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Does the DIY quantum eraser experiment work the same with circular polarizers?

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Re: Does the DIY quantum eraser experiment work the same with circular polarizers?
« Reply #20 on: 15/01/2024 09:27:19 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 14/01/2024 15:11:55
Except that it doesn't make sense.
Do you think it's Bard's fault, modern physicists' fault, or science media's fault instead?
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Re: Does the DIY quantum eraser experiment work the same with circular polarizers?
« Reply #21 on: 16/01/2024 11:44:23 »
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 13/01/2024 05:36:26
A detector is placed near one of the slits: Now, when a photon triggers the detector, we know which slit it went through. Interestingly, the interference pattern disappears!
The "eraser" comes in: In some versions of the experiment, another measurement is made on the photons after they pass through the slits. This can involve measuring their polarization or phase. Depending on the type of measurement, the interference pattern can reappear, even though we "know" which slit the photons went through!

One photon, all the photons exiting one slit being captured by a detector, or lots of photons, some of which are measured?

The only way a photon can "trigger" a detector is by transferring energy to it, so whatever happens downstream from  the detector doesn't include the original photon, hence no interference, and whatever else you measure isn't related to the photon that triggered the detector!

Whatever the quality or source of its input material, Bard has delivered garbage.
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Re: Does the DIY quantum eraser experiment work the same with circular polarizers?
« Reply #22 on: 16/01/2024 13:02:49 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 16/01/2024 11:44:23
The only way a photon can "trigger" a detector is by transferring energy to it, so whatever happens downstream from  the detector doesn't include the original photon, hence no interference, and whatever else you measure isn't related to the photon that triggered the detector!
Do you think that downstream of optical devices like mirror, lens, prism, polarizer, slit, grating, or waveplates  still contains the original photons?
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Re: Does the DIY quantum eraser experiment work the same with circular polarizers?
« Reply #23 on: 16/01/2024 22:32:40 »
Slit, yes. Everything else, no. But beware - when discussing propagation, we need a wave model, not a particle model.
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Re: Does the DIY quantum eraser experiment work the same with circular polarizers?
« Reply #24 on: 17/01/2024 03:23:33 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 16/01/2024 22:32:40
Slit, yes. Everything else, no. But beware - when discussing propagation, we need a wave model, not a particle model.
What makes slit different than the others?
Isn't grating just multiple slits?
What about a knife edge, which is basically a half slit?
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Re: Does the DIY quantum eraser experiment work the same with circular polarizers?
« Reply #25 on: 17/01/2024 09:30:14 »
A slit is an absence of stuff to interact with, everything else is a presence.
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Re: Does the DIY quantum eraser experiment work the same with circular polarizers?
« Reply #26 on: 17/01/2024 14:37:24 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 17/01/2024 09:30:14
A slit is an absence of stuff to interact with, everything else is a presence.
The edges of the slit are stuff to interact with.
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Re: Does the DIY quantum eraser experiment work the same with circular polarizers?
« Reply #27 on: 01/02/2024 14:24:14 »
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 13/01/2024 05:36:26
Instead of four lines, it answers in four paragraphs. I hope you don't mind.

lol

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Re: Does the DIY quantum eraser experiment work the same with circular polarizers?
« Reply #28 on: 01/02/2024 14:27:17 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 14/01/2024 15:11:55
Except that it doesn't make sense.

umm...okay then.

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