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Was the universe created by an intelligent entity rather than chance evolution?

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Re: Was the universe created by an intelligent entity rather than chance evolution?
« Reply #40 on: 23/02/2022 20:12:00 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 23/02/2022 19:56:02
So what are dinosaurs supposed to deceive us into believing?
Since I understand that there is no common sense explanation of evolution, I therefore imagine and with the involvement of a creator that: The dinosaurs are supposed to make us believe that we are an evolution among the evolution of species. This reinforces the fact that a creation by a creator is impossible. If it weren't for all this the evil spirit would have understood that it's a trap.
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Re: Was the universe created by an intelligent entity rather than chance evolution?
« Reply #41 on: 23/02/2022 20:37:11 »
There is no need for a "common sense" explanation for evolution because science isn't based on common sense. Instead, it is based on evidence.

What's your evidence that dinosaurs were put here to fool us into accepting the reality of evolution? Evolution is neither theistic nor atheistic. Evolution does not preclude the existence of a divine being, so the idea that evolution was dreamed up in order to fool us into thinking there is no God is nonsense. There are a significant number of theists who accept the reality of evolution.

As soon as you start proposing that there is some kind of divine conspiracy that resulted in the fabrication of physical evidence, then it is no longer rational to believe anything. If there is one deception, there could be as many others as you could imagine. Even our own brains could be created specifically to fool us. So there is then no point in trying to figure anything out at all.
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Re: Was the universe created by an intelligent entity rather than chance evolution?
« Reply #42 on: 23/02/2022 20:55:52 »
Appearances are deceiving. Things can look different from the way they really are.
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Re: Was the universe created by an intelligent entity rather than chance evolution?
« Reply #43 on: 23/02/2022 20:57:02 »
No, because any and all forms of reasoning become suspect.

Quote from: Kartazion on 23/02/2022 20:55:52
Appearances are deceiving. Things can look different from the way they really are.

So where is your evidence that dinosaurs are a deception?
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Re: Was the universe created by an intelligent entity rather than chance evolution?
« Reply #44 on: 23/02/2022 21:01:28 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 23/02/2022 20:57:02
So where is your evidence that dinosaurs are a deception?
I only discuss. But none.
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Re: Was the universe created by an intelligent entity rather than chance evolution?
« Reply #45 on: 23/02/2022 21:05:03 »
So then you don't really believe it? You're only speculating?
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Re: Was the universe created by an intelligent entity rather than chance evolution?
« Reply #46 on: 23/02/2022 21:06:27 »
 Just Chat!
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Re: Was the universe created by an intelligent entity rather than chance evolution?
« Reply #47 on: 23/02/2022 21:07:34 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 23/02/2022 20:12:00
... I therefore imagine and with the involvement of a creator that ...
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Re: Was the universe created by an intelligent entity rather than chance evolution?
« Reply #48 on: 23/02/2022 21:08:41 »
So you don't believe it then?
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Re: Was the universe created by an intelligent entity rather than chance evolution?
« Reply #49 on: 23/02/2022 21:11:23 »
Quantum mechanics made me realize that everything was an illusion. So I don't know yet, but I wanted to hear your opinions.
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Re: Was the universe created by an intelligent entity rather than chance evolution?
« Reply #50 on: 23/02/2022 21:36:43 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 23/02/2022 21:11:23
Quantum mechanics made me realize that everything was an illusion.
Why do you say that?
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Re: Was the universe created by an intelligent entity rather than chance evolution?
« Reply #51 on: 23/02/2022 21:52:37 »
Due to its factor of uncertainty.
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Re: Was the universe created by an intelligent entity rather than chance evolution?
« Reply #52 on: 24/02/2022 09:21:31 »
Here are some of the other quotes/sources I'm talking about and so you all know the fact:

"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." Albert Einstein

"Observations not only disturb what is to be measured, they produce it." Pascual Jordan

Quantum experiment in space confirms that reality is what you make it

Quantum physics: Our study suggests objective reality doesn't exist

A century of quantum mechanics questions the fundamental nature of reality
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Re: Was the universe created by an intelligent entity rather than chance evolution?
« Reply #53 on: 24/02/2022 17:07:28 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 23/02/2022 21:52:37
Due to its factor of uncertainty.

Wrong translation leads to wrong interpretation.

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Throughout the main body of his original 1927 paper, written in German, Heisenberg used the word "Ungenauigkeit" ("indeterminacy")
which is conceptually quite different, and

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Historically, the uncertainty principle has been confused with a related effect in physics, called the observer effect, which notes that measurements of certain systems cannot be made without affecting the system,

Which is why you should avoid the company of philosophers, whose job is to make the obvious look obscure.
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Re: Was the universe created by an intelligent entity rather than chance evolution?
« Reply #54 on: 24/02/2022 18:21:10 »
I'm not talking about the uncertainty principle. But I'm talking about uncertainty plain and simple.

You make me say what I didn't write.

Quote from: alancalverd on 24/02/2022 17:07:28
Which is why you should avoid the company of philosophers, whose job is to make the obvious look obscure.
What is this gibberish?
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Re: Was the universe created by an intelligent entity rather than chance evolution?
« Reply #55 on: 24/02/2022 18:52:29 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 24/02/2022 18:21:10
What is this gibberish?
It isn't gibberish.  The point is you can't get a physics education by watching a few YouTubes and skimming a few physics articles.  That leads to huge misunderstandings.
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Re: Was the universe created by an intelligent entity rather than chance evolution?
« Reply #56 on: 24/02/2022 18:58:06 »
Interesting. What huge misunderstandings are you talking about?
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Re: Was the universe created by an intelligent entity rather than chance evolution?
« Reply #57 on: 24/02/2022 19:06:43 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 24/02/2022 18:58:06
Interesting. What huge misunderstandings are you talking about?
A lot of what you write.  This for instance, "Quantum mechanics made me realize that everything was an illusion. "
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Re: Was the universe created by an intelligent entity rather than chance evolution?
« Reply #58 on: 24/02/2022 19:16:14 »
"Quantum mechanics made me realize that everything was an illusion" because and based on reliable source that:
Quote from: Kartazion on 24/02/2022 09:21:31
Here are some of the other quotes/sources I'm talking about and so you all know the fact:

"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." Albert Einstein

"Observations not only disturb what is to be measured, they produce it." Pascual Jordan

Quantum experiment in space confirms that reality is what you make it

Quantum physics: Our study suggests objective reality doesn't exist

A century of quantum mechanics questions the fundamental nature of reality

What else?
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Re: Was the universe created by an intelligent entity rather than chance evolution?
« Reply #59 on: 24/02/2022 20:27:39 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 24/02/2022 19:16:14
What else?
You can't learn physics by reading quotes.
Pretty much every conclusion you came up with in your harmonic oscillatory thread was wrong.

I find it funny/embarrassing/sad that you ask a question in an OP and then mark your own response as the best answer.  I think this is the second time you've done that - it is just a weird thing to do IMO.
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