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New Theory: Why must c be an absolute "speed limit"?
« on: 21/02/2018 11:53:15 »
The speed of light is the ground state of the universe. This is not normal convention, however it is supported by the preponderance of the data.

For example, our universe shows a net conversion of matter to energy, and not energy to matter. Stars burn matter and give off energy. In terms of a chemical/physics reaction; the net universal conversion of matter to energy, is the direction of lowering potential. Since energy moves at C, C is the state of lower potential, and matter and inertial references are at higher potential.

This can also inferred from lab results which show that new matter/antimatter pairs can only be created at very high energy. Matter and inertial references are at higher potential and are created at the upper limits of energy. We cannot  make matter and anti-matter from low energy photons, to prove matter is at lower potential.

The speed of light is the same in all references, because all references use this same ground state, due to the laws of physics being the same in all references. All references show net matter to energy conversion due to the forces of nature. An analogy is, sea level is the same no matter at what elevation you begin; same ground state. The confusion is connected to the old convention of the earth being the center of the observational universe and therefore the ground state for observations. This is not technically correct but is a tradition.

Say you took matter and added energy in an attempt to move that piece of matter the speed of light. Since matter and inertial reference is at higher potential than energy, by adding energy to the matter for velocity; endothermic, we are increasing inertial potential energy, moving the matter even further away from the C ground state. A paradox appears, that we cannot reach C that way.

The way you would need to go is to convert the matter into energy. For example, we can react the matter object with an anti-matter double. The conversion to C reference, then requires only a finite energy equivalent.

Relative reference is useful but in this case, it makes it harder to answer a simple question. The earth is not the ground state but is actually in the hills relative to the C-level ground state.
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Re: New Theory: Why must c be an absolute "speed limit"?
« Reply #1 on: 22/02/2018 13:49:29 »
Quote from: jeffreyH on 21/02/2018 22:15:53
String theory isn't simple enough to be correct. Quantum mechanics is simple and self contained. As is special relativity. Once you start having to expand the complexity to try to make sense of a theory then you are obviously on the wrong course. The blindingly obvious is being missed somewhere.

Everyone gave it a try and speculated. However, the question has not been answered to everyone's satisfaction. Yet only my post was moved to alternate theory. Maybe I did not explain myself as well as possible.

Follow my premises and logic; The forces of nature act upon matter, with an output of energy. This is a basic observation. The energy, once contained in the matter, becomes the product of this forward reaction. This is also true.

In an exothermic reaction, the products are at lower potential than the reactants. This is true. 

If the products are at higher energy, this is called an endothermic reaction. For example, dark energy is adding potential energy to matter, at the level of gravitational potential and GR. Expansion of the universe is endothermic, with dark energy increasing inertial potential. The expanding space-time reference of the universe is at higher potential than contacted space-time reference. This due to the impact of adding dark energy to inertial references. If we could release the dark energy from the universe the universe would contract reference. Contracted reference, to the limit of lowest potential; no dark energy, is the speed of light reference; ground state.

If we started with the primordial atom point reference, and we theoretically added sufficient dark energy, we could increase the gravitational potential of the matter. Moving away from the point reference of the speed of light reference;  requires adding dark energy; endothermic. The speed of light reference is the ground state.

If we start with energy, such as radio waves, matter and antimatter will not appear. We need to crank the energy up to extreme photon potentials, before matter and antimatter will appear. Energy strength has to climb up an energy well, with matter forming at the top of the energy well. The speed of light is ground state of the universe, since this reference is at the bottom of the well that forms matter and antimatter. We need to add dark energy to cause departure from this reference and form expanded references like the earth;s surface where humans live.

I did not kick a puppy or say any taboo neurotic PC word. My analysis is consistent with accepted premises of science. I only rearranged them to answer the question.  Why censor? 

This topic, without knowing it, addresses what is called a foundation premise of physics. Like in a large building, the foundation, although often hidden from view, supports all the weight of the building above it. This unanswered question is connected to the conceptual foundation of physics. The lack of an answer means one column is supported by faith. Not many people are interesting in working the basement. Most prefer to be finished carpenters and decorators, since this is flashier. However, if the foundation is cracked or ethereal, we all run the risk of a future failure that can cause cracks to appear in the veneer, or even take down the building.

The remedy would be to replace the fractured support column; speed of light reference is the ground state. The problem with this type of rehab, is this complicated rehab will more than likely cause stress cracks in the fancy veneer, when you jack up the building to take out the old and replace the new column. This means others things will also need to be rehabbed, after the support column is replaced. This secondary rehab can get very complicated, fast, since we are dealing with a lot of weight and cracks in the framing may also appear, that need to be addressed, before you can fix the walls and trim veneer. Also, who in the loop is qualified to replace a main support column. Nobody wants to go there. it is better to ignore this and not even address the problem.

The alternative strategy is to build a pilot building; replica, nearby, and run replacement strategy simulations, to see what cracks under the strain of each strategy. Or we can build a replacement building with the new foundation; speed of light is the ground state, and leave the other building in place. When the new building is done, then we move.

I originally used the pilot test approach, but the social reaction was not always rational.  Everyone thought I was being contrary and combative, instead of trying to address the foundation problem and simulate the problems of a rehab. I used to be a target for crying wolf in simulations.

Years later I decided to build a new structure from the bottom up. This is less threatening. It does not attack the problem; if the old is not broken, don't fix it. Maybe I need show how it is broken, but I run the risk of  censor due to misunderstanding. Rehab can be messy and homeowners do not like the dust and mess, until after it is done, and the construction debris is cleaned.
 
 
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Re: New Theory: Why must c be an absolute "speed limit"?
« Reply #2 on: 22/02/2018 16:51:59 »
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Re: New Theory: Why must c be an absolute "speed limit"?
« Reply #3 on: 22/02/2018 18:25:29 »
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