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Re: This is definitely the first Perpetual motion
« Reply #60 on: 24/09/2022 17:48:19 »
Quote from: JLindgaard on 24/09/2022 15:34:15
I am building it so I can have corrective surgery. No working wheel, no life ever.
You need a plan B.
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Re: This is definitely the first Perpetual motion
« Reply #61 on: 24/09/2022 17:49:52 »
Quote from: JLindgaard on 24/09/2022 15:34:15
Of course if I get this working then it will be a black eye for the scientific community.

We have proof that it won't work.

Quote from: JLindgaard on 24/09/2022 15:34:15
Gravity has no energy, right? That's why it has to generate its own energy

Did you not read what I posted about potential energy?
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Re: This is definitely the first Perpetual motion
« Reply #62 on: 24/09/2022 18:08:31 »
 I'm not going to post in here anymore so it doesn't matter. I mean the video in the OP shows that a mechanical advantage can be gained. That kind of proves it is possible. I also saw your kind remarks to someone who posted about potential energy. This means that I am being singled out because I am not welcome here because I do not like bored chemist. He hasn't shown where he knows anything yet has God status. I don't think a "real" science forum would make someone a God. I think that's all I really need to know.
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Re: This is definitely the first Perpetual motion
« Reply #63 on: 24/09/2022 21:01:26 »
Quote from: JLindgaard on 24/09/2022 18:08:31
He hasn't shown where he knows anything
Yes I have; it's just that you didn't understand it.


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Quote from: JLindgaard on 24/09/2022 18:08:31
I don't think a "real" science forum would make someone a God.

It's a joke.
Quote from: JLindgaard on 24/09/2022 18:08:31
. I think that's all I really need to know.

Nope, you also need to know about the conservation of energy.

Quote from: JLindgaard on 24/09/2022 18:08:31
This means that I am being singled out because I am not welcome here because I do not like bored chemist.
Nobody cares if you like me.
It's not as if you actually know me anyway.

But there's something important you need to realise.
You are not arguing with me, you are arguing with the laws of physics.

You might have a chance against me.
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Re: This is definitely the first Perpetual motion
« Reply #64 on: 24/09/2022 23:00:32 »
Quote from: JLindgaard on 24/09/2022 18:08:31
I'm not going to post in here anymore so it doesn't matter.
Good
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Re: This is definitely the first Perpetual motion
« Reply #65 on: 24/09/2022 23:09:38 »
Quote from: JLindgaard on 24/09/2022 18:08:31
I mean the video in the OP shows that a mechanical advantage can be gained. That kind of proves it is possible.

No, it doesn't. Noether's theorem proves it's impossible.

Quote from: JLindgaard on 24/09/2022 18:08:31
I also saw your kind remarks to someone who posted about potential energy. This means that I am being singled out because I am not welcome here because I do not like bored chemist.

I don't see how one thing is related to another. Neither yours nor perPedes' machines will work. You not liking Bored Chemist has nothing to do with it.

Quote from: JLindgaard on 24/09/2022 18:08:31
He hasn't shown where he knows anything yet has God status. I don't think a "real" science forum would make someone a God.

Bored Chemist does not have God status. The term "Naked Science Forum GOD!" is a title automatically applied to any member when they make enough posts. Someone who posts genius content and someone who posts stupid content will both receive that title if they make enough posts. It has no correlation to their authority or intelligence here.
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Re: This is definitely the first Perpetual motion
« Reply #66 on: 24/09/2022 23:34:22 »
"Mechanical advantage" is the ratio of output distance or angle to input movement. It does not (cannot) imply an increase in power or energy.
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Re: This is definitely the first Perpetual motion
« Reply #67 on: 26/09/2022 11:49:37 »
its funny to read this, because while you see the maschine is runing, you tell us the whole day why its imposible that such a maschine will run   :o
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Re: This is definitely the first Perpetual motion
« Reply #68 on: 26/09/2022 15:14:10 »
Quote from: perPedes on 26/09/2022 11:49:37
you tell us the whole day why its imposible that such a maschine will run
Correct, a perpetual motion machine is not possible.  If your machine is running it is not a perpetual machine.
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Re: This is definitely the first Perpetual motion
« Reply #69 on: 26/09/2022 15:22:30 »
and where does the energy come from, that spins the chain and compensates the friction ?
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Re: This is definitely the first Perpetual motion
« Reply #70 on: 26/09/2022 18:57:42 »
Quote from: perPedes on 26/09/2022 15:22:30
and where does the energy come from, that spins the chain and compensates the friction ?
Where indeed!  Perpetual motion requires magic energy to work.
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Re: This is definitely the first Perpetual motion
« Reply #71 on: 26/09/2022 20:46:53 »
Quote from: Origin on 26/09/2022 15:14:10
Correct, a perpetual motion machine is not possible.  If your machine is running it is not a perpetual machine.
And, just to clarify, if it's not running, it's not a perpetual motion machine.
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Re: This is definitely the first Perpetual motion
« Reply #72 on: 26/09/2022 21:51:17 »
theres no magic, theres formulas, the problem is, you cant handle even such easy formulas
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Re: This is definitely the first Perpetual motion
« Reply #73 on: 26/09/2022 21:53:58 »
Quote from: perPedes on 26/09/2022 21:51:17
theres no magic, theres formulas, the problem is, you cant handle even such easy formulas
There's  plenty of formulae.
If you misuse them you can convince yourself that PM is possible.
But you won't convince anyone who understands why it's impossible and, more importantly, you won't fool reality.
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Re: This is definitely the first Perpetual motion
« Reply #74 on: 26/09/2022 22:22:30 »
only two sides with 5 formulae. no problem. and sources. not my formulae, that are yours, you claim at least
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Re: This is definitely the first Perpetual motion
« Reply #75 on: 26/09/2022 22:36:12 »
Quote from: perPedes on 26/09/2022 22:22:30
no problem.
There's a very clear problem.
You think you have a perpetual motion machine, but you don't.
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Re: This is definitely the first Perpetual motion
« Reply #76 on: 26/09/2022 22:52:16 »
Quote from: perPedes on 26/09/2022 21:51:17
the problem is, you cant handle even such easy formulas
But you  can, so bring us the working machine.
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Re: This is definitely the first Perpetual motion
« Reply #77 on: 27/09/2022 06:55:56 »
year of course, to bring it to you, would be much easier than you build the maschine in two days by your own, pumpkin
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Re: This is definitely the first Perpetual motion
« Reply #78 on: 27/09/2022 07:56:11 »
Quote from: perPedes on 27/09/2022 06:55:56
much easier than you build the maschine
It's still impossible to build the machine.
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Re: This is definitely the first Perpetual motion
« Reply #79 on: 27/09/2022 09:54:34 »
of course its imposible - for you for sure. a engineer needs ferrofluid, magnetical chain and a vessel. and viola
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