[Zer0]

Not sure what you're trying to explain in here.
Sure that I'm not capable of understanding it.
But I'll still ask...

" The Sun, rises in the East, sets in the West. "

What sort of a Sentence is the above mentioned?

(not tryin to interrupt ur OP, wasn't doin that previously either, just lil curious to know wat is goin on in here, ignore the query n go ahead if u wish, totally fine wit me)

[Zer0]

This is kinda Weird!
The moment i get Enthusiastic about the Topic...
The OP simply Disappears.

(HEY! Eddie Pls Come Back)

[Eddie Mars (OP)]

Hi,

Here, at some point, a young British mathematician refers to numbers as adjectives and nouns.

Also, somehow, one gets the feeling that a set is a thing.

What IS a Number? As Explained by a Mathematician

Ernst Zermelo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Zermelo


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Have a nice day.

[Eddie Mars (OP)]

Hi,



Complementaries:




full set (natural numbers ( 1; 2; ... ))  -  empty set (natural number (zero))        /        finite set

-

finite set  -  infinite set

-

...


-   -   -


 - How nice:

     mathematics for mathematicians;

     linguistics for linguists;

     politics for politicians;

     ...

 - Sarcasm!?

 - You think?

[Eddie Mars (OP)]

allegory of the cave (Socrates and Plato);
time and space are part of mind (Kant);
Dependency grammar (Lucien Tesnière);
Transactional analysis (Eric Berne)

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John Godfrey Saxe I (1816 - 1887)

"The Blind Men and the Elephant"


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Samuel Johnson (1709 - 1784)

"Language is the dress of thought; every time you talk your mind is on parade."

A Grammar of the English Tongue
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/15097/15097-h/15097-h.htm


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https://www.etymonline.com/

https://affixes.org/


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Eric Berne (1910 - 1970)

transactions; hunger; ...



The types of hunger:

( a ) food-hunger;

( b ) stimulus-hunger;

( c ) recognition-hunger;

( d ) structure-hunger.

Pages 12-13 ( a ), ( b ) and ( c ) SOCIAL INTERCOURSE.

Page 14 ( d ) THE STRUCTURING OF TIME.

Games people play
https://archive.org/details/games-people-play-the-psycholo-eric-berne/mode/2up?view=theater



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/to be more precise/


"Static": Things, Connections/Spaces


Equivalence "gives" Sides (points of view).

Set "gives" Complementarity (the whole and its parts).

...

Connection_over_1 "gives" Existence (States/Qualities).






"Dynamic": Flows

...

Genitive forms Feeding/Eating. (to eat is to live, to feed is to work)


Change of State/Quality is here. (Creation - Annihilation, among others)

...



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The question is:

If one follows Kant, which are the flows (time, ...) and the spaces?

[Eddie Mars (OP)]

Hi,

adverb
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/adverb

a word belonging to one of the major form classes in any of numerous languages, typically serving as a modifier of a verb, an adjective, ...

So, are verbs and adjectives related somehow!?


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And names. Naming is so "natural", isn't it?


Allegory of the cave ( 7:08 min. - 8:34 min. )

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Worm, Labyrinth (1986)

[Zer0]

What do We call a ' Word ' which is Meaningless?

[Eddie Mars (OP)]

Hi, Zer0,

from Reply #8 on: 30/12/2022

Word is Name.
/to have a word (with someone)/

A sentence is Word. A phrase is Word. A word is Word. A root is Word. An affix is Word. A word ending is Word.
A word is made of words.

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Set (Connection_without_direction/order) or Equivalence (Connection_without_direction/order)?!
Set will be used for simplicity, Equivalence will be meant.

Word is both Set (Connection; Connection is Thing) and every element (Thing) of that Set of:

written word - encoding of letters (, signs and gestures);
spoken word - encoding of sounds;
misspelled, mispronounced, ... word - encoding recognised as the word in question;
meaning - encoding of/through Things and Spaces.

Meaningful_Word is a Set (Word) which contains Meaning.
not_Meaningful_Word (gibberish, babble) is a Set (Word) which does not contain Meaning.


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Let's imagine that someone speaks many languages.

Then

one event: John read (now, 1d) book

can be encoded in many "languages" /in many "simple sentences"/.
 
/one event   -  many "languages"/



"simple sentence" in English: "John is reading a book."

"simple sentence" in German: " ..."

"simple sentence" in French: " ... "

"simple sentence" in Japanese: " ..."

...

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Actually, there isn't Language per se  -  just a consciousness at work.

"Languagising" is nothing special.

[paul cotter]

Oh dear, here we go, again!

[Zer0]

Meaningful_Word is a Set (Word) which contains Meaning.
not_Meaningful_Word (gibberish, babble) is a Set (Word) which does not contain Meaning.

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Actually, there isn't Language per se  -  just a consciousness at work.

"Languagising" is nothing special.

I was trying to think about something " Meaningless " or anything " Useless " .
But i found Nothing.

e.g. - [ yzarc ] is a collection of random alphabets which could likely explain what Meaninglessness or Uselessness depicts.

But at that very moment, as i use
 " yzarc " as an Example, it becomes Meaningful & Useful.

Are you Aware of a word, Any word, which is without Meaning?


ps - Languaging is simply exchanging Information, and to be able to do it in a comprehensible & sensible manner, does indeed feel like something Special.

[paul cotter]

ZerO, this thread is the very epitome of meaninglessness and uselessness.

[Eddie Mars (OP)]

Hi,


One (thing): will, ...

Society (space/rules (axioms)): freedom, ...

-

Solipsism

-

...

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Romanes eunt domus

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Irregular Verbs: sum/esse (be)

[Eddie Mars (OP)]

Hi,


"
CHAPTER I

INTRODUCTORY

...

Language is nothing but a set of human habits, the purpose of which is to give
expression to thoughts and feelings, and especially to impart them to others. As with
other habits it is not to be expected that they should be perfectly consistent. No one can
speak exactly as everybody else or speak exactly in the same way under all circumstances
and at all moments, hence a good deal of vacillation here and there.

..."

Essentials of English Grammar, Otto Jespersen
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ffiDSTwO4g1utPdIxSMiSbK714IUsr-_/view


Otto Jespersen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Jespersen


Giuseppe Peano
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuseppe_Peano


Observer - Origin in 0-d?!

[Eddie Mars (OP)]

Hi,

What IS a Number? As Explained by a Mathematician

14:59 min.

"We don't want our international standard numbers to contain anything physical. We want them to be abstract, existing in mind alone."

abstract (adj.)
https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=abstract

[Eddie Mars (OP)]

solipsism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solipsism

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Further Reminiscences of Ijon Tichy (~ /jon 'tihi/), p. 13

https://ia802800.us.archive.org/23/items/LemStanislawMemoirsOfASpaceTraveller/%5BLem_Stanislaw%5D_Memoirs%20of%20a%20space%20traveller.pdf

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Stanislaw Lem
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanis%C5%82aw_Lem

[Eddie Mars (OP)]

Hi,

Philosophy in 36 seconds

3rd Rock from the Sun, S6.E10, There's No Business Like Dick Business,
the second half of the last scene

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doubt (v.)
https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=doubt

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predicate (n.)
https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=predicate

-

theory (n.)
https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=theory

-

...

[Eddie Mars (OP)]

Hi,

Aristotle was a student of Plato, Plato was a student of Socrates.


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Why does Aristotle suggest one is not a number?



Connection_over_one  (a thing in its existence)   -   the unit

Connection_over_one (one/Set_"over"_one)  -  the number one


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"There are a couple of loose ends I'd like to tie up. Nothing important you understand."
Columbo

-

beginning and end

Amy Helps Sheldon With His Closure Issue

-

...

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Mind Your Language (TV Series 1977-1986)

[Eddie Mars (OP)]

Hi,

Truth is what authority says it is.

authority (n.)
https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=authority

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The Language of Logic

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Feelings are nothing special.

Feelings, 3rd Rock from the Sun, TV Series 1996 - 2001

-

"Feelings are nothing special."

Actually, they are everything.

Your brain doesn't detect reality. It creates it. | Lisa Feldman Barrett

 experience = event

[Eddie Mars (OP)]

Hi,

Creating a conscious machine is creating life. And life has to be contained.

-

To exploit life (a conscious machine), one creates a space.

   A space is equivalent to "natural laws":
   
   1. Life is stuffed;
   
   2. Mushroom treatment;

   3. ...

   -

          1. Entropy (space eats / life is stuffed)

              One can't win; one can't break even; one can't get out of the game

      
           2. Mushroom treatment
                https://wordhistories.net/2020/01/01/mushroom-dark-fed-bullshit/
      
           3. ...

[Zer0]

@OP

What ' Laws ' in the Cosmos do you consider
" Unbreakable " ?

ps - not an argument or debate, just a curious enquiry, that's all.
: )