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QuoteQuote from: Dave Lev on Today at 06:27:15Could it be that the total mass there is several times the Sun mass?No, the Sun is the most massive object in the Solar System by a wide margin (99.8% of the Solar System's mass is in the Sun): https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/solar-system/sun/in-depth/#:~:text=Most%20of%20the%20nebula's%20material,of%20our%20solar%20system's%20mass.
Quote from: Dave Lev on Today at 06:27:15Could it be that the total mass there is several times the Sun mass?
Do you have evidence that there are that many? Let's also not forget that the vast majority of them would be much too far away to help with your tidal energy problem.
Quote from: Dave Lev on Today at 06:27:15How do we know that there are no other invisible dark stars or even blackholes?Because the effects of their gravity would be apparent.That's how we know about dark matter.
It's important to remember that tidal forces drop of as an inverse cube, but attraction drops as an inverse square.So, if the tidal forces were detectable, the attractive forces would be much bigger and we would notice them
So if you want your idea to be taken seriously, you need to show us that the needed number of black holes at the needed distances are really out there. Otherwise, you are just speculating.
The Sun's core isn't made of metal anyway. It's made of hydrogen plasma (which is electrically conductive).
There are not many things in life that are a sure bet, but there is no doubt that after being shown lots of evidence showing Dave that he is wrong he will still double down on his WAG.
Is it realistic to believe that 99.8% from the cloud had been used to create the sun itself?
How this kind of process could be so efficient?
If it is so successful, why the whole 100% didn't fall inwards into the sun?
Could it be that the sun has a nearby twin?
What could force our Sun to oscillate around its mean Galactic orbit?
Therefore, why do we reject the idea that as the moon orbits around the earth (or actually around each other) while they both orbit around the sun
there is High possibility that the Sun orbits around its twin dark star
So why do we ignore the real meaning of this sun wobbling motion?
Why do we refuse to understand that the wombling motion of the sun is a clear indication that there must be some nearby invisible stars or BHs?
We clearly know how the Geodynamo works based on tidal force.
So, instead of claiming that the visible matter is not good enough for the Sun tidal energy and look for other ideas as fusion, why don't we try to find the invisible Stars/Bhs that could do the job.
I still think that there is a fatal problem with this process
It is not realistic for a protostar to increase its internal heat from 1Kc to 10Mc just based on its size.
. However, 10Mc is not good enough for the Fusion.
We need something to start that process. So, how this process could start while there are no neutrinos??
Hence, any nearby hydrogen could potentially be part of the Nuclear fusion process. so why that process would stop at the core? Why it can't continue all they way to the outer aria of the sun
Is there any kind of envelop (or layer) in the sun that keeps the process only in the core?
Any Geodaynamo (even in the toy demo), there must be layers of different components.In Earth it is a solid Iron core, liquid outer core and insolation layer.
So, how could it be that The Sun that is made out of hydrogen plasma (without any metal and isolation) can get its magnetic field.
There is also the problem of starting the Geodynamo.
I assume...
This could be one more indication that there might be a nearby BH that gave the Sun the requested EM starter.
(I will cover the neutrino issue later on):
. We need something to start that process. So, how this process could start while there are no neutrinos??
Dave has presented so many errors...
How this kind of process could be so efficient?How could it be that only 0.2% left over?If it is so successful, why the whole 100% didn't fall inwards into the sun?
It is stated that "All stars are born in pairs: Even the sun had a twin!"https://www.indiatoday.in/education-today/gk-current-affairs/story/stars-born-pairs-983697-2017-06-20Could it be that the sun has a nearby twin?
So why do we ignore the real meaning of this sun wobbling motion?Let's assume that we were not living on earth and it is invisible for us. How could we explain the wobbling motion of the Moon around the Sun? Why do we refuse to understand that the wombling motion of the sun is a clear indication that there must be some nearby invisible stars or BHs?
The science has proved that tidal heat process can generate EM energy.
2. However, 10Mc is not good enough for the Fusion. We need something to start that process. So, how this process could start while there are no neutrinos??
Hence, any nearby hydrogen could potentially be part of the Nuclear fusion process. so why that process would stop at the core? Why it can't continue all they way to the outer aria of the sun - Step by step and over time?Is there any kind of envelop (or layer) in the sun that keeps the process only in the core?
Any Geodaynamo (even in the toy demo), there must be layers of different components.
It can't just work without electricity starter.
, how do we know for sure that this detected type is clearly from the fusion activity in the sun core and not due to some other activity?
So, could it be that we actually measure the electron neutrinos which had been ejected from the hot plasma at the surface of the Sun and not from its core?
So, as there is no seasonal variations and a small day/night flux difference, why can't we assume that we just get Cosmic neutrinos?
why the other stars in the universe can't do the same?
Actually the accretion disc around the SMBH could be an excellent source.
Do we really get all of those 3% Neutrinos from the total energy?
Can you please show the article to support that indication?
n other words, could it be that the detected neutrinos are also due to dark matter?
In other words, could it be that the detected neutrinos are also due to dark matter?
Quote from: Dave Lev on 06/07/2023 06:45:06In other words, could it be that the detected neutrinos are also due to dark matter?I thought you didn't believe in dark matter.
QuoteQuote from: Dave Lev on 04/07/2023 21:18:07It is stated that "All stars are born in pairs: Even the sun had a twin!"https://www.indiatoday.in/education-today/gk-current-affairs/story/stars-born-pairs-983697-2017-06-20Could it be that the sun has a nearby twin?Possibly. That would be the Nemesis hypothesis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemesis_(hypothetical_star) If Nemesis does exist, it would have to be very cool, very low mass star. Otherwise, it would be bright enough to easily detect and we would have found it by now. So the existence of Nemesis wouldn't be good enough to make your model work.
Quote from: Dave Lev on 04/07/2023 21:18:07It is stated that "All stars are born in pairs: Even the sun had a twin!"https://www.indiatoday.in/education-today/gk-current-affairs/story/stars-born-pairs-983697-2017-06-20Could it be that the sun has a nearby twin?
I claim for dark invisible ordinary matter.
As they believe that the dark matter is real and it has the requested mass that is needed to hold the sun in its orbital motion by mighty gravity force, then why this force (from the dark matter) can't be used for the sun requested tidal force.
Doubling posting, I know, but I did some math. Here's a webpage describing the equation to calculate tidal forces: https://www.astro.uvic.ca/~jwillis/teaching/astr201/maths.7.tidal_heating.pdfThe tidal force is described by: (2GM1M2)/r3, whereG is the gravitational constantM1 is the mass of one bodyM2 is the mass of the other body, andr is the distance between the masses.
As electronic Eng., I would compare this tidal push pull mechanism to a push/pull amplifier:https://www.watelectronics.com/push-pull-amplifiers-circuit-diagram-working-and-applications/"Push-pull amplifiers are the combinations of two bipolar junction transistors that is one of P-N-P type and the other is of N-P-N type. In this combination one act as push type and the other acts as pull type."The total power is the sum of the Push power to the Pull power.
So, why the science community have decided to ignore all the internal tidal forces, including the tidal push /pull mechanism, and used the following formula: