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Science and God - Does it mix ?
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some people might say go back to god? or god loves you or dog still loves you? why do you hate god and stuff like that.
I think to myself? huh? I don't hate god. I hate that it was given to me and blocked so much potential that I have. Who is god? I love god, i do love myself. there is good things in it though. wisdom from the older generations that are still valid maxims today.
About science and god mixing? They can mix but it would be this really weird incoherent mix from time to time.
THere reason there has to be a maker is because our mind wants to believe in this higher being who made everything so perfect. Our logic is kinda cruel to us. Whoever programmed us did a somewhat good job of trying to keep us into their program. WE try to jump out but go back to wanting to believe in a higher being. that is what we search for in life something that created what we can't. I have found a higher being in my life. My girlfriend. She is a goddess. WHen u use the elements of the earth you will produce marvelous things because the elements are there used to create what nature can create. We can reverse everything we can do anything. For every disease thereis a cure for every medicine thereis a diease. for every cure there is a way. for every way there is a road. ok going off the topic. everything the human can think of is reachable. WHY? because we are using the mind an intrument that sees and can build out of what we see that is around. Our minds see things and make things from what we have seen. Nothing is original. Everything that flows through our heads has been seen by the mind and manipulated in some way to form a new idea. An idea that came from pieces of everything that you had saw sometimes in your life. HOw could the mind make something out of nothing? that is impossible, we have to have information.
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There is an old saying that says to pray as if everything depended on God, and work as if everything depended on man. To me, that means, you can't screw up and then pray for God to fix it, then be mad when it doesn't get fixed. You have to do your share, or believe in yourself, as pencilhead puts it. Since we were created with a "superior" mind, I would suppose that our creator intends for us to use it to help ourselves. I never did agree just praying but not taking any action on your own to right the situation, but when you hit a wall and there's nothing else you can do, for me, praying helps. If you would rather accept that things are hopeless and that gives you more peace of mind, then go for it.
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Cripes !!...all I gave was my opinion on the authenticity of the facts behind the bible.....my opinion only and I'll fight for the right for anyone to have theirs too, but I would never preach or try to convert a person to my why of thinking because I strongly believe in the right of freedom of expression as long as it's not adversarial to incite. The fact that we all have differing opinions is just what makes this world so wonderfully cosmopolitan, I would never accept that things are hopeless...I never said that....I just have a confidence that aids me when I need it and I entreat to myself, to call upon my own form of focusing when I feel the need to....I personally do not believe in any form of higher power (that is just my personal opinion)...the Universe went on quite happily for billions of years without me and will continue in it's own merry way with one second bumping into another for billions of years after I've gone too.
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Yeah, but look at all the great discussion that came out of our different opinions. I love it. Hey, and there's nothing wrong with confidence in yourself. Sure makes life a lot more comfortable.
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Absolutely right, couldn't agree more.......sorry, hope I didn't mean to portray such a defensive posture...forgive ?
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I LOVE MATURE PEEPS hehehe I am still alittle on the otherside.
So now that we know your beliefs or some peoples. Those who believe in a higher being/god. Do you believe GOD AND SCIENCE miX?
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....personally, my opinion, I think God and Science do mix, as a subject for deliberation, consideration and debate, but, as a non believer I personally can not entertain the possibility of a Scientific topic based on fact mixing with a power above the forces of nature, though, I am always willing to be convinced and so retain an open mind , not one that is so closed that's it's locked !!!....and I love mature peeps too !!..one day I hope to be one !!!...cheeky !!!
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Yep, God and science mix for me without any problem. Hey Neilep, did you call yourself that as a word scramble for penile? Teasing you! No offense taken by anyone's comments. I would hope we're all open-minded enough to entertain other opinions. But mature peep? Does that mean old broad like me?
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Nancy,....You made me do a big smile and chuckle !!....you know I've never noticed that before, about my username being a word scramble for Penile !!!....you can tell I'm not an anagram addict can't you ?......But neilep is a just my first name(neil) with the first two letters of my surname (Epstein)....oh boy !!(seems I'm in 'bracket/parenthisis mode').......I'm such a dufus brain cos when I registered I didn't realise I was putting my email address as my username !!! but then, it was about 4:30am when I registered so at least I have tiredness to blame for that silly faux pas !!...
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If the universe is said to come to an end, but instantly begin again, then why cant it go along side with an ultimate ruler that will also begin again?
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Normally i dont make fun of sites devoted to religion, but this one time i make an exception. This has to be some kind of conspiracy.
http://objective.jesussave.us/kidz.html
hmm my favorite things mentioned are kanga-jew, the christian thong, and how dinosaurs still walk on the land.....Seriously i guarantee you will laugh after seeing this site!!!!!!
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Hi OmnipotentOne,
Divine Intervention !!!!!...your link above keeps taking me to a site called...paysforsurveys.com....
Regarding as to why there should not be an ultimate ruler that goes side by side with the Universe.....I personally am not dismissing the possibility....but my opinion is that I find it extremely hard to believe without proof that I can see !!!..I will not accept the fact that one has to have faith and believe in a supernatural entity without substantiation......you could also say then, that why not beside God and The Universe is a supreme all-powerful Peanut M&M !!...or anything for that matter.......wish I could get to your link, I need a good laugh, haven't slept in 36hours....
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Neil, this has bog all to do with anything but if you need a laugh have a look at this
http://www.talibanreunited.com/
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T G, that's great (lol, that cured my laugh depletion !!).....have you seen this one ?
http://fatwasam.com/index.htm
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Neil,
I frankly think you should change your name to penile. Why don't you sleep on it and let me know? Ooooh, low blow. Seriously, is there nothing that can be done about your sleep deprivation? What a bummer!
Omni One,
Checked out your site. Didn't find anything about dinosaurs, but I loved the stuff about atheists. Very funny.
Just checked out the other two sites. You guys must be internet junkies. Where and how do you find all these sites? They're hysterical. I understand that Penile doesn't sleep, but what about you, Omni?
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Nancy !!..why you !!!!! :-) .....*sigh*......I wish I could change my name , don't think I can unless I register again........Getting to sleep is an ongoing process for me......I'll get there in the end.....still....one day I'll sleep forever won't I ?.......
I still get routed to another website when I click on Omnis Link *sob, jealous gripe*
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Neil,
I get redirected to paysforsurveys too, tried to alter the address a bit too and the same thing happens. The last count was 36 hours without sleep, have you slept since or can we expect some random and very strange comments soon?
Bezoar,
Luckily not internet junkie as I'd never get anything done but do know a lot of them so I just get to see the funny stuff (sent to me by people who don't get anything done lol)
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Flibble tibble pzzzzzzzzzzt !!!...back door front door !!!....whooopey !!! *sulk yawn*
I did manage to sleep last night/this morning.....I remember listening to the 6am news on the radio and the next thing it was 8:30am.......oh boy !!...2.5 hours...that's almost a good night for me !!!.....Yep !!..I don't want payforsurveys.com....perhaps it's a UK routing thing !!...surely there's a scientist out there who could answer why that's happening, hopefully we'll come across a site where scientists answer things and stuff like that..................DOH !!!
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Hey Penile,
Saw a site that might interest you. Check out
http://www.sleepbetter.com.au/sb_geral.htm
. It's supposed to be some new technique for people with brittle sleep disorders, like you. Sweet Dreams!!!!
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grrrrr !!*cheeky grin*...thanks Nancy :-) I'll check it out......if you don't hear from me within 6 months you can rest assured I have fallen asleep.
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