[jsaldea12 (OP)]

Was it CMBR or skein of spacetime that was detected.

In 1964, Penzias and Wilson detected  a persistent "noise of microwaves” that came from every direction in outer space, eventually,  that noise was identified  as Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation (CMBR) ?. But was it really CMBR. It could be there is another source, real source  of CMBR. Outer space is not completely nothing, Outer space  is totally  occupied  by elecro-magnetic skein of spacetime, of Dr. Einstein, even occupying the space of the  interior of atoms. Could it be that detected  “microwave noise”, called CMBR, is actually the recording, the making of the all-encompassing electro-magnetic skein/frame of spacetime that is making itself, its presence felt, be detected and be known. CMBR cannot last for 13 billion years, but spacetime is here forever. Here is  Indisputable evidence of the presence of spacetime: no transmission of  signals radios, TVs, computers, , including satellites transmission,  etc.  and receptions of such signals   are possible without  the medium,  the  electro-magnetic  skein of spacetime. Note that the skein of spacetime has undivided positive and negative property but upon reception of those signals, positive and negative property separate and we have radios, TVs, computers etc. jsaldea12 roxas city. 3.7, 19

[evan_au]

CMBR cannot last for 13 billion years,

This is true - the expansion of the universe means that today's 2.7K-equivalent temperature of the CMBR would have been a higher temperature a billion years ago (and even higher a billion years before that...).

It is estimated that what we now see as CMBR had an actual temperature of about 3000K, about 400,000 years after the Big Bang. This occurred when hydrogen gas formed neutral atoms, becoming transparent. We can confirm this transition with measurements in the lab today..
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_microwave_background#Relationship_to_the_Big_Bang

Please show what laboratory measurements confirm this supposed "the  electro-magnetic  skein of spacetime", and show how it would be affected by the ongoing expansion of the universe.

In fact, please start by explaining what you think this "the  electro-magnetic  skein of spacetime" is, because it sounds like word salad...

[jsaldea12 (OP)]

Jsa Why that detected faint noise or glow the making of spacetime? Spacetime is the frame or skein of space that completely occupies all outer space and even interior space of atoms. It has inherent electro-magnetic property. It is the medium of gravitational force of the sun that locks with gravitational force of earth, and so on locking among galaxies, stars, planets..Spacetime is also the source of vrtal particles. Spacetime is also the medium of light, of radio signals, TVs, internet because all these signals are electro-magnetic. Spacetime is here for eternity. CMBR is not electro-magnetic, cannot last that long. ..3.12.19

[Colin2B]

CMBR is not electro-magnetic, cannot last that long. ..3.12.19

Can you clarify what you are saying. Are you really saying that microwaves are not electromagnetic?

[jeffreyH]

Please review the details of the electric and magnetic constants. If you don't understand them then feel free to ask.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/elefie.html

[Bored chemist]

Outer space  is totally  occupied  by elecro-magnetic skein of spacetime,

What do you think the word "skein" means?
Do you mean this
https://www.shinyhappyworld.com/2012/10/what-is-a-skein-demystifying-names-for-yarn-bundles.html
or this
https://neihtn.wordpress.com/2017/04/05/skein-of-geese/

And how do you think either applies to space-time?

[jeffreyH]

Ripping Yarns! So that's where the fabric of spacetime comes from. 

[jsaldea12 (OP)]

Jsa Please permit me to reiterate:Why that detected faint noise or glow the making of spacetime? Spacetime is the frame or skein of space that completely occupies all outer space and even interior space of atoms. It has inherent electro-magnetic property. It is the medium of gravitational force of the sun that locks with gravitational force of earth, and so on locking among galaxies, stars, planets.. Spacetime is the medium of light, of radio signals, TVs, internet because all these signals are electro-magnetic. Spacetime is here to stay,. CMBR  cannot last that long. ..3.12.19

By the way, this discovery of spacetime as the real source of that faint noise or glow at microwave level throughout all outer space is original by undersigned jsa roxas city. 3.12.19

[Colin2B]

By the way, this discovery of spacetime as the real source of that faint noise or glow at microwave level throughout all outer space is original by undersigned jsa roxas city. 3.12.19

So you are using this topic question to promote a personal new theory.

[Kryptid]

CMBR  cannot last that long.

Conservation of energy guarantees that it does.

[mad aetherist]

Was it CMBR or skein of spacetime that was detected.
In 1964, Penzias and Wilson detected  a persistent "noise of microwaves” that came from every direction in outer space, eventually,  that noise was identified  as Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation (CMBR) ?. But was it really CMBR. It could be there is another source, real source  of CMBR. Outer space is not completely nothing, Outer space  is totally  occupied  by elecro-magnetic skein of spacetime, of Dr. Einstein, even occupying the space of the  interior of atoms. Could it be that detected  “microwave noise”, called CMBR, is actually the recording, the making of the all-encompassing electro-magnetic skein/frame of spacetime that is making itself, its presence felt, be detected and be known. CMBR cannot last for 13 billion years, but spacetime is here forever. Here is  Indisputable evidence of the presence of spacetime: no transmission of  signals radios, TVs, computers, , including satellites transmission,  etc.  and receptions of such signals   are possible without  the medium,  the  electro-magnetic  skein of spacetime. Note that the skein of spacetime has undivided positive and negative property but upon reception of those signals, positive and negative property separate and we have radios, TVs, computers etc. jsaldea12 roxas city. 3.7, 19

I dont believe in a GR kind of spacetime.  But i dont think that the standard science mafia yet have any theory re spacetime causing em radiation or photons or particles (or viceversa)(except that particles they say cause the bending of spacetime)(but the bending of spacetime doesnt cause particles or anything else)(but the bending of spacetime they say does have energy & does have mass).

The CMBR temperature is i suppose made up of photons & em radiation & particles (stationary & moving throo).

I aint sure whether one should add gravity to that list. Praps we can, praps gravity (ie a gravity pulse or wave) affects photons & particles, ie in a temperature way.

Anyway what we have i think is a temperature of space, ie the temp at any point (ie a cosmic foreground temp)(ie CFT). This temp will of course be high if near stars etc.  But there must be places where u are as far as possible from stars, & here the temp of space will be at a cosmic minimum. 

So the question i think is what is the size of a typical cosmic minimum temp of space.  I am thinking say 0.1 K or less than that. 

And here i dont mean the CMB, the CMB is a different animal, it is a microwave temp, whereas my temp is a total temp, & microwaves are just a part of it. So your question has an error in it to begin with, u should be referring to the CBR not the CMBR. Unless u do reckon that microwaves have different rules re your skeins.

Re the 2.73 K number, for the CMBR, this is i think false, i reckon that the 2.73 K is mostly due to Earthshine, the real number is less than 0.1 K. 

But whatever it is, 0.1 K or up to 2.73 K, u reckon that gravity is to blame.  So u are saying that photons & em radiation contribute very little, or u are saying that photons & em radiation are a part of that there gravity. Either way i dont see the logic in any of that.

Why do u say skein of spacetime, what is wrong with the fabric of spacetime, are skein & fabric different?

And how come the Sun's skein & Earth's skein dont affect readings?

[jsaldea12 (OP)]

Jsa: I am just disclosing that the real source of that feeble, faint glow that can be detected in TVs that is on without any particular station, is most likely the making of the  frame of electro-magnetic, all encompassing  spacetime, and that CMBR is  recorded therein spacetime. 3.14.19.

[Bored chemist]

Re the 2.73 K number, for the CMBR, this is i think false, i reckon that the 2.73 K is mostly due to Earthshine, the real number is less than 0.1 K. 

Yes, you think that.
But the experimental evidence shows that you are wrong.

In particular, it can't be earthshine because they measure it in space.
We have already pointed this out, but you keep going on about it.