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Why would a photon move @ the speed of light?
« on: 29/09/2018 20:33:27 »
While contemplating a meaning of Einstein's e=mc²
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I question: Why would a photon move @ the speed of light?

Light has both wave and particle properties, when scrutinized.  It implies characteristics of spin are involved.

Photons are the most primitive known particle.

I postulate “photons move @ speed of light, when two polar orientations incorporate spin @ speed of light.”

Electric 1 pole + 1 spin and magnetic 1 pole + 1 spin properties that relate in some form of perpendicular agreement.

A deep thought, since… it also implies (to me) photons that don’t spin at the speed of light, constitute space.
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Re: Why would a photon move @ the speed of light?
« Reply #1 on: 29/09/2018 20:48:43 »
Quote from: JoeBrown on 29/09/2018 20:33:27
I postulate “photons move @ speed of light, when two polar orientations incorporate spin @ speed of light.”

Electric 1 pole + 1 spin and magnetic 1 pole + 1 spin properties that relate in some form of perpendicular agreement.

I don't know what this means.
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Re: Why would a photon move @ the speed of light?
« Reply #2 on: 29/09/2018 21:07:30 »
Trying to condense this theory to the narrowest of terms.   

I believe electric and magnetic properties also relate to spin.

If you spin a marble, like a top, there's a pole perpendicular to the floor if it remains in one place, directly over a South pole located on the bottom.  This I think of as the first spin (possibly/probably) akin to magnetic pole.

Roll the marble on the floor and will have a pole that exists parallel to the floor (akin to electric pole).

If the marble was a photon, it would need both spins @ speed of light to achieve light-speed in a relative straight trajectory.
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Re: Why would a photon move @ the speed of light?
« Reply #3 on: 30/09/2018 14:18:16 »
When light is circularly polarized, it carries spin.
This mechanism was recently used to spin up microscopic spheres to millions of RPM (revolutions per minute) by illuminating them with a circularly-polarized laser.
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spin_angular_momentum_of_light
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=74580.0
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Re: Why would a photon move @ the speed of light?
« Reply #4 on: 30/09/2018 14:26:08 »
Quote from: JoeBrown on 29/09/2018 20:33:27
Why would a photon move @ the speed of light?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell%27s_equations#Vacuum_equations,_electromagnetic_waves_and_speed_of_light
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Re: Why would a photon move @ the speed of light?
« Reply #5 on: 06/10/2018 00:36:16 »
Photons are not the most primitive particle known, they are packets of energy.

As for why

They travel at the speed of light as they are massless, they travel at the speed they do because it is the maxumum speed permissable in space time without disintergration, when things travel faster they are in the process of disintegration. if light travelled faster it would disintegrate to more electromagnetic radiation than existed initially.
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Re: Why would a photon move @ the speed of light?
« Reply #6 on: 06/10/2018 01:32:36 »
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 06/10/2018 00:36:16
when things travel faster...
They don't.
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