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Let us now look at the light permeating through space, the space apparently not opposing the permeating light or having any affect on the light. The observation of the light permeating through space by the human eye, being that of the invisible spectrum, no visible spectrum is observed. The space seemingly empty and colourless in appearance as if there is nothing there, but even a school boy knows the space contains electromagnetic radiation of the invisible kind (invisible spectrum).
Quote from: Thebox on 09/10/2017 23:10:33Let us now look at the light permeating through space, the space apparently not opposing the permeating light or having any affect on the light. The observation of the light permeating through space by the human eye, being that of the invisible spectrum, no visible spectrum is observed. The space seemingly empty and colourless in appearance as if there is nothing there, but even a school boy knows the space contains electromagnetic radiation of the invisible kind (invisible spectrum). It's about here that you go wrong.
Can you just for once pretend you know nothing? Forget Einstein and everything about science you know.
I am going to learn you about time ok? Because in this scenario you are ''clueless'' about time.Time is a quantifiable measurement directly proportional to change. Do you understand the definition? added - I will even tell you how to approach the statement. Firstly we can break the statement down into two segments because the statement says two things:1)Time is a quantifiable measurement 2) directly proportional to changeDo you disagree with 1 or 2?
Quote from: Thebox on 10/10/2017 21:31:30Why would you think time was slowing the clock down?It obviously isn't due to any changes in the internal structure of the clock, given that it's identical when it's sitting on the ground or when it's flying in an airplane. Even unstable subatomic particles take longer to decay when they are moving quickly. So whatever is causing processes to slow down at high speeds or in strong gravity wells affects all devices and processes equally. Also, the amount by which it slows down is in accordance with the amount that Einstein predicted mathematically that it would if time itself is indeed slowing down. Due to these facts, it is perfectly sensible to say that time is slowing down.QuoteThe clock measures time but is not time. You don't say...
Why would you think time was slowing the clock down?
The clock measures time but is not time.
When will you realise that relative timing, i.e a clock speed is not relative time?
What is affecting the Caesium rate has nothing to do with time. I consider it is rather stupid to use a clock that the measurement is affected by motion.
'Can you just for once pretend you know nothing? Forget Einstein and everything about science you know.'This sums you up very well. You appeal to ignorance and this statement indicates that the only way that people would accept your 'theories' is if they were completely ignorant of science. Unlike the science that has gone before you just have wild conjecture with absolutely no evidence and muddled thinking. The above statement more than any other shows it to be bullshit.
Quote from: The Spoon on 11/10/2017 12:07:47'Can you just for once pretend you know nothing? Forget Einstein and everything about science you know.'This sums you up very well. You appeal to ignorance and this statement indicates that the only way that people would accept your 'theories' is if they were completely ignorant of science. Unlike the science that has gone before you just have wild conjecture with absolutely no evidence and muddled thinking. The above statement more than any other shows it to be bullshit. Nope, I was trying to open up your minds which will give you the ability to think yourself instead of relying on the recall of memorised information that was taught to you. If you can not allow yourself to surpass the subjective mental block , you will never understand. Understand the education you was subjected too is the same sort of education that gives people notions and belief of 50 virgins awaiting you in heaven.Be objective and understand this... be open minded, I never know anything and know nothing, my mind is always empty for learning.
But we do think for ourselves and we are objective. That is how science works, by taking on board new evidence. The problem is, you have not presented any evidence, just nonsensical 'thought experiments', childish drawings and nonsense about seeing atoms due to the reflection off a boot.
Quote from: The Spoon on 11/10/2017 13:18:00But we do think for ourselves and we are objective. That is how science works, by taking on board new evidence. The problem is, you have not presented any evidence, just nonsensical 'thought experiments', childish drawings and nonsense about seeing atoms due to the reflection off a boot. Tell yea what, I will talk to you as if one of me mucker's and be quite blunt. You are not being objective, you are not looking at the new evidence, your just not thinking . Seriously dude I know from talking with you that you are not some thick idiot. My chit drawings as you put it that are Dirac child like, are very good drawings dude, its just you can't see it. Now lad if they was to come me visit me or I visit you and we sat down at a table with a few bevies or a brew, well lad then by my hand gesters alone you would understand. Posts do not show emotional response or hand gesters etc. I could show you in ten minutes flat if I was there with you buddy.
Quote from: Thebox on 11/10/2017 13:44:07Quote from: The Spoon on 11/10/2017 13:18:00But we do think for ourselves and we are objective. That is how science works, by taking on board new evidence. The problem is, you have not presented any evidence, just nonsensical 'thought experiments', childish drawings and nonsense about seeing atoms due to the reflection off a boot. Tell yea what, I will talk to you as if one of me mucker's and be quite blunt. You are not being objective, you are not looking at the new evidence, your just not thinking . Seriously dude I know from talking with you that you are not some thick idiot. My chit drawings as you put it that are Dirac child like, are very good drawings dude, its just you can't see it. Now lad if they was to come me visit me or I visit you and we sat down at a table with a few bevies or a brew, well lad then by my hand gesters alone you would understand. Posts do not show emotional response or hand gesters etc. I could show you in ten minutes flat if I was there with you buddy. So instead of doing a parody of a German accent you are typing in a parody of a Northern accent? It just makes you look more ridiculous than you already are. You talk about new evidence. You have not provided any evidence full stop.
Quote from: The Spoon on 11/10/2017 13:47:55Quote from: Thebox on 11/10/2017 13:44:07Quote from: The Spoon on 11/10/2017 13:18:00But we do think for ourselves and we are objective. That is how science works, by taking on board new evidence. The problem is, you have not presented any evidence, just nonsensical 'thought experiments', childish drawings and nonsense about seeing atoms due to the reflection off a boot. Tell yea what, I will talk to you as if one of me mucker's and be quite blunt. You are not being objective, you are not looking at the new evidence, your just not thinking . Seriously dude I know from talking with you that you are not some thick idiot. My chit drawings as you put it that are Dirac child like, are very good drawings dude, its just you can't see it. Now lad if they was to come me visit me or I visit you and we sat down at a table with a few bevies or a brew, well lad then by my hand gesters alone you would understand. Posts do not show emotional response or hand gesters etc. I could show you in ten minutes flat if I was there with you buddy. So instead of doing a parody of a German accent you are typing in a parody of a Northern accent? It just makes you look more ridiculous than you already are. You talk about new evidence. You have not provided any evidence full stop. We have something in life called logic, if the logic does not work then it is not logical. The evidence is logic my friend and a few simple axioms. p.s I am from the midlands matey , I am up North relative to the South.
Quote from: Thebox on 11/10/2017 14:15:05Quote from: The Spoon on 11/10/2017 13:47:55Quote from: Thebox on 11/10/2017 13:44:07Quote from: The Spoon on 11/10/2017 13:18:00But we do think for ourselves and we are objective. That is how science works, by taking on board new evidence. The problem is, you have not presented any evidence, just nonsensical 'thought experiments', childish drawings and nonsense about seeing atoms due to the reflection off a boot. Tell yea what, I will talk to you as if one of me mucker's and be quite blunt. You are not being objective, you are not looking at the new evidence, your just not thinking . Seriously dude I know from talking with you that you are not some thick idiot. My chit drawings as you put it that are Dirac child like, are very good drawings dude, its just you can't see it. Now lad if they was to come me visit me or I visit you and we sat down at a table with a few bevies or a brew, well lad then by my hand gesters alone you would understand. Posts do not show emotional response or hand gesters etc. I could show you in ten minutes flat if I was there with you buddy. So instead of doing a parody of a German accent you are typing in a parody of a Northern accent? It just makes you look more ridiculous than you already are. You talk about new evidence. You have not provided any evidence full stop. We have something in life called logic, if the logic does not work then it is not logical. The evidence is logic my friend and a few simple axioms. p.s I am from the midlands matey , I am up North relative to the South. Logic is not evidence. Your axioms are things you made up and call axioms because you do not want them examinaed. They are 'just so' stories. I am from the Midlands. We do not call people lad. That is a parody of a Yorkshire accent. You are a liar.
Still waiting for:(1) A mechanism that affects all processes that causes them all to "seem" to experience time dilation without actually experiencing it.(2) An explanation of why Einstein's mathematical predictions were correct if time dilation does not in fact occur.
Quote from: Kryptid on 11/10/2017 16:46:44Still waiting for:(1) A mechanism that affects all processes that causes them all to "seem" to experience time dilation without actually experiencing it.(2) An explanation of why Einstein's mathematical predictions were correct if time dilation does not in fact occur.1)poor logic is the mechanism2) maths is made to fit
Quote from: Thebox on 11/10/2017 17:20:56Quote from: Kryptid on 11/10/2017 16:46:44Still waiting for:(1) A mechanism that affects all processes that causes them all to "seem" to experience time dilation without actually experiencing it.(2) An explanation of why Einstein's mathematical predictions were correct if time dilation does not in fact occur.1)poor logic is the mechanism2) maths is made to fitNope. hat is more like the response of a sulky child. Pathetic.