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Re: What's your advice on writing a series of story?
« Reply #20 on: 09/08/2023 11:53:25 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 09/08/2023 09:10:34
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 08/08/2023 23:46:48
a trainer ........ explains the dangers in some forbidden techniques in competitive martial arts.

Do you have any dealings with real children? The bottle is clearly marked "poison", and Junior Shipman  knows exactly what not to do with it.

It depends on their age.
Perhaps they didn't know how to read, or what the word poison means. But it should not stop you from telling them not to drink poison.
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Re: What's your advice on writing a series of story?
« Reply #21 on: 09/08/2023 11:58:44 »
Quote from: paul cotter on 09/08/2023 11:26:55
Nah Hamdani, it will never sell. For the great unwashed today, I recommend hard core porn!
Selling it is not a priority. I don't really mind if I have to publish it for free. With enough number of readers, I might still get something from advertising.
I don't think it's legal to publish porn involving children.
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Re: What's your advice on writing a series of story?
« Reply #22 on: 09/08/2023 12:14:29 »
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 09/08/2023 11:53:25
But it should not stop you from telling them not to drink poison.
There's a significant difference between telling someone not to drink anything labelled poison because you will die, and telling them "don't punch or kick like this [demonstrates] because you will kill the other person".

I'm sure teachers and parents tell kids not to attack each other with knives, but they still do. The advantage of karate is that you can't be arrested for having bare hands.

So how about a book about a man who wrote a book whose heroes are children equipped by a master with credible, invisible but lethal skills, and published it for free on the internet. Now you have a moral question worth discussing!
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Re: What's your advice on writing a series of story?
« Reply #23 on: 09/08/2023 13:17:25 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 09/08/2023 12:14:29
There's a significant difference between telling someone not to drink anything labelled poison because you will die, and telling them "don't punch or kick like this [demonstrates] because you will kill the other person".

I'm sure teachers and parents tell kids not to attack each other with knives, but they still do. The advantage of karate is that you can't be arrested for having bare hands.
What seems to be lacking is knowledge of the consequences, directly and indirectly, to the individuals involved as well as other people around them.

What's also usually lacking is the awareness of long term goals, and how their decisions affect the chance to achieve those goals.

Attacking people barehandedly can still be punished. On the other hand, self defense using guns is permitted.
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Re: What's your advice on writing a series of story?
« Reply #24 on: 09/08/2023 13:42:33 »
I've chosen the title of the series. It's Universal Utopia. The phrase was inspired by a game titled Final Fantasy. They both consist of an adjective and a noun. The words start with the same letter.

I've planned some episodes with their own theme songs. Some of the songs inspired the stories. But sometimes the story comes first, and I found the matching songs later on. I've written the plots of the series by their theme songs.
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Re: What's your advice on writing a series of story?
« Reply #25 on: 09/08/2023 13:55:42 »
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 09/08/2023 13:17:25
What seems to be lacking is knowledge of the consequences, directly and indirectly, to the individuals involved as well as other people around them.
I'm pretty sure that anyone who stabs another several times with a knife has a good idea of what he intends to achieve.




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On the other hand, self defense using guns is permitted.
Not under UK law.
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Re: What's your advice on writing a series of story?
« Reply #26 on: 09/08/2023 17:37:36 »
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 07/08/2023 21:57:20
What I meant was to amplify those above average abilities to extraordinary levels as far as permitted by natural laws, like conservation of momentum and thermodynamics.

I'm rather fond of exploring ideas like that myself. I often find it hard not to think deeply about the nature and consequences of superpowers. When trying to come up with my own fictional world, I tried calculating an upper limit on they might be capable of achieving. My idea was that their bodies convert nitrogen in the air that they breathed into energy ala E=mc2 (since the body doesn't need the nitrogen we breathe anyway). I still have the resulting power written down in a notebook somewhere. It was a lot, obviously. Didn't have an obvious solution for how they would convert it all into useful work without cooking themselves, though.
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Re: What's your advice on writing a series of story?
« Reply #27 on: 10/08/2023 10:36:10 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 09/08/2023 13:55:42
I'm pretty sure that anyone who stabs another several times with a knife has a good idea of what he intends to achieve.
Not sure if it applies to kids. It depends on the location of the stabbing.
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Re: What's your advice on writing a series of story?
« Reply #28 on: 12/08/2023 12:23:15 »
Kids like to read books with a lot of illustrations. Nowadays image generators from text are getting better quickly. I think I'll give it a try. There are many tutorials on how to use them to produce consistent characters.
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Re: What's your advice on writing a series of story?
« Reply #29 on: 12/08/2023 22:44:48 »
You seem to be moving towards a gory comic, or possibly an anatomy textbook.

In a flash, radioactive Marine Barbie decrypted the alien battle plan. "This calls for the active-shielded titanium evening dress" she thought "but my tattooist appointment will have to wait". Changing sex whilst running through the kitchen*  he picked up a serrated carving knife and disembowelled the first zombie. "just for once" he said "let's forget the bloody president and concentrate on curing myopia, with a proportionate carbon offset and lashings of ginger beer."

I'll leave it to you to decide how he/she gets reunited with the dog.


*you'll need the kitchen run if it's ever going to be a movie
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Re: What's your advice on writing a series of story?
« Reply #30 on: 13/08/2023 10:18:15 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 09/08/2023 13:55:42
Not under UK law.
Yes it is, as long as it's "reasonable".

An 80 year old in a wheelchair who shoots a twentysomething running at him with an axe is acting legally- as long as the firearm is licensed.
They  might be wise to claim they were aiming for the legs.
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Re: What's your advice on writing a series of story?
« Reply #31 on: 13/08/2023 10:24:16 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 12/08/2023 22:44:48
You seem to be moving towards a gory comic, or possibly an anatomy textbook.

In a flash, radioactive Marine Barbie decrypted the alien battle plan. "This calls for the active-shielded titanium evening dress" she thought "but my tattooist appointment will have to wait". Changing sex whilst running through the kitchen*  he picked up a serrated carving knife and disembowelled the first zombie. "just for once" he said "let's forget the bloody president and concentrate on curing myopia, with a proportionate carbon offset and lashings of ginger beer."

I'll leave it to you to decide how he/she gets reunited with the dog.


*you'll need the kitchen run if it's ever going to be a movie
Whose hallucination is that? Is it you, or a free AI model?
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Re: What's your advice on writing a series of story?
« Reply #32 on: 13/08/2023 18:41:45 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 13/08/2023 10:18:15
An 80 year old in a wheelchair who shoots a twentysomething running at him with an axe is acting legally- as long as the firearm is licensed.
They  might be wise to claim they were aiming for the legs.
The farmer who shot a persistent and violent intruder in the middle of the night, ended up in prison. His shotgun was indeed licensed.
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Re: What's your advice on writing a series of story?
« Reply #33 on: 13/08/2023 18:44:57 »
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 13/08/2023 10:24:16
Whose hallucination is that? Is it you, or a free AI model?
I'm just summarising all the trendy woke things that will appeal to modern youth.   There is an alternative, based more accurately on observation:

John was staring at his phone. Then the world ended.
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Re: What's your advice on writing a series of story?
« Reply #34 on: 13/08/2023 19:10:00 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 13/08/2023 18:41:45
The farmer who shot a persistent and violent intruder in the middle of the night, ended up in prison. His shotgun was indeed licensed.

The famous case is this one?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Martin_(farmer)

"However, prosecutors cast doubt on his evidence and pointed out that he did not have a valid firearms certificate."

"Martin shot three times towards the intruders (once when they were in the stairwell and twice more when they were trying to flee through the window of an adjacent ground floor room). Barras was hit in the back ".

That's not self defence, is it?

Was there some other case recently.?
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Re: What's your advice on writing a series of story?
« Reply #35 on: 14/08/2023 06:46:59 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 13/08/2023 18:44:57
There is an alternative, based more accurately on observation:

John was staring at his phone. Then the world ended.
What kids can learn from this kind of story? How can it help them to make better decisions?
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Re: What's your advice on writing a series of story?
« Reply #36 on: 14/08/2023 11:23:19 »
They might learn that all sorts of really interesting stuff is going on whilst they are staring at their phones.

Lesson: ditch the phone and live while you can.

And not just kids. My mum and her neighbor were excited watching an eclipse. Just as the moon shadow entered the solar disc the neighbor said "I'm going indoors - this is bound to be on television". 
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Re: What's your advice on writing a series of story?
« Reply #37 on: 14/08/2023 11:33:20 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 13/08/2023 19:10:00
"Martin shot three times towards the intruders (once when they were in the stairwell and twice more when they were trying to flee through the window of an adjacent ground floor room). Barras was hit in the back ".

That's not self defence, is it?
Odd that a farmer didn't have a valid licence - it's as much part of the business as a driving licence. A few days out of date, perhaps?

Now if a farmer shoots and seriously wounds a dog that's worrying sheep (as he is entitled to do)  the law requires him to finish the job. So why not humans attacking him?

You pay your taxes to maintain nuclear weapons  that will only be used in retribution against other civilians, under the heading of "defence".  Why are a few shotgun pellets in the arse of a known scumbag considered unreasonable? 
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Re: What's your advice on writing a series of story?
« Reply #38 on: 14/08/2023 11:49:12 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 14/08/2023 11:33:20
Odd that a farmer didn't have a valid licence
Not in the circumstances.
"Martin had his shotgun certificate revoked in 1994 after he found a man stealing apples in his orchard and shot a hole in the back of his vehicle".

Quote from: alancalverd on 14/08/2023 11:33:20
So why not humans attacking him?
And, once again...
Quote from: Bored chemist on 13/08/2023 19:10:00
Martin shot three times towards the intruders ... when they were trying to flee

Shooting someone in the back when they are running away is not self defence.
At that stage what was he defending himself from?


Quote from: alancalverd on 14/08/2023 11:33:20
Why are a few shotgun pellets in the arse of a known scumbag considered unreasonable?

If that was the issue, you would have a point (maybe not a very good one).

Mr Martin killed a man who was trying to escape.
You sound like you are trying to defend that action.


The facts remain;
You can legally use a gun in self defence in the UK.
But shooting someone as they are running away is not self defence (Unless you can convince the jury that it was "reasonable force"- good luck with that).
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Re: What's your advice on writing a series of story?
« Reply #39 on: 14/08/2023 12:49:30 »
So it's OK to kill an attacker with a shot to the front, but not to wound him in the arse. Time to replace the shotgun with a semiautomatic rifle, US-style. Though it's buggerall use against  dogs, foxes, pigeons and rabbits, and can make a mess of an otherwise edible deer.
Quote from: Bored chemist on 14/08/2023 11:49:12
Not in the circumstances.
"Martin had his shotgun certificate revoked in 1994 after he found a man stealing apples in his orchard and shot a hole in the back of his vehicle".
So damaging an intruder's property is an offence, but killing him isn't. Be careful you don't make holes in his clothes next time - one shot to the head, please. Which definitely means a short rifle, not a shotgun. H&K do a nice police weapon with a laser.

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Shooting someone in the back when they are running away is not self defence.
But incinerating noncombatants with nuclear weapons is.  I learn something every day.
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