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Re: The DOGMA of science........
« Reply #180 on: 13/12/2018 17:43:20 »
"And the annual dues are reasonable, too! In fact, you aren’t allowed to leave the ISU, let alone get rejected. "

kind of like Scientology.
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Re: The DOGMA of science........
« Reply #181 on: 13/12/2018 17:46:45 »
Yes, kind of, except you can keep your savings account.
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Re: The DOGMA of science........
« Reply #182 on: 13/12/2018 17:48:35 »
and your family can talk to you, even if you are no longer a believer.
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Re: The DOGMA of science........
« Reply #183 on: 13/12/2018 17:51:20 »
Quote from: Bogie_smiles on 13/12/2018 17:46:45
Yes, kind of, except you can keep your savings account.

I am thankful for that policy  ;)
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Re: The DOGMA of science........
« Reply #184 on: 13/12/2018 17:52:02 »
Quote from: jimbobghost on 13/12/2018 17:48:35
and your family can talk to you, even if you are no longer a believer.
No, you have to give up your kids, and you must sign a “believer” document. No wait, that clause didn’t pass yet; we’ll try it again later. Pay attention or you lose your inalienable rights, lol.
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Re: The DOGMA of science........
« Reply #185 on: 13/12/2018 17:53:38 »
as long as the contract is less than a billion years, sign me up.
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Re: The DOGMA of science........
« Reply #186 on: 13/12/2018 17:56:03 »
Quote from: jimbobghost on 13/12/2018 17:53:38
as long as the contract is less than a billion years, sign me up.

hahahah
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Re: The DOGMA of science........
« Reply #187 on: 13/12/2018 18:11:37 »
Quote from: jimbobghost on 13/12/2018 17:53:38
as long as the contract is less than a billion years, sign me up.
There is a saying in the ISU:

Anything finite In the ISU is almost nothing, almost nowhere, almost never, relative to the Infinite!
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Re: The DOGMA of science........
« Reply #188 on: 13/12/2018 18:27:34 »
Quote from: Bogie_smiles on 13/12/2018 18:11:37
Quote from: jimbobghost on 13/12/2018 17:53:38
as long as the contract is less than a billion years, sign me up.
There is a saying in the ISU:

Anything finite In the ISU is almost nothing, almost nowhere, almost never, relative to the Infinite!

Very true, relative to infinity, finite is almost negligible :)
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Re: The DOGMA of science........
« Reply #189 on: 13/12/2018 18:50:51 »
what is frightening, is that Bogie's theories are starting to make sense to me !

I am almost ready to give up on Scientology, and sign up with ISU.

(but first, I think i'll have another drink, whilst I contemplate my navel.)
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Re: The DOGMA of science........
« Reply #190 on: 13/12/2018 19:22:02 »
I agree, a little "centered" thinking is always advisable. And sober thinking is right up there with it, lol..
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Re: The DOGMA of science........
« Reply #191 on: 13/12/2018 19:28:20 »
I find I do my best thinking after a few martinis (shaken, not stirred; it bruises the gin).

my only problem is that in the future, I tend to forget my rationale; which is only regained by bringing the alcohol level in my blood back to the level achieved whilst making my breakthroughs in creative thought.
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Re: The DOGMA of science........
« Reply #192 on: 13/12/2018 19:40:53 »
That's what freewill is all about. It does work good, when exercised along with personal responsibility, i.e., avoid drunk driving and all of the associated responsible suggestions, for best results ...
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Re: The DOGMA of science........
« Reply #193 on: 13/12/2018 19:59:00 »
wise council, as always from you Bogie.

I am pleased to report that I have never received a DUI, nor been arrested for any drinking offense.

I enjoy drinking alone...allows more for me, eliminates the annoyance of companions constantly talking to me (especially those of the female persuasion); and especially gives me more time to read your contributions to TNS.
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Re: The DOGMA of science........
« Reply #194 on: 13/12/2018 20:09:21 »
It is getting pretty deep now, @jimbobghost :) . One thing you surely have right though, is that ISU talk will spare you from being constantly pestered by those of the female persuasion. When I read it to my cat, she turns on her back and sticks all four feet into the air. I interpret that to her playing dead.
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Re: The DOGMA of science........
« Reply #195 on: 13/12/2018 20:17:58 »
Quote from: Bogie_smiles on 13/12/2018 01:35:13
You've been Googling again, lol.

Not googled - some words absolutely shouldn't be if you don't want the wrong kind of pictures to appear in the results, but the result of my not doing proper research is that I don't know where the different spellings of what sounds like the same word come from. I just happen to know about бог due to a little bit of time spent studying Russian, plus something I heard on the subject from a well known TV lexicographer which confirmed the connection.
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Re: The DOGMA of science........
« Reply #196 on: 13/12/2018 20:31:40 »
Quote from: David Cooper on 13/12/2018 20:17:58


Not googled - some words absolutely shouldn't be if you don't want the wrong kind of pictures to appear in the results, but the result of my not doing proper research is that I don't know where the different spellings of what sounds like the same word come from. I just happen to know about бог due to a little bit of time spent studying Russian, plus something I heard on the subject from a well known TV lexicographer which confirmed the connection.
Are you saying you don’t have your own personal lexicographer? Oh well, who does, I guess, lol.


You do have pretty detailed scenarios related to absolute time and space. I wonder what the list of absolutes includes, i.e., time, space, the speed of light in vacua, and I suppose many absolute values like that. Can you give me a little insight into to the path you followed that guides to adopt absolute time and space?

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Re: The DOGMA of science........
« Reply #197 on: 13/12/2018 21:23:23 »
" When I read it to my cat, she turns on here back and sticks all four feet into the air. I interpret that to her playing dead."

altho i do not own a cat, i have endured the association of human women, who are known to exibit a similar tendency.

usually, i found this manuver in human females to mean either "rub my belly" or "get off me and leave me alone"

in either event, i have found it advisable to simply go to bed, and make no further effort in interpreting the intentions of any of the feline pursuasion.

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« Reply #198 on: 14/12/2018 01:40:02 »
Applies to both @David Cooper @Bogie_smiles
Advice On Absolutes, a poem




Life is a learning institute
Where no class bells will chime
But not one fact brings no dispute
And certainly not time.


Some will say time is absolute
Just like they’ll say of space.
But then surely some will refute   
Theres Absolutes in place.


So stand your line, and don’t stay mute,
Or make apology.
Stand up for things beyond refute,
In your cosmology :)
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Re: The DOGMA of science........
« Reply #199 on: 14/12/2018 03:15:25 »
sorry Bogie,

I must for once disagree.

there comes a time to lay down the sword (or your principles), when you come to the conclusion you are dealing with either those unworthy of combat, or those unable to reasonably dispute your values.
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