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New Theories / Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 29/01/2009 22:43:31 »
I did not intend to make my success in curing POIS come across easy since
It definetly was not easy.
There was alot of ups and downs since experiencing the first small signs
of POIS, hormone+neuro chemical imbalance and adrenal fatigue in my
late teens. At 21 during a trip to New York that is when I knew something
was seriously wrong.After an orgasm in the NY hotel the next morning
I woke up with flu+cold like symptoms along with headaches, brain fog,
inflammation all over the face, body and also felt exhausted for no reason
and could not go out that day to explore NY but had to sleep in extra
hours to recover somewhat in the NY hotel.
Why did I go from training twice a day in boxing and competing
in amateur matches and having great energy and drive for life as well
as very high libido to ....
someone who felt completely exhausted day and night, feeling dead after
every orgasm for up to 2 weeks at its worst, to having panic attacks
when the house phone rang or being too scared to answer the door.
I tried my local gp/drs and I asked each time for a new doc since
some thought it was all in my head,
one felt pity for me and asked me why I could be so stupid,
blamed it on multi vitamin and other supplements
and said if i stopped them for 6 months everything would go back as normal.
Finally one doc was good enough to refer me to an Urologist and then
later on an Endocrinologist. I got papped with Ibrobufen for the migraines
and was told to come back after 3 months.
I eventually got a few hormones checked but I had
printed out many pages of studies and data on what hormones
should be tested for and why.
The Docs spent 20secs to look at it and then put it down.
One said, there was no need to test Estradiol because it was a female
hormone.
I didnt know at that time so i just took his word for it.
After doing my own research I know that if E2 is slightly high
or low, it causes many problems with libibo as confirmed
by Dr Mariano. I believe I made a post a few months back on
this.
They didnt even bother to test Free/Bio test, Dht, Cortisol, Free T3 Thyroid
and many others and simply saying these hormones did not need to be
checked and that I was within range for SHBG, total Test, Dhea & Prolactin.
So again, I took their words for it but after finding out , my SHBG was way too low,
total test was low, dhea was low and Prolactin was a few points from the top
of the range.I found out that high prolactin could be related to
tumors and pituitary damage and went to have furthur tests done for
prolactin while on POIS and they all came back 2-3x higher than the first test
through the doc when not in POIS.
Luckily no brain tumor or abnormalities were present.
I also had many experiences with Chinese herbal drs where they blamed
it on the false liver fire and that me being too Yang(heat) and not enough
Yin fluids(Cold) present and that was causing the inflammation and headaches.
Also that my adrenals were depleted and had to take their Adrenal
tonics to repair them.
I probably spent over 3 thousand pounds(5000usd roughly)on herbal
treatments. It did help but did no where near curing.
Since I had lost touch with my social life it meant I did not
see my friends anymore and that throughout this period I just stayed
in the house everyday unless I had to go out.
I had not one single
soul to talk to about this and even if I did that person would
not have a bloody clue and I would not want to put all this negative
energy towards them.
The above is a very short version and I usually prefer to keep the sentimental
side to myself but maybe people on this board can relate to this than to hormone chat.
Anyways my previous situation with POIS is not that bad compared
to others who have had it for 10,20 or 30 years.
I have a friend who I have never met who is nearly twice my age
(Although i'm sure he wouldnt like me saying that![Smiley :)](https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
who has had Chronic fatigue syndrome
for 12 plus years.
He could not climb a flight of stairs without suffering for the
rest of the day.
Now he is doing really well with Osteopathic
and other treatments.He has opened his own clinic
to treat other people with similar symptoms.
The folks on the Anabolic minds and mesomorphosis forums
had really helped me out alot even if they did not know.
Dr Mariano
also posts there and I use to take alot of my time to read his posts.
http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/members/marianco.html
I was the impatient type and wanted to be cured quickly
and often tried to do too much all at once.
I found out from good and bad experiences and from mistakes,
it is best to fully research and understand what is going on in your
body before even supplementing, especially if it is hormones.
Use the results from your own
data and research scientific studies and ask others who have
had the same problems and have improved their health.
Keep monitoring your levels and adjust accordlingly and also go by
symptoms as well.
The more tests you can get done the quicker you can find out what
is wrong and the quicker you can be treated which will enable
you to feel better sooner than later.
Your welcome Girlwind Iam just going from my experience.
Michael
P.S http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/community/
is a very informative forum dealing with Adrenal fatigue and
Hypothyroidism related problems.(It has been closed to post
but you can still read)
It definetly was not easy.
There was alot of ups and downs since experiencing the first small signs
of POIS, hormone+neuro chemical imbalance and adrenal fatigue in my
late teens. At 21 during a trip to New York that is when I knew something
was seriously wrong.After an orgasm in the NY hotel the next morning
I woke up with flu+cold like symptoms along with headaches, brain fog,
inflammation all over the face, body and also felt exhausted for no reason
and could not go out that day to explore NY but had to sleep in extra
hours to recover somewhat in the NY hotel.
Why did I go from training twice a day in boxing and competing
in amateur matches and having great energy and drive for life as well
as very high libido to ....
someone who felt completely exhausted day and night, feeling dead after
every orgasm for up to 2 weeks at its worst, to having panic attacks
when the house phone rang or being too scared to answer the door.
I tried my local gp/drs and I asked each time for a new doc since
some thought it was all in my head,
one felt pity for me and asked me why I could be so stupid,
blamed it on multi vitamin and other supplements
and said if i stopped them for 6 months everything would go back as normal.
Finally one doc was good enough to refer me to an Urologist and then
later on an Endocrinologist. I got papped with Ibrobufen for the migraines
and was told to come back after 3 months.
I eventually got a few hormones checked but I had
printed out many pages of studies and data on what hormones
should be tested for and why.
The Docs spent 20secs to look at it and then put it down.
One said, there was no need to test Estradiol because it was a female
hormone.
I didnt know at that time so i just took his word for it.
After doing my own research I know that if E2 is slightly high
or low, it causes many problems with libibo as confirmed
by Dr Mariano. I believe I made a post a few months back on
this.
They didnt even bother to test Free/Bio test, Dht, Cortisol, Free T3 Thyroid
and many others and simply saying these hormones did not need to be
checked and that I was within range for SHBG, total Test, Dhea & Prolactin.
So again, I took their words for it but after finding out , my SHBG was way too low,
total test was low, dhea was low and Prolactin was a few points from the top
of the range.I found out that high prolactin could be related to
tumors and pituitary damage and went to have furthur tests done for
prolactin while on POIS and they all came back 2-3x higher than the first test
through the doc when not in POIS.
Luckily no brain tumor or abnormalities were present.
I also had many experiences with Chinese herbal drs where they blamed
it on the false liver fire and that me being too Yang(heat) and not enough
Yin fluids(Cold) present and that was causing the inflammation and headaches.
Also that my adrenals were depleted and had to take their Adrenal
tonics to repair them.
I probably spent over 3 thousand pounds(5000usd roughly)on herbal
treatments. It did help but did no where near curing.
Since I had lost touch with my social life it meant I did not
see my friends anymore and that throughout this period I just stayed
in the house everyday unless I had to go out.
I had not one single
soul to talk to about this and even if I did that person would
not have a bloody clue and I would not want to put all this negative
energy towards them.
The above is a very short version and I usually prefer to keep the sentimental
side to myself but maybe people on this board can relate to this than to hormone chat.
Anyways my previous situation with POIS is not that bad compared
to others who have had it for 10,20 or 30 years.
I have a friend who I have never met who is nearly twice my age
(Although i'm sure he wouldnt like me saying that
![Smiley :)](https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
who has had Chronic fatigue syndrome
for 12 plus years.
He could not climb a flight of stairs without suffering for the
rest of the day.
Now he is doing really well with Osteopathic
and other treatments.He has opened his own clinic
to treat other people with similar symptoms.
The folks on the Anabolic minds and mesomorphosis forums
had really helped me out alot even if they did not know.
Dr Mariano
also posts there and I use to take alot of my time to read his posts.
http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/members/marianco.html
I was the impatient type and wanted to be cured quickly
and often tried to do too much all at once.
I found out from good and bad experiences and from mistakes,
it is best to fully research and understand what is going on in your
body before even supplementing, especially if it is hormones.
Use the results from your own
data and research scientific studies and ask others who have
had the same problems and have improved their health.
Keep monitoring your levels and adjust accordlingly and also go by
symptoms as well.
The more tests you can get done the quicker you can find out what
is wrong and the quicker you can be treated which will enable
you to feel better sooner than later.
Your welcome Girlwind Iam just going from my experience.
Michael
P.S http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/community/
is a very informative forum dealing with Adrenal fatigue and
Hypothyroidism related problems.(It has been closed to post
but you can still read)