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Re: Perpetual motion Device...
« Reply #120 on: 01/07/2006 16:57:05 »
The ferro fluid is going to go everywhere, it will coat the ball and be transfered to places you dont want it lowering the level more and more in the part where the ball needs to rise and jump out.

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Re: Perpetual motion Device...
« Reply #121 on: 02/07/2006 03:58:17 »
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The ferro fluid is going to go everywhere, it will coat the ball and be transfered to places you dont want it lowering the level more and more in the part where the ball needs to rise and jump out.


Like I said, I'm not even gonna bother explaining it further if your not going to even bother to listen.  Latest discussion on the ferro fluid design doesn't have a ball, not one.
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Re: Perpetual motion Device...
« Reply #122 on: 02/07/2006 04:30:01 »
how can you get the fluid to move through a magnetic shield?
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« Reply #123 on: 03/07/2006 00:25:51 »
It's a matter of path of least resistance.  The magnet is strong enough to create a horizontal surface.  Since the magnet is strong enough to do this than it will do this.  If by the magnet doing this cause the main tube to become overfull then a little bit will spill at the top (where the magnet has no influence because the the magnetic shield) and run down the spillway.  Once the spillage gets to the bottom of the spillway it enters the range of the magnet and gets pulled in.  Once it gets pulled in the magnet will create the horizontal surface once again because it has the strength to.  However this will cause the tube to become over full.  The only way for the main tube not to become over full is if the spillage doesn't enter the horizontal surface.  But the stongest point of a magnet is its poles and with the pole pulling the spillage in then the path of least resistance is up the tube since the magnetic pull pulling the fluid down (below the shield) is weaker than the magnetic pull pulling in the spillage.  Path of least resistance.
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Re: Perpetual motion Device...
« Reply #124 on: 03/07/2006 15:09:26 »
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how can you get the fluid to move through a magnetic shield?


The shield is on the outside of the tube.
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Re: Perpetual motion Device...
« Reply #125 on: 14/08/2006 23:20:47 »
PerpetualMotion.

Icannot believe you are thinking about using buoyancy for P/M.

Ihave been knocking down doors everywhere trying to be heard.

I have been developing this theory for ayear HARD.And no-one willagree (or disagree)

Ihope to post my theory soon on this site. I could use some help as well. i think we can solve this thing. Perhaps we have.
Soon come !  
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Re: Perpetual motion Device...
« Reply #126 on: 15/08/2006 07:53:29 »
How come so many people who post on this board seem to have english as a second language?

But yeh, im realyl glad that people here, like precourser, have taken my idea so far!
Its really fascinating...i cannot think of a flaw yet...
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Re: Perpetual motion Device...
« Reply #127 on: 16/08/2006 03:10:54 »
Reasons Magnetic Perpetual Motion won't work

1) Magnets are non-linear
2) Friction loss
3) Magnets are polar so each attraction has an opposite repulsion
4) Magnetism is a field not energy.
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Re: Perpetual motion Device...
« Reply #128 on: 10/10/2006 22:06:11 »
Greatings to all belivers of perpetual motion.
I'm glad that i'm not the only and lonly crazy man whoo *thinks*
that PMotion *thing* can be Solved and worked on it,>> in this *late*  21st-century....

Go a head Gyes the univers work like that. no gass, no oil, no air.
P.S im i newbee, and i will stick to this FAQ.

Kosova
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Re: Perpetual motion Device...
« Reply #129 on: 21/10/2006 15:40:49 »
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And if anybody wishes to prove that perpetual motion is possible then i suggest you attempt to build a working device, good luck


Michael



It depends on how you define "perpetual". If we can agree for the purpose of these inventions, that "perpetual" means "for a long long period of time" as opposed to "until the end of Time", then it's easy to build a Perpetual Motion Machine.
I built one about 18 months ago, using a rope and a sealed plastic bottle. I put the bottle into the sea, using the rope to tie to a pier.  Due to the force of the waves, the bottle has been moving constantly for 18 months now.  It will stop moving when the rope rots, or when the moon's gravitational pull stops affecting the sea, but that won't be for a long time yet.



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Re: Perpetual motion Device...
« Reply #130 on: 21/10/2006 17:01:05 »
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quote:
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And if anybody wishes to prove that perpetual motion is possible then i suggest you attempt to build a working device, good luck


Michael



It depends on how you define "perpetual". If we can agree for the purpose of these inventions, that "perpetual" means "for a long long period of time" as opposed to "until the end of Time", then it's easy to build a Perpetual Motion Machine.
I built one about 18 months ago, using a rope and a sealed plastic bottle. I put the bottle into the sea, using the rope to tie to a pier.  Due to the force of the waves, the bottle has been moving constantly for 18 months now.  It will stop moving when the rope rots, or when the moon's gravitational pull stops affecting the sea, but that won't be for a long time yet.





:) Very clever and welcome to the forum


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Re: Perpetual motion Device...
« Reply #131 on: 27/10/2006 01:46:58 »
perhaps if you have something like a tube, like this:
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if the magnetic ball at the top rolled around, then was attracted to the south pole of the magnet, and then with the combined momentum and repulsion of the north magnet pole, it could make it back up the hill to start the cycle all over again.

comments, criticisms?

* perpetual motion.jpg (15.43 kB, 336x341 - viewed 1293 times.)
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Re: Perpetual motion Device...
« Reply #132 on: 08/01/2013 22:08:36 »
Have you tried this and has it worked?
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Re: Perpetual motion Device...
« Reply #133 on: 16/01/2013 15:46:09 »
Quote from: ukmicky on 20/06/2006 21:56:38
Draw it and we will tell you why it wont work

Michael

Michael can you draw me a picture of an electron, a proton, or the Higgs field or model me an atom everybody can agree on?

thanks

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Re: Perpetual motion Device...
« Reply #134 on: 16/01/2013 15:54:27 »
Quote from: science_guy on 27/10/2006 01:46:58
perhaps if you have something like a tube, like this:
 [ Invalid Attachment ]
if the magnetic ball at the top rolled around, then was attracted to the south pole of the magnet, and then with the combined momentum and repulsion of the north magnet pole, it could make it back up the hill to start the cycle all over again.

comments, criticisms?

Most science nerds discount the wisdom of the elders.
The science ego today I find is 'sick in the head', the RIGHT Brain has atrophied IMHO.
Newton and Einstein used both sides of their mind, that is what made them special and set them apart.

IMHO the myth of SiSyphuS (the spelling is a clue too) is a myth dealing with GRAVITY and it clearly is an analogy for what befuddles the science only brain today.
 
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In Greek mythology Sisyphus was a king of Ephyra (now known as Corinth) punished by being compelled to roll an immense boulder up a hill, only to watch it roll back down, and to repeat this action forever.

Will this give you any idEAs that you can apply to your modEL?

Now here is another idea >>> put these terms in your browser and follow it to the youtube video:

Amazing Discovery With Magnets patented in 2012

namaste
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