[Bored chemist]

"It is the only suitable pump which is able to pump fluid and gas simultaneously."
But gases are fluids, so that makes no sense.
There are pumps that can deal with mixtures of solids, liquids and gases.

Incidentally, fridges pump gases so the point would be moot anyway. The high pressure gas is subsequently condensed to a liquid.
"Do you think there is nothing out there, if you don’t see it in your newspaper?"
I see, in my newspaper (and elsewhere) that there are institutions whose role is to ensure that knowledge is not lost.
But you don't see them.
Why not?

[Wolfhart Willimczik (OP)]

"It is the only suitable pump which is able to pump fluid and gas simultaneously."
But gases are fluids, so that makes no sense.

Indeed your statement make no sense.
Are you mocking me?

There are pumps that can deal with mixtures of solids, liquids and gases.

all not suitable for cooling; otherwise show me one.
Why are everywhere still used compressors - not fluid pumps?

Incidentally, fridges pump gases so the point would be moot anyway. The high pressure gas is subsequently condensed to a liquid.

and changes again in a gas by expanding and cooling down, then is compressed again etc.

"Do you think there is nothing out there, if you don’t see it in your newspaper?"
I see, in my newspaper (and elsewhere) that there are institutions whose role is to ensure that knowledge is not lost.

show me the things I showed you here in this intitutions and you win.
If there is all we need - why are you here reading and writing?

[Bored chemist]

Gases can flow, so they are fluids.
So , what you have said is that "It is the only suitable pump which is able to pump fluid and fluid simultaneously."
That makes no sense.

The compressor in a fridge only contains gas (apart from a little lubricating oil).
It takes in low pressure gas and gives out high pressure gas.
The compressors do that job very well and with fairly good efficiency.
Why would you consider using a pump that can handle solid material suspended in a liquid when you know it will only deal with a gas?
The idea is silly.


"show me the things I showed you here in this intitutions and you win."
No problem. One of the institutions which exists to ensure the survival of data is the Naked science web site.

[Wolfhart Willimczik (OP)]

Yes, there are some things that I regret having lost in life like the original soft-copy of my thesis.  But, many things have been passed up due to just becoming obsolete. 

There are, of course DOS windows in all versions of Windows, but not with perfect compatibility.

But, I'd say at this point, it is time to just try something new.  There are many new translators including a few generally good online ones.

http://babblefish.com/language/free-language-translation/free-language-translators/ [nofollow]
http://translate.google.com/ [nofollow]

And, of course, there are also many commercial packages.

I searched everywhere there is nothing any more like witchpen, which has nothing to do with spell checking or translation you know.
You can write sentences in your own or another language or mixed up and the program make it automatically right. You write word for word and the program lets you write as long you know it, if not you can write it in your first language and the word comes automatically in the other one. But this is only the start. This program is learning with you as you learn the other language.
After so many years I would be able to write my book in english today.
There is nothing out there any more even close to this. It is a shame that nobody feels responsible to save the good things.
I have it in Window XP, but there is no real DOS any more. With some tricks I could run witchpen, but many functions are different or not there any more. A software specialist could make a lot of money if he make it running...I have all the disks.
But this all is not the point. The point is to save everything.
Why are you against it to save witchpen?
I must be out of this world if I am the only one who wants to save such things.
No state will do anything as long nobody wants it – or only 1 of 300 000 000.

Now to the selection process: the bored chemist showed clearly why it is never possible.
Only because he don’t know that a gas is compressible and a fluid not he would never save this prototype – same with the other sample. I know man. Most man with power judge out of a lack of knowledge not by knowledge.
If the selection process never work what do you propose to save for later?

[Bored chemist]

"Why are you against it to save witchpen?"
I'm not.
I just don't believe it exists.
However there is an enormous demand for good translation so, if it works it would be easy to get some IT specialist to update it for new versions of windows.

If you can show that it's a tenth as good as you say it is then someone would be happy to sort out a license for using it.

Now , because you don't have a good translator it's not clear what you mean by "Only because he don’t know that a gas is compressible and a fluid not he would never save this prototype – same with the other sample."

But, lets be clear.
All materials are compressible.
Gases are much more compressible then liquids or solids.
The only material which gets compressed in a fridge is a gas.

There are pumps which can deal with mixtures of liquids, solids and gases - your gut is one of them- but there is no reason to use any pump like that in a fridge because the only thing which needs pumping is a gas.

[Wolfhart Willimczik (OP)]

"Why are you against it to save witchpen?"
I'm not. I just don't believe it exists.

and due to your believe, what is based on a lack of knowledge, you would decide not to save it for the future if you would be one making the selecting process.
This shows exactly my point - we have to save everything what somebody want to save.
You did not even pot this word in Google, because you would has find for instance:

"Witchpen und "Witchpen mal 5" waren intelligente, sehr frühe PC Applikationen für MS-DOS von Hannes Keller, ("Hannes Keller Witch Systems Inc"), dem Schweizer Computerpionier. Seine Programme gehörten zu den ersten mit automatischer Rechtschreibekorrektur und WYSIWYG. "Witchpen" war ab Februar 1983 und "Witchpen mal 5" ab 1988 erhältli...
Gefunden auf http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witchpen [nofollow]"
Not even wikipedia could suppress it.
There are over 700 results, but no program any more available.
1.   Witchpen – Wikipedia
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5.   Sendungsarchiv - Folge 101 vom 24.03.2008 - ComputerClub 2
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But, lets get clear: if you don't believe me a word, why are you still writing here?

But, lets be clear.
All materials are compressible.

We are not in a physics forum discussing effects of higher orders.
Are you mocking me again?
In technical terms liquids are used in every hydraulic, because they are not compressible.
But lets drop it you will never understand what is going on in your refrigerator.

[Bored chemist]

Are you sure you don't mean "let's drop it because you are right. The compressor in a fridge just compresses a gas"?

If there was a good translation program I'd want it not just "saved" but widely used.
However, if there was such a program, how well would it compete with Bing's or Google's translator?
Would it now be redundant?

[Wolfhart Willimczik (OP)]

If there was a good translation program I'd want it not just "saved" but widely used.
However, if there was such a program, how well would it compete with Bing's or Google's translator?
Would it now be redundant?

I see you will never grasp what I said. You are an american - you don't need a translation program.
witchpen is not a simple translation program like everywhere for dummies; it is a writing program for scientists, writers etc in another language what stays and learns with the writer his entire live...It adapts to the writer...you will never grasp it. It is getting better after every use. After a few years one could write in another language like it is your own.
I remember as I came to America and could not speak english I could immediately make phone calls, conversations with this program etc.
This program was not made by a language professor or software engineer, but by a physicist!
This should tell you something. (But probably not.)
It is nothing for you.
Do you know what any translation program is making? Nonsense! If not it would be easy to publish my book in US.
Fact is we loose permanent things of real value and nobody cares.

I could bring endless samples, but even this is total useless.

[Bored chemist]

"I see you will never grasp what I said."
not without a better explanation.
 "You are an american - you don't need a translation program"
Wrong on both counts. I'm English and I use translators a fair bit. I can just about manage technical French- but for anything else- like that Wiki page you cited, I use a translator.
And, if it could do what you say, how come it wasn't publicised?
You say it let you have conversations when you visited the States.
If I had been a shopkeeper and had seen a "box" that could do that, I would have 'phoned the local papers to tell them about it. I still would.

Do you see why I have doubts that this thing could do what you say?

[Wolfhart Willimczik (OP)]

And, if it could do what you say, how come it wasn't publicised?

It was a sensation in newspapers and won the highest possible price and was forgotten few years later.
That is the reality.

Do you see why I have doubts that this thing could do what you say?

That is the difference between us, you have doubts, lack of knowledge and you are counter productive, I have knowledge and try to do something good.

[Bored chemist]

Newspapers keep archives.
(this is, of course, an example of the knowledge which you claim I don't have, but you claim you do have- in which case, perhaps you can explain why you haven't realised this?).

[Wolfhart Willimczik (OP)]

Newspapers keep archives.

If it is not on the market it is lost!

[cheryl j]

If civilization collapses tomorrow the big problem will more likely be that none of us really knows how to feed, clothe or shelter ourselves anymore, and will be almost as helpless as children.

[Wolfhart Willimczik (OP)]

If civilization collapses tomorrow the big problem will more likely be that none of us really knows how to feed, clothe or shelter ourselves anymore, and will be almost as helpless as children.

This is a good point. We have already forgotten the most simple things. I tried it by myself ones to survive outside for a while without anything civilization provided. I could not catch a single fish with my hands and was going on the end again in a store to buy food. I studied nuclear physics but on the end I had to admit that nobody did teach me something useful. The first knowledge of earliest mankind should be collected - if still possible - and saved also.
The Egyptians build pyramids to remember them. We should build a pyramid of knowledge...

[Bored chemist]

Newspapers keep archives.

If it is not on the market it is lost!

If that is true then the answer to the question "Why is there no institution on earth preventing loss of scientific knowledge? " is obvious- the market doesn't care about everything- only profitable things.
On the other hand if you accept that information can be stored elsewhere- rather than in the shops- then the question is absurd.
There are many such institutions. Newspaper articles and archives, this website and others like it; the patent offices; schools, universities and even TV quiz shows.

Incidentally, re "This is a good point. We have already forgotten the most simple things."
Some of us in the rich first world may have forgotten but many, if not most, of the people on earth remember how to get their own food and clothing because it's what they do every day.

[Wolfhart Willimczik (OP)]

Newspapers keep archives.

If it is not on the market it is lost!

If that is true then the answer to the question "Why is there no institution on earth preventing loss of scientific knowledge? " is obvious- the market doesn't care about everything- only profitable things.

There are many such institutions. Newspaper articles and archives, this website and others like it; the patent offices; schools, universities and even TV quiz shows.

And where do you store this pump - in which uni or in which TV quiz show?

 

All corporations was forbidden to build any new things I invented. One corporation manufactured against this ban and was destroyed. There is nothing left from this pump. The SSD erased it completely.

This is all what is left of this revolutionary pump

[Bored chemist]

Oh come on!
What I wrote was "There are many such institutions. Newspaper articles and archives, this website and others like it; the patent offices; schools, universities and even TV quiz shows."
You can do better than that.

[Wolfhart Willimczik (OP)]

Oh come on!
What I wrote was "There are many such institutions. Newspaper articles and archives, this website and others like it; the patent offices; schools, universities and even TV quiz shows."
You can do better than that.

I can, but it seems nobody else.

[Bored chemist]

Did you patent it?

[Wolfhart Willimczik (OP)]

Did you patent it?

What do you think?
I did not only patent it, I gave it to the Fraunhofer Gesellschaft, the most famous organisation to support inventors, because I was afraid the secret police will be stronger. You may read all details here: (if you have a good translation program)
http://wolfhartindustries.com/a6a2.htm [nofollow]
http://wolfhartindustries.com/a7a.htm [nofollow]

My patent had no effect whatsoever, except it cost money. The organization destroying progress was and is much stronger. How it works you can see on a document from the BLKA (new Gestapo, SSD, Stasi).
Here you have even the name “Wagner” who invented a scientific strategy to destroy scientific information and how to fight against scientists. It seems nobody don’t know that such a strong organization even exist.

"Die Bekämpfung der imperialistischen Ost- und DDR-Forschung und ihrer Einrichtungen in der BRD", Doktorarbeit an der juristischen Hochschule Potsdam von Dr. jur. Hans-Peter Wagner, geb.19.09.1940, Hauptmann des SSD (Staatssicherheitsdienst der ehemaligen "DDR") und Dr. jur. Dietrich Erwin, Major, 18.11.32, JHS, GVS MfS 160 - 50/74 I/II, magna, 31.05.74.

"The fight against the imperialist West and East German research and its facilities in Germany", PhD thesis at the Law University of Potsdam, Dr. jur. Hans-Peter Wagner, geb.19.09.1940, Captain of the SSD (State Security Service of the former "DDR") and Dr. jur. Erwin Dietrich, Major, 18:11:32, JHS, GVS Stasi 160 - 50/74 I / II, magna, 31/05/74.