes a baby boom due to insecurity.
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A good start would be to empty prisons rope is far cheaper than the running cost of a prison so we get two birds with one stone. 
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Re: 7.7 billion people and counting: what can we do about human over-population?
« Reply #123 on: 09/08/2021 10:51:36 »
Quote from: Just thinking on 09/08/2021 10:44:23
A good start would be to empty prisons rope is far cheaper than the running cost of a prison so we get two birds with one stone. 


In fact the death penalty is not cheap.
https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/costs


I understand that, in the USA a prison runs at a substantial profit.
Since this situation came into being, the US prison population has increased significantly.

Perhaps the rope should be reserved for those who brought this idea into practice.
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Re: 7.7 billion people and counting: what can we do about human over-population?
« Reply #124 on: 09/08/2021 11:12:41 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 09/08/2021 10:51:36
Perhaps the rope should be reserved for those who brought this idea into practice.
I agree they are probably imprisoning people just to get cheap labour. I would still use the rope on the worst of them.
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Re: 7.7 billion people and counting: what can we do about human over-population?
« Reply #125 on: 09/08/2021 11:20:39 »
Good idea. Let's begin with the politicians who insisted on transferring infectious COVID patients to unprotected nursing homes. 

But it won't solve the problem of overpopulation - one politician doesn't eat much but can do a huge amount of damage to everyone else.
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Re: 7.7 billion people and counting: what can we do about human over-population?
« Reply #126 on: 09/08/2021 11:20:57 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 09/08/2021 10:06:10
(a) ask the dog
(b) ask the dog's owner
(c) compare the probable life of a dog in the absence of fleas, with the probable life of a flea in the absence of dogs.

(c) is a fine example of utility function analysis!
Why don't you ask the fleas?
Fleas have been around since Jurassic era.
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Re: 7.7 billion people and counting: what can we do about human over-population?
« Reply #127 on: 09/08/2021 11:33:53 »
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 09/08/2021 11:20:57
Quote from: alancalverd on Today at 19:06:10

    (a) ask the dog
    (b) ask the dog's owner
    (c) compare the probable life of a dog in the absence of fleas, with the probable life of a flea in the absence of dogs.

    (c) is a fine example of utility function analysis!

Why don't you ask the fleas?
Fleas have been around since Jurassic era.
I have been praying for a couple of asteroids to impact the earth just in the right spots.
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Re: 7.7 billion people and counting: what can we do about human over-population?
« Reply #128 on: 09/08/2021 11:35:21 »
Life is competitive. I choose the dog.

Legs have been around since our ancestors left the sea, but most people take the bus. Life evolves.
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Re: 7.7 billion people and counting: what can we do about human over-population?
« Reply #129 on: 09/08/2021 11:39:02 »
Quote from: Just thinking on 09/08/2021 11:33:53
I have been praying for a couple of asteroids to impact the earth just in the right spots.

A priest and a thief were playing golf.
A bolt of lightning fried the thief to a crisp.
The Voice Of God said "Bugger, missed again."
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Re: 7.7 billion people and counting: what can we do about human over-population?
« Reply #130 on: 09/08/2021 11:46:29 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 09/08/2021 11:35:21
Life is competitive. I choose the dog.

Legs have been around since our ancestors left the sea, but most people take the bus. Life evolves.
Fleas are parasites. That's a good idea get rid of anything that is a parasite but go easy on the aged disability and the unemployed and start supporting them equally.
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Re: 7.7 billion people and counting: what can we do about human over-population?
« Reply #131 on: 09/08/2021 11:49:08 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 09/08/2021 11:39:02
A priest and a thief were playing golf.
A bolt of lightning fried the thief to a crisp.
The Voice Of God said "Bugger, missed again."
It should have been a double bolt.
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Re: 7.7 billion people and counting: what can we do about human over-population?
« Reply #132 on: 09/08/2021 12:49:15 »
Theft contributes to economic activity, and feeds the thief's family. Religion just debases humanity.
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Re: 7.7 billion people and counting: what can we do about human over-population?
« Reply #133 on: 09/08/2021 21:49:34 »
Carl might have gazed at the Stars.

We are pretty small.

There is ample space around.

We could Adapt.

We can't End here n like this.

We can do it...with or without GOD.
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Re: 7.7 billion people and counting: what can we do about human over-population?
« Reply #134 on: 10/08/2021 03:11:09 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 09/08/2021 11:35:21
Life is competitive. I choose the dog.

Is there any particular reason that someone else can agree or disagree on?

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Legs have been around since our ancestors left the sea, but most people take the bus. Life evolves.
It's because of efficiency. People want to spend less time and energy to move from one point to another.
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Re: 7.7 billion people and counting: what can we do about human over-population?
« Reply #135 on: 10/08/2021 03:12:20 »
Quote from: Just thinking on 09/08/2021 11:33:53
I have been praying for a couple of asteroids to impact the earth just in the right spots.
Which gods have you been praying to?
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Re: 7.7 billion people and counting: what can we do about human over-population?
« Reply #136 on: 10/08/2021 03:22:16 »
Quote from: Just thinking on 09/08/2021 11:46:29
Fleas are parasites. That's a good idea get rid of anything that is a parasite but go easy on the aged disability and the unemployed and start supporting them equally.
What's the reason for condemning some forms of parasitism but supporting the others?

The entomologist E. O. Wilson has characterised parasites as "predators that eat prey in units of less than one".
Which one is worse? dog parasite or dog predator?
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Re: 7.7 billion people and counting: what can we do about human over-population?
« Reply #137 on: 10/08/2021 04:42:36 »
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 10/08/2021 03:12:20
Which gods have you been praying to?
The same one that allowed the earth to be flooded 4000 years ago.
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Re: 7.7 billion people and counting: what can we do about human over-population?
« Reply #138 on: 10/08/2021 04:54:26 »
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 10/08/2021 03:22:16
What's the reason for condemning some forms of parasitism but supporting the others?

The entomologist E. O. Wilson has characterised parasites as "predators that eat prey in units of less than one".
Which one is worse? dog parasite or dog predator?
I think the true definition for a parasite is one that attaches its self to the host to sustain its needs. The aged the disabled and the unemployed merely receive a gift from the hearts of all their loving brothers and sisters. A dog only thinks it is his a man knows it is his.
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Re: 7.7 billion people and counting: what can we do about human over-population?
« Reply #139 on: 10/08/2021 05:25:24 »
Quote from: Just thinking on 10/08/2021 04:54:26
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 10/08/2021 03:22:16
What's the reason for condemning some forms of parasitism but supporting the others?

The entomologist E. O. Wilson has characterised parasites as "predators that eat prey in units of less than one".
Which one is worse? dog parasite or dog predator?
I think the true definition for a parasite is one that attaches its self to the host to sustain its needs. The aged the disabled and the unemployed merely receive a gift from the hearts of all their loving brothers and sisters. A dog only thinks it is his a man knows it is his.

What makes you think that your definition is truer than the others? Do you think that cuckoos are parasites?
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