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Could quantum mechanics be wrong?

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Re: Could quantum mechanics be wrong?
« Reply #120 on: 22/05/2024 08:59:51 »
Most people are ignorant about almost everything, and there's a lot of rubbish on the internet. Thanks to AI, there's an infinite amount of recycled rubbish too.  But there's a lot of knowledge and understanding in good science textbooks.
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« Reply #121 on: 22/05/2024 19:39:29 »
I could not be more in agreement. How many times does it have to be said before it sinks in?
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Re: Could quantum mechanics be wrong?
« Reply #122 on: 24/05/2024 17:00:32 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 22/05/2024 08:59:51
Most people are ignorant about almost everything, and there's a lot of rubbish on the internet. Thanks to AI, there's an infinite amount of recycled rubbish too.  But there's a lot of knowledge and understanding in good science textbooks.
Shallow AI can't distinguish between good and bad data. Just like little children can't do the same.
How do you distinguish between good and bad science textbooks?
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Re: Could quantum mechanics be wrong?
« Reply #123 on: 24/05/2024 17:21:24 »
Good textbooks give you equations that predict what you actually observe.
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Re: Could quantum mechanics be wrong?
« Reply #124 on: 25/05/2024 02:04:01 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 24/05/2024 17:21:24
Good textbooks give you equations that predict what you actually observe.
Have you found a good textbook that correctly predicted non-diffractive edge?
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Re: Could quantum mechanics be wrong?
« Reply #125 on: 25/05/2024 10:43:29 »
I have textbooks that explain why the concept is an oxymoron. I think we discussed it at least a year ago.
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Re: Could quantum mechanics be wrong?
« Reply #126 on: 26/05/2024 17:07:52 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 25/05/2024 10:43:29
I have textbooks that explain why the concept is an oxymoron. I think we discussed it at least a year ago.
How is it an oxymoron?
Which textbooks?
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Re: Could quantum mechanics be wrong?
« Reply #127 on: 26/05/2024 23:51:15 »
Edges diffract. The diffracted intensity downstream of a "permeable edge" is likely to be weak and probably swamped by refraction.   
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Re: Could quantum mechanics be wrong?
« Reply #128 on: 28/05/2024 04:06:01 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 26/05/2024 23:51:15
Edges diffract. The diffracted intensity downstream of a "permeable edge" is likely to be weak and probably swamped by refraction.   
You are demonstrating a common misconception in logic: confusing observation with universal truth, similar to stating that all swans are white. I'll let Gemini explain it.

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This concept falls under the umbrella of the problem of induction. Here's why:

We might see many white swans and conclude "all swans are white." This is based on observing multiple instances.
But logic doesn't allow us to guarantee a universal truth from specific examples. There could always be a black swan we haven't encountered yet.
The discovery of black swans in Australia in the 17th century famously disproved the idea that all swans are white. This highlights the importance of considering the possibility of exceptions when making generalizations.

There isn't a single, universally agreed-upon name for this specific fallacy, but some terms that might be relevant include:

Affirming the consequent: This fallacy occurs when you assume because something follows from a hypothesis, the hypothesis must be true. In this case, seeing only white swans might lead you to believe all swans are white, which isn't necessarily true.
False dichotomy: This fallacy presents a situation as having only two options, when there might be more. In this case, it might lead someone to think swans are either white or not swans (black), excluding the possibility of swans having other colors.
So, while the statement itself isn't a fallacy, it demonstrates an important concept in logic: don't mistake limited observations for absolute truths.

The edge of surface on dielectric material undergoing total internal reflection shows non-diffractive behavior in visible light. But the edge of a simple aluminum plate also shows non-diffractive behavior in microwave transmission.
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Re: Could quantum mechanics be wrong?
« Reply #129 on: 28/05/2024 17:42:08 »
Typical bunkum from a chatbot.

You need to distinguish between an edge and a planar interface.
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Re: Could quantum mechanics be wrong?
« Reply #130 on: 03/06/2024 15:41:33 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 28/05/2024 17:42:08
Typical bunkum from a chatbot.

You need to distinguish between an edge and a planar interface.
How can you explain this observation?
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 28/05/2024 04:06:01
the edge of a simple aluminum plate also shows non-diffractive behavior in microwave transmission.
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Re: Could quantum mechanics be wrong?
« Reply #131 on: 03/06/2024 18:49:54 »
Please remind me of the original experimental video

https://www.nikhef.nl/~h73/kn1c/praktikum/phywe/LEP/Experim/4_5_05.pdf suggests otherwise
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Re: Could quantum mechanics be wrong?
« Reply #132 on: 04/06/2024 16:49:55 »
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 22/03/2017 05:18:47
I have uploaded new video showing diffraction in microwave frequency.


Basically, the experiment result leads us to conclude that diffraction comes from the material blocking the microwave path. When the obstruction is opaque enough, we find no diffraction. It's similar to my experiment using laser showing non-diffractive obstruction.

This result is not widely known yet.
 


Quote from: alancalverd on 03/06/2024 18:49:54
Please remind me of the original experimental video

https://www.nikhef.nl/~h73/kn1c/praktikum/phywe/LEP/Experim/4_5_05.pdf suggests otherwise
Instead of diffraction, it shows more about interference.
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Re: Could quantum mechanics be wrong?
« Reply #133 on: 04/06/2024 21:52:45 »
What do you think was happening at 1:24?
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Re: Could quantum mechanics be wrong?
« Reply #134 on: 06/06/2024 16:29:42 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 04/06/2024 21:52:45
What do you think was happening at 1:24?
IMO, it's deflection, or reflection at a grazing angle.
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Re: Could quantum mechanics be wrong?
« Reply #135 on: 02/07/2024 11:32:31 »
Doesn't matter. It has been replaced by Quantum Computing.
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Re: Could quantum mechanics be wrong?
« Reply #136 on: 06/07/2024 07:55:17 »
Quote from: mxplxxx on 02/07/2024 11:32:31
Doesn't matter. It has been replaced by Quantum Computing.

What does quantum computing say?
Is it different from what quantum mechanics has said?
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Re: Could quantum mechanics be wrong?
« Reply #137 on: 06/07/2024 08:20:04 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 28/05/2024 17:42:08
You need to distinguish between an edge and a planar interface.
What's the difference? Is it relevant to the subjects of discussion?

Half of the laser beam falls on the reflective surface of the glass slab, while the other half falls on the transparent surface of the glass slab.
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Re: Could quantum mechanics be wrong?
« Reply #138 on: 06/07/2024 12:16:09 »
How DO Molecules Store Energy?

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Chemistry text books say molecules like glucose store energy in bonds. Are they wrong? What even is chemical energy anyway? And what ARE chemical bonds? And are they JUST abstract concepts? Are Derek Muller and Nick Lucid correct when they say bonds don?t store energy? We look at the science and chemistry of molecular energy and answer the question: Where do molecules store their energy?
IMO, this video provides intuitive explanation to answer the question.
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What IS activation energy, really?
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Re: Could quantum mechanics be wrong?
« Reply #139 on: 06/07/2024 12:20:19 »
I wonder why my previous post was rejected. It turns out that removing the character @ from the text solved the problem.
« Last Edit: 06/07/2024 12:23:23 by hamdani yusuf »
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