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Re: Ask me anything.
« Reply #20 on: 25/10/2017 01:53:19 »
Quote from: tkadm30 on 24/10/2017 21:53:31
I assume...

You know what they say about assuming...

Circular reasoning is when two or more premises are used to support each other. Premise A is used as support for premise B and premise B is used as support for premise A. The argument is self-contained without any actual reference to outside evidence. That's why it's a fallacy. The question I asked, "Can you list all of the conspiracy theories you believe in?" isn't circular reasoning because it isn't even an argument, let alone one that I tried to support in any way.

A conspiracy theory is just that, a theory about the existence of a conspiracy. You can consider the phrase "conspiracy theory" to be derogatory if you want to, but that doesn't make it a logical fallacy. If someone asks, "Is your child retarded?", you can be offended by the use of the word "retarded", but that doesn't make their question a logical fallacy (and it isn't).
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Re: Ask me anything.
« Reply #21 on: 25/10/2017 10:54:03 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 25/10/2017 01:53:19
If someone asks, "Is your child retarded?", you can be offended by the use of the word "retarded", but that doesn't make their question a logical fallacy (and it isn't).

A mnemonic is just that. You keep saying the same thing over and over again without knowing what is the meaning
of the term. The "conspiracy theory" mnemonic (neuro-narrative) is meant to negatively influence learning just like the use of the term "retarded" is misleading.

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Re: Ask me anything.
« Reply #22 on: 25/10/2017 15:01:16 »
Quote from: tkadm30 on 25/10/2017 10:54:03
A mnemonic is just that. You keep saying the same thing over and over again without knowing what is the meaning
of the term. The "conspiracy theory" mnemonic (neuro-narrative) is meant to negatively influence learning just like the use of the term "retarded" is misleading.

That has nothing to do with the logical fallacy known as circular reasoning.
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Re: Ask me anything.
« Reply #23 on: 25/10/2017 15:06:13 »
Quote from: tkadm30 on 25/10/2017 10:54:03
A mnemonic is just that. You keep saying the same thing over and over again without knowing what is the meaning
of the term.
No, quite the opposite. Eg, you know what the meaning is of colours of the rainbow, even the details of the physical cause. A mnemonic, as pointed out by bored chemist, helps you remember what order they occur in.
One of the few circular mnemonics I know is the circle of fifths used to remember the sequence of musical key relationships.

You seem to be inventing a completely different usage which doesn’t make any logical connection to the original. Your misusagage is causing confusion.
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« Reply #24 on: 25/10/2017 15:34:06 »
Quote from: Colin2B on 25/10/2017 15:06:13
No, quite the opposite. Eg, you know what the meaning is of colours of the rainbow, even the details of the physical cause. A mnemonic, as pointed out by bored chemist, helps you remember what order they occur in.
One of the few circular mnemonics I know is the circle of fifths used to remember the sequence of musical key relationships.

You seem to be inventing a completely different usage which doesn’t make any logical connection to the original. Your misusagage is causing confusion.

I'm guessing that this is what he is referring to: http://omnithought.org/how-mnemonic-is-used-to-program-control-your-mind/2969
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Re: Ask me anything.
« Reply #25 on: 26/10/2017 14:18:36 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 25/10/2017 15:34:06
I'm guessing that this is what he is referring to: http://omnithought.org/how-mnemonic-is-used-to-program-control-your-mind/2969

It is obvious that mainstream media is full of mnemonics to control our thoughts and repress freethinking. Climate change is just another one. A mnemonic does help to associate a narrative to a memory, but it directs our knowledge towards ignorance and deception.
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« Reply #26 on: 26/10/2017 19:17:50 »
Quote from: tkadm30 on 26/10/2017 14:18:36
It is obvious that mainstream media is full of mnemonics to control our thoughts and repress freethinking

Stop misusing the word mnemonic.
It just makes you look foolish.
You may well have a point about the media, but  your insistence on using the word badly will mean that nobody takes you seriously.

Quote from: tkadm30 on 26/10/2017 14:18:36
A mnemonic does help to associate a narrative to a memory, but it directs our knowledge towards ignorance and deception.
Plainly not true.
What ignorance and deception are we directed to by this
"Late college parties never persuade Samantha's European girls to dispense hospitality, even though you linger"?

How about "fat cows bend in angles"?

Those are real mnemonics and they don't do what you are pretending that mnemonics do.
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Re: Ask me anything.
« Reply #27 on: 28/10/2017 13:57:25 »
List of poorly understood mnemonics in mainstream media:

- "Chemtrails"
- "Conspiracy theory"
- "Climate change"
- "Global warming"
- "Terrorism"
- "Evidence"
- "Health"
- "Programming"
- "Research"
- "Theory"
- "Study"
- "Media"
- "Language"
- "Firmware"
- "School"
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Re: Ask me anything.
« Reply #28 on: 28/10/2017 14:10:30 »
Mnemonics are the intrinsic components of complex neuro-narratives used for "programming" the way we think of something.  ;)
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Re: Ask me anything.
« Reply #29 on: 28/10/2017 15:12:18 »
OK, so we have established that you refuse to stop misusing the word "mnemonic".
That's not very helpful of you.
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